The Kola Study - An Own Goal by Team Holocaust

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Nessie wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 12:17 pm Witnesses from outside the camps reported months of burning and a stench. Aerial photos from 1943, show large areas of disturbed ground.
Not Marian Olszuk, the only photo of Treblinka was by the stationmaster after the revolt. Produce the aerial pics please. As Treblinka was bombed by the Russians one should expect disturbed ground.
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Nazgul wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:37 am
Nessie wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 12:17 pm Witnesses from outside the camps reported months of burning and a stench. Aerial photos from 1943, show large areas of disturbed ground.
Not Marian Olszuk,
http://www.whale.to/b/treblinka2.html

"Now and then, he related, a ghastly stench emanated from the camp."
the only photo of Treblinka was by the stationmaster after the revolt. Produce the aerial pics please. As Treblinka was bombed by the Russians one should expect disturbed ground.
Typo on my part, the aerial photo, that you know about, is from 1944, before the Soviets arrived.

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Nessie wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:08 pm "Now and then, he related, a ghastly stench emanated from the camp."
Could be latrines. Perhaps the inmates eat too many beans.

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The disturbed area is in fact the reception area, a small graveyard and a site of execution.
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Nazgul wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:24 pm
Nessie wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:08 pm "Now and then, he related, a ghastly stench emanated from the camp."
Could be latrines. Perhaps the inmates eat too many beans.

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The disturbed area is in fact the reception area, a small graveyard and a site of execution.
That was good, now the guy is a corpse burning sniffer? :)
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bombsaway wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:23 am Corpses liquifying also mean less space is wasted.
"liquifying corpses"!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Does that happen before or after they magically disappear?
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Archie wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:31 am Grave 11 consists of only ONE positive borehole which Kola extrapolated to a 9x5x1.9 grave (80 cu meters). Implicitly, we are being asked to assume this grave once had over 1,600 bodies in it.
Let's discuss this alleged " ONE positive borehole."

I tried before, but my post got put down the memory hole:

viewtopic.php?p=16820#p16820

What is it about this alleged "huge mass grave" that nobody wants to discuss it?
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Nessie wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:30 am
Callafangers wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:58 pm ...

Thus, the ground disturbances identified align far more with the revisionist interpretation.
How many people are buried at Belzec?

You can answer with a range.
You can also answer by giving the number allegedly buried in each one of the 33 alleged "huge mass graves."

Fill in the blanks Nessie:

1 - ?, 2 - ?, 3 - ?, 4 - ?, 5 - ?, 6 - ?, 7 - ?, 8 - ?, 9 -?, 10 - ?, 11 - ?, 12 - ?, 13 - ?, 14 - ?, 15 - ?, 16 - ?, 17 - ?, 18 - ?, 19 - ?, 20 - ?, 21 - ?, 22 - ?, 23 - ?, 24 - ?, 25 - ?, 26 -?, 27 - ?, 28 - ?, 29 - ?, 30 - ?, 31 - ?, 32 - ?, 33 - ?
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Keen wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 1:14 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:30 am
Callafangers wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:58 pm ...

Thus, the ground disturbances identified align far more with the revisionist interpretation.
How many people are buried at Belzec?

You can answer with a range.
You can also answer by giving the number allegedly buried in each one of the 33 alleged "huge mass graves."

Fill in the blanks Nessie:

1 - ?, 2 - ?, 3 - ?, 4 - ?, 5 - ?, 6 - ?, 7 - ?, 8 - ?, 9 -?, 10 - ?, 11 - ?, 12 - ?, 13 - ?, 14 - ?, 15 - ?, 16 - ?, 17 - ?, 18 - ?, 19 - ?, 20 - ?, 21 - ?, 22 - ?, 23 - ?, 24 - ?, 25 - ?, 26 -?, 27 - ?, 28 - ?, 29 - ?, 30 - ?, 31 - ?, 32 - ?, 33 - ?
Your refusal to answer my questions, is one of the reasons why I refuse to answer yours.
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Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 6:33 am
Keen wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 1:14 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:30 am

How many people are buried at Belzec?

You can answer with a range.
You can also answer by giving the number allegedly buried in each one of the 33 alleged "huge mass graves."

Fill in the blanks Nessie:

1 - ?, 2 - ?, 3 - ?, 4 - ?, 5 - ?, 6 - ?, 7 - ?, 8 - ?, 9 -?, 10 - ?, 11 - ?, 12 - ?, 13 - ?, 14 - ?, 15 - ?, 16 - ?, 17 - ?, 18 - ?, 19 - ?, 20 - ?, 21 - ?, 22 - ?, 23 - ?, 24 - ?, 25 - ?, 26 -?, 27 - ?, 28 - ?, 29 - ?, 30 - ?, 31 - ?, 32 - ?, 33 - ?
Your refusal to answer my questions, is one of the reasons why I refuse to answer yours.
And the other reasons are that you are a lying, cowardly cornered rat.

How about just "grave" #11 Nessie?

Tell us how many jews are buried in it.
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bombsaway wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:52 am Kola found about 30 mass graves.
About?

:lol:
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Archie wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:57 pm There has been no detailed discussion of this point. Bombs thinks that because the ash was in "layers" (as opposed to what?) that this proves 434K (his preferred figure) were executed at the camp.
You've hit on a very important point here Archie, and that is Kola's use of the word "layers."

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What exactly does he mean when he uses the phrase: "a small layer"?

Most people think that the word layer means something like this:

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And here is another alleged description of alleged Belzec "grave" #11:
Grave No. 11. A smaller grave than any hitherto discovered (with the exception of grave No.2), measures 11 m. x 9 m., located immediately adjaccnt to the NE comer of the monument/mausoleum. A few fragments of burnt human bones mixed with innumerable small pieces of carbobized wood were found at a depth of only 1.90 m.
https://tomashov.org.il/wp-content/uplo ... 997-98.pdf
Notice the discrepancy between the two alleged descriptions of alleged "grave" #11.

And this is what Haimi calls a "layer:"

viewtopic.php?p=8463#p8463
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curioussoul wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:12 am Much of the asserted grave volume is simply conjectural.
Actually curioussoul, ALL of the asserted grave volume is conjectural, because no graves, mass or otherwise, have ever been proven to exist at Belzec.
curioussoul wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:12 am In addition, there is a very logical explanation for the presence of mass graves
Your "very logical explanation for the presence of mass graves" is nothing but conjecture.

The holocaust by train theory lacks the same thing that the holocaust by gassing does - ZERO physical evidence.

There is very little difference between the holocaust light crowd who espouse the holocausat by train theory and the reality deniers.

Both HAVE to accept the nonsensical utter fraud of Kola - as it allows them to thoughtlessly cling to their unsubstantiated theories.
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curioussoul wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:17 am
bombsaway wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:03 pmNeedless to say there hasn't been a response to most of my arguments, and it's now been 4 days since I raised my point about the ash layers, which has gone unanswered except for Nazgul who said they and the graves were the result of "bombing". This thread is about the "own goal" of the Kola study, yet there has been a refusal to actually grapple with what's in the study. My position is it is incompatible with revisionism, but compatible with orthodoxy. Once you start engaging with the actual study, and answering the kind of questions you have posed (how could this be? essentially) and I have answered, I think you'll see this to be the case.
Nonsense. There would have been tens of thousands of dead bodies...
Well curioussoul, those who espouse the holocaust by train theory [the holocaust light crowd] allege tens of thousands of dead bodies also.
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