Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:40 pm
Another one is this thread is 'it was the population of jews in Poland'.
Fact check; it wasn't.
No it was the rough population of Jews in Eastern Europe, where they faced the most persecution. 5 or 6 million, which is why you see 5 just as often.
Just throw a dart and then paint a fucking target...
That's so chickenshit and ridiculous...
the 6,000,000 is reasonable as an estimate because if you add all of these jews together,
you can get the number, assuming you don't add too many of them and you ignore cohorts of jews that push the number too high.
If you count 6,000,000 jews than it's totally reasonable to estimate 6,000,000 died...
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:40 pm
Another one is this thread is 'it was the population of jews in Poland'.
Fact check; it wasn't.
No it was the rough population of Jews in Eastern Europe, where they faced the most persecution. 5 or 6 million, which is why you see 5 just as often.
Just throw a dart and then paint a fucking target...
That's so chickenshit and ridiculous...
the 6,000,000 is reasonable as an estimate because if you add all of these jews together,
you can get the number, assuming you don't add too many of them and you ignore cohorts of jews that push the number too high.
If you count 6,000,000 jews than it's totally reasonable to estimate 6,000,000 died...
Most of those articles state that those Jews were gathered in the east, so they identify that geographic area already.
No it was the rough population of Jews in Eastern Europe, where they faced the most persecution. 5 or 6 million, which is why you see 5 just as often.
Just throw a dart and then paint a fucking target...
That's so chickenshit and ridiculous...
the 6,000,000 is reasonable as an estimate because if you add all of these jews together,
you can get the number, assuming you don't add too many of them and you ignore cohorts of jews that push the number too high.
If you count 6,000,000 jews than it's totally reasonable to estimate 6,000,000 died...
Most of those articles state that those Jews were gathered in the east, so they identify that geographic area already.
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:03 am
Mr Check, this is an ernest question, why do you find the 'in excess of 5,000,000' tallies credible? I don't personally trust the extrapolations because I feel the base data is flawed and I don't feel that anyone has properly accounted for emigration and evacuation by the Soviet. I favor Sanning of course, but, I'm open to correction here. Perhaps we can hash this out, if you have the time.
TL;DR
Where do you get your numbers for Soviet evacuation of jews and what are some good sources for looking into this particular facet of ww2? Where do you get your primary datasets? What method is used to account for emigration?
For posterity;
While originally directed at SanityCheck, I'll ask you, where do you get these numbers? What orifice from which do you pull your numbers Bombsaway?
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
While originally directed at SanityCheck, I'll ask you, where do you get these numbers? What orifice from which do you pull your numbers Bombsaway?
You are as daft as a brick , literally every source will confirm these numbers, and I've told you about the pale of settlement before.
The Pale covered an area of about 386,100 sq. mi. from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. According to the census of 1897, 4,899,300 Jews lived there, forming 94% of the total Jewish population of Russia and c. 11.6% of the general population of this area.
While originally directed at SanityCheck, I'll ask you, where do you get these numbers? What orifice from which do you pull your numbers Bombsaway?
You are as daft as a brick , literally every source will confirm these numbers, and I've told you about the pale of settlement before.
The Pale covered an area of about 386,100 sq. mi. from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. According to the census of 1897, 4,899,300 Jews lived there, forming 94% of the total Jewish population of Russia and c. 11.6% of the general population of this area.
While originally directed at SanityCheck, I'll ask you, where do you get these numbers? What orifice from which do you pull your numbers Bombsaway?
You are as daft as a brick , literally every source will confirm these numbers, and I've told you about the pale of settlement before.
The Pale covered an area of about 386,100 sq. mi. from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. According to the census of 1897, 4,899,300 Jews lived there, forming 94% of the total Jewish population of Russia and c. 11.6% of the general population of this area.
After going over The Korherr Report a half a dozen times, looking at it from a myriad of different ways and pondering the document, I'm left puzzled Bombsaway.
1) how does this document not align with Sanning
2) how do you get a death toll in excess of 5,000,000 with this report as a springboard?
I've got to admit, I've been puzzling over the adoption of this 'orphan' document by exterminationists on this board for a while.
I suppose I should put those questions in another thread however, as this seems to be drifting from the topic.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
Korherr: 1 449 692 transported into the "Russian east" from the GG and Warthegau, with hundreds of thousands remaining in Poland.
Sanning doesn't even mention Korherr in his book which means he either is a charlatan, deluded himself into thinking it wasn't even worth a mention, or is historically illiterate.
One mistake among many, though this is alone is so blatant it should permanently discredit him as a serious scholar IMO.
Just throw a dart and then paint a fucking target...
That's so chickenshit and ridiculous...
....
The 5-6 million, or approximately 6 million death toll, depending on the source, is within the overall population of Jews who fell under Nazi control, were arrested and sent to camps and ghettos. So, yes, throw a dart within the overall arrested population and draw a target around what the death toll was.
Holocaust so-called revisionists are the most obsessive about the 6 million figure, as they look to support their conspiratorial beliefs.
Archie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:36 pm
I am just realizing that your Arlen, Texas location is a reference to your Hank Hill character. I'm slow. Ha.
The above is a clash between the Holocaust mainstream and online anti-revisionists. There are a lot of these! In the Holocaust mainstream, they use the six million and quote all the silliest stories without any shame whatsoever. They don't care if it makes sense because they know they will never be challenged on any of it (except by revisionists who are marginalized). But since anti-revisionists do engage with us, what you see is that they don't want to defend the six million so you end up with these mildly revisionist hot takes.
Absolutely - I remember Mike Enoch Peinovich having this out with Matt Cockerill - Peinovich makes the very credible point that, the Holocaust is six million gassed to most people. Cockeril had previously gotten flustered about the technicalities with a different interlocutor (not Peinovich) and ended the discussion over it. What was obvious is that Cockerill had very little patience or tolerance for the idea of 99% of people getting basic "facts" about the Holocaust wrong. Peinovich of course was more clever, and knew exactly to pounce on this idea of nobody having a clue about what the hell even supposedly happened at the basic level.
Peinovich also makes the very astute remark that any "debate" between a Revisionist and Holocaust-Affirmer usually takes the form of the Revisionist having to teach the Affirmer what they themselves are supposed to be believing.
