Convergance of evidence.

[Nessie]

... There is not one bit of evidence presented to prove a single gassed Jew...

That is a lie.

Please present the evidence to show it is mistaken. BTW using words like lies, liars is disrespectful, off topic. On a positive note thanks for not returning to RODOH.

You know fine well that there is evidence of mass gassings, from eyewitnesses, documents etc. When you claim no evidence has been presented for gassings, knowing that evidence has been presented, that is the very definition of a lie.

[Keen]

The convergence of evidence is about working out what happened

Same with the convergence of the lack of physical evidence method, which proves that there are no "huge mass graves" at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor or Treblinka II.

[Keen]

A newspaper headline has to be the weakest form of evidence out there.

Nessie, you keep asserting that some evidence is stronger / weaker than others. You have even stated that "There is indeed a hierarchy of evidence." You have repeatedly been asked to tell us what this hierarchy is. A separate thread has even been started that would allow you to present your hierarchy of evidence to this forum:

viewtopic.php?t=323

Yet you steadfastly refuse to do so.

What are you waiting for Nessie?

What are you so afraid of?

[Keen]

This whole mass of evidence taken together is supposed to prove that there were gas chambers. No, it doesn’t.

Nessie:

Yes it does.

No it doesn't Nessie.

Everyone knows that the convergence of the lack of physical evidence method proves that there are no "huge mass graves" at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor or Treblinka II.

And everyone knows that:

No "huge mass graves" at these sites = No gas chambers at these sites.

Even you know that, don't you Nessie?

[Keen]

Brilliant, so you do know about and use the convergence of evidence.

Actually Nessie, I know about and use the convergence of the lack of physical evidence method.

Nessie:

The convergence of corroborating evidence proves gassings took place

Not so Nessie. Since the convergence of the lack of physical evidence method proves that no "huge mass graves" exist at B, C, P, S & T II, your sophistic convergence of evidence method fails to prove mass gassings.

No mass graves = no mass gassings.

Simple as that Nessie.

BTW Nessie, your sophistic convergence of evidence method fails to prove mass shootings at B, C, P, S & T II as well.

No mass graves = no mass shootings.

Simple as that Nessie.

[Keen]

It's silly to say the combined physical evidence paints a clear picture of no Holocaust.

What happened at Chelmno? https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... elmno.html

multiple graves hundreds of meters long in a remote forest area, full crushed bones, ash, and chemical products

Really bombsaway? Multiple graves hundreds of meters long and full of crushed bones and ash?

A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 21 alleged graves / cremation pits of Chelmno that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain, or to have been collected from, the remains of - at least 2 people.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

Maps of Chelmno can be found here:

https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=229 ... count=2841

Bombsaway:

M - Can you conclusively prove that archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually located / proven the existence of mass graves at Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

If your answer is - Yes., then:

2 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

7 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

12 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

17 - Of the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

[Keen]

You guys would love to have convergence of evidence

We do bombsaway, but it is more accurately called the convergence of the lack of physical evidence, which proves that no "huge mass graves" exist at Chelmno.

And, as everyone knows, no mass graves = no mass murder.

[bombsaway]

It's silly to say the combined physical evidence paints a clear picture of no Holocaust.

What happened at Chelmno? https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... elmno.html

multiple graves hundreds of meters long in a remote forest area, full crushed bones, ash, and chemical products

Really bombsaway? Multiple graves hundreds of meters long and full of crushed bones and ash?

A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 21 alleged graves / cremation pits of Chelmno that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain, or to have been collected from, the remains of - at least 2 people.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

Maps of Chelmno can be found here:

https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=229 ... count=2841

Bombsaway:

M - Can you conclusively prove that archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually located / proven the existence of mass graves at Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

If your answer is - Yes., then:

2 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

7 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

12 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

17 - Of the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

Your questions are ridiculous frankly. Do you believe that the archeologists are lying or incompetent? Y or no ?

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... o.html?m=1

Eg

The total length of these pits equals 161 m. The stretch is made up of 11 pits, each located about 2-3 m from another. The dimensions of the pits vary from 9x7.5 m to 15.50x8.50 m. They are filled with gray soil with a significant mixture of burn waste and crushed human bones.

[Stubble]

Thread on the Kola study;

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=107

[Keen]

It's silly to say the combined physical evidence paints a clear picture of no Holocaust.

What happened at Chelmno? https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... elmno.html

multiple graves hundreds of meters long in a remote forest area, full crushed bones, ash, and chemical products

Really bombsaway? Multiple graves hundreds of meters long and full of crushed bones and ash?

A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 21 alleged graves / cremation pits of Chelmno that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain, or to have been collected from, the remains of - at least 2 people.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

Maps of Chelmno can be found here:

https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=229 ... count=2841

Bombsaway:

M - Can you conclusively prove that archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually located / proven the existence of mass graves at Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

If your answer is - Yes., then:

2 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

7 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

12 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

17 - Of the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

Your questions are ridiculous frankly. Do you believe that the archeologists are lying or incompetent? Y or no ?

https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot ... o.html?m=1

Eg

The total length of these pits equals 161 m. The stretch is made up of 11 pits, each located about 2-3 m from another. The dimensions of the pits vary from 9x7.5 m to 15.50x8.50 m. They are filled with gray soil with a significant mixture of burn waste and crushed human bones.

Craven dodge noted BA.

And the following fact:

It is alleged in orthodox historiography that, during WW II, hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of corpses were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the one hundred graves / cremation pits that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these sites, in which verified human remains have been tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY FIVE PEOPLE.

Continues to be avoided by the craven, lying exterminationists.

[Keen]

The total length of these pits equals 161 m. The stretch is made up of 11 pits, each located about 2-3 m from another. The dimensions of the pits vary from 9x7.5 m to 15.50x8.50 m. They are filled with gray soil with a significant mixture of burn waste and crushed human bones.

I don't see a huge mass grave with the remains of more than 5 people in it. If there were a huge mass grave with the remains of more than 5 people in it, the jews would be rubbing my nose in it and collecting the offered reward money for doing so. ( http://thisisaboutscience.com/ ) Therefore, I am 100% certain that there are no huge mass graves with the remains of more than 5 people in them.

[bombsaway]

Craven dodge noted BA.

Nice dude, I also asked you a yes no question which you dodged. Big ups.

Your questions are ridiculous frankly. Do you believe that the archeologists are lying or incompetent? Y or no ?

[Keen]

Nice dude, I also asked you a yes no question which you dodged. Big ups.

Do you believe that the archeologists are lying or incompetent? Y or no ?

It depends on how you answer the questions I asked you.

A reminder here of what BA is dodging:

What happened at Chelmno? Multiple graves hundreds of meters long in a remote forest area, full of crushed bones, ash... The total length of these pits equals 161 m. The stretch is made up of 11 pits, each located about 2-3 m from another. The dimensions of the pits vary from 9x7.5 m to 15.50x8.50 m.

There are actually 21 alleged "huge mass graves" at Chelmno. So Bombsaway:

M - Can you conclusively prove that archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually located / proven the existence of mass graves at Chelmno - Yes. - or - No. - ??

If your answer is - Yes., then:

2 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

7 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

12 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

17 - Of the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

[bombsaway]

Nice dude, I also asked you a yes no question which you dodged. Big ups.

Do you believe that the archeologists are lying or incompetent? Y or no ?

It depends on how you answer the questions I asked you.

No just give me the answer, or you're dodging just like me. Your answer shouldn't be contingent on what I say, you have your own independent opinions I presume.

[Keen]

you're dodging just like me.

No I'm not. You're the only one dodging.

Your answer shouldn't be contingent on what I say

But it is.

BA, do you deny alleging this:

What happened at Chelmno? Multiple graves hundreds of meters long in a remote forest area, full of crushed bones, ash... The total length of these pits equals 161 m. The stretch is made up of 11 pits, each located about 2-3 m from another. The dimensions of the pits vary from 9x7.5 m to 15.50x8.50 m.