Convergance of evidence.

[Nazgul]

That has happened because none of the revisionists have any relevant experience invstigating history, or criminality and they do not really know what they are doing. The result is not revisionism, it is denial. They deny mass gassings took place and then fail to follow on to an evidenced, logical conclusion.

Some here are real criminal investigators, your assumptions are without foundation, wishful thinking.
What does anything in this post speak of "convergence of evidence"? This is just another derail.

[Nessie]

That has happened because none of the revisionists have any relevant experience invstigating history, or criminality and they do not really know what they are doing. The result is not revisionism, it is denial. They deny mass gassings took place and then fail to follow on to an evidenced, logical conclusion.

Some here are real criminal investigators, your assumptions are without foundation, wishful thinking.
What does anything in this post speak of "convergence of evidence"? This is just another derail.

This thread proves so-called revisionists fail to revise history and when they try they fall apart.

[Nazgul]

This thread proves so-called revisionists fail to revise history and when they try they fall apart.

Why laugh at yourself? You only have opinions, valid perhaps only for yourself. Many are interested in the real story not the ramblings of some Highlander who loves the "uisce beatha", or water of life. There is a saying in Polynesia “Kāore te kumara e kōrero mō tōna ake reka”. As hard as it is try and be a little humble, your flaws to educated stick out like bulls testicles. Can you add something to some topic without the same nonsense given to everyone for over 10 years now.

[Nessie]

This thread proves so-called revisionists fail to revise history and when they try they fall apart.

Why laugh at yourself? You only have opinions, valid perhaps only for yourself. Many are interested in the real story not the ramblings of some Highlander who loves the "uisce beatha", or water of life. There is a saying in Polynesia “Kāore te kumara e kōrero mō tōna ake reka”. As hard as it is try and be a little humble, your flaws to educated stick out like bulls testicles. Can you add something to some topic without the same nonsense given to everyone for over 10 years now.

Historians and those tasked with criminal investigations, have gathered evidence and reached a consensus on what happened at the AR camps, Chelmno and A-B Kremas. That consensus is due to the chronological convergence of corroborating evidence. Those places were used to mass murder people inside gas chambers, and the burial/cremation of remains. They were then subject to a criminal destruction of evidence.

So-called revisionists, who, if they were genuine investigators, would also gather evidence to produce an evidenced history of events in those places, that concludes with a full chronology of what happened. But, they cannot do that. They fail at their basic task. Instead of being revisionists, they are deniers, who cannot even manage to evidence the massive conspiracy they allege.

Does it not bother you that your AR camps were customs posts theory, has not just little to no support amongst fellow revisionists, but many completely disagree with you? You don't even stick to that theory, as you often switch to claiming people did not even arrive at the AR camps and instead they were dropped off en route. Then you claim TII was located nowhere near where near the camp that is normally identified as TII, on the spur line to the TI labour camp and quarry. You cannot even get your story straight!

There is zero convergence of evidence amongst revisionists. No chronology, no agreement, nothing. A total and abject failure on their part. I see how you cannot face your failure, as you post stupid comments and go far more off topic than I ever do. Please don't bother to post, unless you which to admit to your mistake, or you think you can rationally explain why revisionists are somehow exempt from revising history.

[Nazgul]

Does it not bother you that your AR camps were customs posts theory, has not just little to no support amongst fellow revisionists, but many completely disagree with you? You don't even stick to that theory, as you often switch to claiming people did not even arrive at the AR camps and instead they were dropped off en route. Then you claim TII was located nowhere near where near the camp that is normally identified as TII, on the spur line to the TI labour camp and quarry. You cannot even get your story straight!

Every alleged AR camp were once border camps prior to the Russian invasion. There is an image of a Zollgrenzshutz officer at Sobibor. Perhaps that is indication some haftling were srutinized before going over the border. Reminder of the toll officer sitting down.


The apparent fact is that the story you continue to spray is based on atrocity propaganda. Legal people have tried to fit square pegs into round holes. We try and seek the real story. All camps had multiple functions, some of which have come to light. Instead of trying to understand those functions you promulgate a fiction.

[SanityCheck]

On the contrary, a 'preplanned' operation can well result in ad hoc improvisations when it is implemented. Military task forces are quite typical...

I appreciate you taking the time to pen your response Mr Check. You raise some valid points.

I could counter the first point by referring to the supposed nature and criticality of the operation lending it to a specialized nature requiring a preplanned operation rather than an ad hoc one. That's ultimately conjectural however.

With the rhetoric, I don't interpret it as genocidal. This is part of the crux of our disagreement on this particular facet of this event.

With the 'meeting of the minds' bit...I will look for the source for the 'some form of telepathy' statement. I believe that one too comes from your side of the fence. I'll try to nail it down. I really do need to collate and index my stuff with some sort of system. Currently it is all just crammed on to micro sd cards rather haphazardly. A couple of years ago I began to archive literally everything as I watched TPTB go after lbry and everything else. They are still cracking down, but, they haven't wiped the entire internet yet...

If I have made an error or am under a misconception regarding the 'telepathy' 'meeting of the minds' bit, I apologize. It was my understanding that in the absence of any order, this was the mainline view.

'Genocide by telepathy' was Robert Faurisson's spin on Hilberg's remark about 'incredible meeting of minds' at the Wannsee conference.

[Nazgul]

'Genocide by telepathy' was Robert Faurisson's spin on Hilberg's remark about 'incredible meeting of minds' at the Wannsee conference.

Hilberg who, in a speech reportedly made in 1983 is quoted as saying, “What began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint… Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus — mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy.”
It seems your consensus that a military body the SS and others just did administration by a "meeting of minds". National Socialist Germany was not the wild west nor the Highlands of Scotland.

[Nessie]

Does it not bother you that your AR camps were customs posts theory, has not just little to no support amongst fellow revisionists, but many completely disagree with you? You don't even stick to that theory, as you often switch to claiming people did not even arrive at the AR camps and instead they were dropped off en route. Then you claim TII was located nowhere near where near the camp that is normally identified as TII, on the spur line to the TI labour camp and quarry. You cannot even get your story straight!

Every alleged AR camp were once border camps prior to the Russian invasion. There is an image of a Zollgrenzshutz officer at Sobibor. Perhaps that is indication some haftling were srutinized before going over the border. Reminder of the toll officer sitting down.


The apparent fact is that the story you continue to spray is based on atrocity propaganda. Legal people have tried to fit square pegs into round holes. We try and seek the real story. All camps had multiple functions, some of which have come to light. Instead of trying to understand those functions you promulgate a fiction.

You dodged my question. Does it not bother you that your claim has little to no support from your fellow revisionists and they have their own theories that contradict yours? Does it not bother you that you do not even stick to your theory?