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Stubble wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:56 am This are a bit large for impact deformation from artillery or bombing.
It was a range with shells and bombs falling in existing craters over an extended period of time. I do not think you have knowledge of explosives or the power of them, they are not fire crackers.
Below is an example of a WWII impact crater from a bomb.
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Nazgul wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:42 am
Stubble wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:56 am This are a bit large for impact deformation from artillery or bombing.
It was a range with shells and bombs falling in existing craters over an extended period of time. I do not think you have knowledge of explosives or the power of them, they are not fire crackers.
Below is an example of a WWII impact crater from a bomb.
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That was a big ole boy.

That a British 'grand slam'?

For the record, I've got a little experience with go bangs.

WW-1 crater. My bad. I knew that puppy was big.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochnagar_mine

That one is about 3x the size of a grand slam crater.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:44 am
Nazgul wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:42 am
Stubble wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:56 am This are a bit large for impact deformation from artillery or bombing.
It was a range with shells and bombs falling in existing craters over an extended period of time. I do not think you have knowledge of explosives or the power of them, they are not fire crackers.
Below is an example of a WWII impact crater from a bomb.
Image
That was a big ole boy.

That a British 'grand slam'?

For the record, I've got a little experience with go bangs.

WW-1 crater. My bad. I knew that puppy was big.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochnagar_mine

That one is about 3x the size of a grand slam crater.
That was caused by tunneling under trenches and blowing them up. Nazgul cannot produce a single example of an explosion producing a rectangular shape, as found at TII.
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Nessie wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:00 pm
Stubble wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:44 am
Nazgul wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:42 am
It was a range with shells and bombs falling in existing craters over an extended period of time. I do not think you have knowledge of explosives or the power of them, they are not fire crackers.
Below is an example of a WWII impact crater from a bomb.
Image
That was a big ole boy.

That a British 'grand slam'?

For the record, I've got a little experience with go bangs.

WW-1 crater. My bad. I knew that puppy was big.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochnagar_mine

That one is about 3x the size of a grand slam crater.
That was caused by tunneling under trenches and blowing them up. Nazgul cannot produce a single example of an explosion producing a rectangular shape, as found at TII.
The square holes at treblinka were dug by Mrs Colls.

Look at the lidar. What are assumed to be burial pits are round.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Nessie wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:00 pm That was caused by tunneling under trenches and blowing them up. Nazgul cannot produce a single example of an explosion producing a rectangular shape, as found at TII.
As the area was pounded by explosives any lidar scans are of little value except to find bomb craters. The area is totally contaminated, deliberately it seems. Contaminated by the Soviets; what a coincidence.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:19 pm
HansHill wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:44 am Image

???
What do you find confusing about that? Lukaszkiewicz interviewed escaped prisoners, who told him that the mass graves and been exhumed, corpses cremated and the cremains mixed back into the ground, that was then planted over. His examination found no mass graves and instead, large areas of cremated and larger human remains, so corroborating the witnesses.
I don't know if you are misunderstanding, or intentionally obfuscating.

Łukaszkiewicz conducted his excavations where the witnesses said there were mass graves. Your attempts to assert his coming up emtpy-handed as a victory for Holocaust Exterminationists is dishonest if not outright laughable.

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HansHill wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 11:20 am
Nessie wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:19 pm
HansHill wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:44 am Image

???
What do you find confusing about that? Lukaszkiewicz interviewed escaped prisoners, who told him that the mass graves and been exhumed, corpses cremated and the cremains mixed back into the ground, that was then planted over. His examination found no mass graves and instead, large areas of cremated and larger human remains, so corroborating the witnesses.
I don't know if you are misunderstanding, or intentionally obfuscating.

Łukaszkiewicz conducted his excavations where the witnesses said there were mass graves. Your attempts to assert his coming up emtpy-handed as a victory for Holocaust Exterminationists is dishonest if not outright laughable.

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He did not come up empty-handed. He found a huge area of disturbed ground containing cremated remains, which is consistent with the witnesses he interviewed and claimed the mass graves had been exhumed and corpses cremated. He reported that he did not find mass graves of corpses, he found what the witnesses said was there.
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The witnesses did not count how many bodies were buried or how many were cremated, much less did they find human ashes in the alleged number of dead. So the Höfle Telegram is the only thing they rely on, and this is interpreted as the names of fields and extrapolating that everyone died. Football stadiums only register the arrival of people with their tickets in hand and not their departures, so everyone died in the stadiums.
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Nessie wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:27 pm
He did not come up empty-handed. He found a huge area of disturbed ground containing cremated remains, which is consistent with the witnesses he interviewed and claimed the mass graves had been exhumed and corpses cremated. He reported that he did not find mass graves of corpses, he found what the witnesses said was there.
>Search for gas chambers
>Not found

>Search for mass graves
>Not found

This is textbook "coming up empty-handed".
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TlsMS93 wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:05 pm The witnesses did not count how many bodies were buried or how many were cremated, much less did they find human ashes in the alleged number of dead. So the Höfle Telegram is the only thing they rely on, and this is interpreted as the names of fields and extrapolating that everyone died.
The death tolls were estimated from transport records, prior to the finding of the Hofle telegram.
Football stadiums only register the arrival of people with their tickets in hand and not their departures, so everyone died in the stadiums.
Football stadiums can evidence the crowd leaving. Revisionists cannot do that with TII.
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HansHill wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:25 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:27 pm
He did not come up empty-handed. He found a huge area of disturbed ground containing cremated remains, which is consistent with the witnesses he interviewed and claimed the mass graves had been exhumed and corpses cremated. He reported that he did not find mass graves of corpses, he found what the witnesses said was there.
>Search for gas chambers
>Not found
Found in 2010.
>Search for mass graves
>Not found

This is textbook "coming up empty-handed".
They were not searching for mass graves in 1945, because the witnesses told them that the graves had been exhumed and cremated remains mixed back into the ground. That is what they found. Advancements in geophysics meant that in 2010, some of the mass graves around the memorial could be mapped out.
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Nessie wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:41 pm
HansHill wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:25 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:27 pm
He did not come up empty-handed. He found a huge area of disturbed ground containing cremated remains, which is consistent with the witnesses he interviewed and claimed the mass graves had been exhumed and corpses cremated. He reported that he did not find mass graves of corpses, he found what the witnesses said was there.
>Search for gas chambers
>Not found
Found in 2010.
>Search for mass graves
>Not found

This is textbook "coming up empty-handed".
They were not searching for mass graves in 1945, because the witnesses told them that the graves had been exhumed and cremated remains mixed back into the ground. That is what they found. Advancements in geophysics meant that in 2010, some of the mass graves around the memorial could be mapped out.
Spit out that biscuit.

A tile is not a gas chamber.

Also, where on that patch of dirt do you bury 2x the population of liverpool?
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Nessie wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:39 pm
TlsMS93 wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:05 pm The witnesses did not count how many bodies were buried or how many were cremated, much less did they find human ashes in the alleged number of dead. So the Höfle Telegram is the only thing they rely on, and this is interpreted as the names of fields and extrapolating that everyone died.
The death tolls were estimated from transport records, prior to the finding of the Hofle telegram.
Football stadiums only register the arrival of people with their tickets in hand and not their departures, so everyone died in the stadiums.
Football stadiums can evidence the crowd leaving. Revisionists cannot do that with TII.
The death toll is not based on anything, there is no document mentioning deaths. And you will not filter the ashes in these fields, so at most they are people whose whereabouts are unknown but who are dead, none of you can attest to. No modern criminal investigation method has been applied to the Holocaust, in fact it did not even come close to the Katyn investigation by the Germans.

Not all stadiums are able to provide fans leaving them

If I wanted to incriminate the owners of a stadium, all I had to do was seize their security cameras. Now transfer that to the Holocaust. Did those who liberated the camps have scruples? Before saying that there is no evidence of Jews going elsewhere, one should ask, “Is that really the case?”
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Stubble wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:53 pm .....

Spit out that biscuit.

A tile is not a gas chamber.
When the tiles, brick and concrete found buried where witnesses located the second gas chambers and the colours and construction match witness descriptions, that is strong corroborative evidence of gas chambers.

It is like a witness describing a type of gun and a search finds parts of that type of gun buried at the location of the alleged shooting.
Also, where on that patch of dirt do you bury 2x the population of liverpool?
In the area that is 2 hectares, up to 7m deep.
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TlsMS93 wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:49 pm
Nessie wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:39 pm
TlsMS93 wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:05 pm The witnesses did not count how many bodies were buried or how many were cremated, much less did they find human ashes in the alleged number of dead. So the Höfle Telegram is the only thing they rely on, and this is interpreted as the names of fields and extrapolating that everyone died.
The death tolls were estimated from transport records, prior to the finding of the Hofle telegram.
Football stadiums only register the arrival of people with their tickets in hand and not their departures, so everyone died in the stadiums.
Football stadiums can evidence the crowd leaving. Revisionists cannot do that with TII.
The death toll is not based on anything, there is no document mentioning deaths.
The death toll is based on documents recording arrivals.
And you will not filter the ashes in these fields, so at most they are people whose whereabouts are unknown but who are dead, none of you can attest to. No modern criminal investigation method has been applied to the Holocaust, in fact it did not even come close to the Katyn investigation by the Germans.
Site surveys prove a huge area of disturbed ground containing cremated human remains. No other mass grave sites come close to its size, except Belzec, Sobibor and Chelmno.
Not all stadiums are able to provide fans leaving them
It is easy to prove a stadium emptied at the end of a game, from witness and other evidence.
If I wanted to incriminate the owners of a stadium, all I had to do was seize their security cameras. Now transfer that to the Holocaust. Did those who liberated the camps have scruples? Before saying that there is no evidence of Jews going elsewhere, one should ask, “Is that really the case?”
You have all the crowd as witnesses, plus being able to search the stadium to prove it is empty. You cannot find any evidence from any source that the hundreds of thousands who arrived at TII, then left.
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