Examples of the argument from gullibility to plagiarized schlock

[Stubble]

But, the shoes!

[pilgrimofdark]

But, the shoes!

This is a unique photograph that is printed in my 2022 book, Angel at the Gas Station Mens Room Stall: The True Story of a Love That Survived.



Historians say it is a unique photograph and the only one that was taken by me. It is said to be one-of-one, the only photograph I took that day.

It hangs in the Car Crash Museum for the Investigation of Atrocities of the Anti-SMERSHite Speeders and Their Accomplices and the Damage They Caused to Cars, Gas Stations, Traffic Cones, Park Strips, and Institutions of the Department of Streets and Sanitation.

When I told them that I didn't take it, and it wasn't taken that day, and there were 40-50 photographs taken, they said I took a unique photograph.

They diagnosed me with Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder and said I was accurate with my memory that the photo was unique and that I took it.

I trust my historians, whom I go to every week for Freudian psychoanalysis therapy. They are treating my Major frontotemporal neurocognitive disorder, which they say proves I always tell the truth.

[Stubble]

That's, a lot of lost soles...

[Keen]

But what you have highlighted so far, is inconsequential.

Like the inconsequential human remains that you fraudulently allege constitute "evidence" that hundreds and hundreds of thousands of jews were murdered and buried within the boundary of various AR camps? "Evidence" that you cannot even proof came from within the boundary of the camps themselves?

[pilgrimofdark]

Treblinka eyewitness, head of the Holocaust mainstream:

Treblinka (camp) -- An eyewitness provided the following news: "We were digging enormous pits for graves. Every day the Germans would bring groups of 30,000 Jews, whom they ordered to strip naked and walk into the grave. The grave was then covered up with the living people in it. I was in the camp for 3 weeks (May)."

- Oyneg Shabes bulletin, June 18, 1942

Treblinka eyewitness has worked out to his satisfaction that up to 630,000 Jews were buried alive in mass graves at Treblinka two months before the camp began to operate. He was easily able to dupe the Warsaw underground to publish his report.

This is a perfect example of a witness historians have assessed. His main claims of 30,000 Jews being killed per day for three weeks in May 1942 at Treblinka are corroborated, therefore he is being truthful, hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried at Treblinka months before it opened.

Why does Treblinka eyewitness and Oyneg Shabes cling to the logically flawed argument from gullibility to wartime propaganda schlock, that because they can work out how half a million Jews were buried alive at a camp months before it opened, therefore it did happen?

AI Overview: The fallacy of argument from gullibility to wartime propaganda schlock is a logical fallacy of accepting a claim as true solely because it originates from wartime propaganda on the side you support. It assumes that the intended audience's emotional or fearful reception of that propaganda schlock validates its factual accuracy.

Holocaust mainstream presents a paradoxical picture: it has surged offline in various government-funded institutions, but in a largely headed form with Treblinka eyewitness being guru of the Holocaust, part of a wider upsurge in academic semitism in the past sixty to eighty years.

The reality is that Treblinka eyewitness has the skills needed to be able to count people arriving at a camp he was present at for 3 weeks, and he does not fall for illogical arguments. The issue bullies and censors dodge, is where these 630,000 Jews were in 1944 if they were not buried alive at Treblinka in May 1942? You can not evidence their survival. I can point to them in the ground.

As the head of the Holocaust mainstream, Treblinka eyewitness would like to open up the possibility of recruiting new contributors, who might pick up the "death truncheon" and who can head the Holocaust as it currently is, in its centralized, leadership-driven form.

That Treblinka eyewitness is corroborated by additional reports from as early as May 29, 1942, explicitly referencing the murder of hundreds of Jews by "death truncheon" at the Treblinka "death camp," is a slam dunk.

Disclaimer: the point of this thread is to highlight mistakes/misconceptions of mainstream works with the same lack of charity, hyperbolic insults, and non sequitor mischaracterizations as directed at revisionist writings. The citations are real, the tone is satirical. If it looks unhinged, insane, and paranoid -- that's because it is. Some people who take this thread way too seriously have denounced such argumentation style as being something only losers would use.

[Nessie]

Treblinka eyewitness, head of the Holocaust mainstream:

Treblinka (camp) -- An eyewitness provided the following news: "We were digging enormous pits for graves. Every day the Germans would bring groups of 30,000 Jews, whom they ordered to strip naked and walk into the grave. The grave was then covered up with the living people in it. I was in the camp for 3 weeks (May)."

- Oyneg Shabes bulletin, June 18, 1942

Treblinka eyewitness has worked out to his satisfaction that up to 630,000 Jews were buried alive in mass graves at Treblinka two months before the camp began to operate. He was easily able to dupe the Warsaw underground to publish his report.

This is a perfect example of a witness historians have assessed.

The witness is not named, so that is not true.

His main claims of 30,000 Jews being killed per day for three weeks in May 1942 at Treblinka are corroborated, therefore he is being truthful, hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried at Treblinka months before it opened.

It is correct that the main event, of mass transports, killing and burial are corroborated by every single eyewitness who worked at the camp. No camp worker deviates from that primary narrative.

Why does Treblinka eyewitness and Oyneg Shabes cling to the logically flawed argument from gullibility to wartime propaganda schlock, that because they can work out how half a million Jews were buried alive at a camp months before it opened, therefore it did happen?

That has not happened. The Polish Jewish intelligence group was reporting an unnamed source, early in the history of TII, when little was known about what was happening. At that time, there was not enough evidence to prove TII was a death camp. May 1942 was at the start of the evidence gathering process.

AI Overview: The fallacy of argument from gullibility to wartime propaganda schlock is a logical fallacy of accepting a claim as true solely because it originates from wartime propaganda on the side you support. It assumes that the intended audience's emotional or fearful reception of that propaganda schlock validates its factual accuracy.

In May 1942, reports from Poland, of mass killing of Jews by the Nazis were being treated with scepticism by the Allies.

Holocaust mainstream presents a paradoxical picture: it has surged offline in various government-funded institutions, but in a largely headed form with Treblinka eyewitness being guru of the Holocaust, part of a wider upsurge in academic semitism in the past sixty to eighty years.

You need to not make the mistake of thinking what was known in 1942, was as much as was known over the following sixty to eighty years.

The reality is that Treblinka eyewitness has the skills needed to be able to count people arriving at a camp he was present at for 3 weeks, and he does not fall for illogical arguments. The issue bullies and censors dodge, is where these 630,000 Jews were in 1944 if they were not buried alive at Treblinka in May 1942? You can not evidence their survival. I can point to them in the ground.

As the head of the Holocaust mainstream, Treblinka eyewitness would like to open up the possibility of recruiting new contributors, who might pick up the "death truncheon" and who can head the Holocaust as it currently is, in its centralized, leadership-driven form.

That Treblinka eyewitness is corroborated by additional reports from as early as May 29, 1942, explicitly referencing the murder of hundreds of Jews by "death truncheon" at the Treblinka "death camp," is a slam dunk.

Disclaimer: the point of this thread is to highlight mistakes/misconceptions of mainstream works with the same lack of charity, hyperbolic insults, and non sequitor mischaracterizations as directed at revisionist writings. The citations are real, the tone is satirical. If it looks unhinged, insane, and paranoid -- that's because it is. Some people who take this thread way too seriously have denounced such argumentation style as being something only losers would use.

The mistakes you suggest you are highlighting, merely reveal your ignorance as to how evidence was gathered, how it took to gather evidence and how conclusions are reached, at different times, from the evidence available at that time. In Mat 1942, historians had no role to play, that came much later, starting in the 1950s. In May 1942 the evidence gatherers were the Polish intelligence services and other Poles who had formed groups specifically to report on what was taking place. Poles working with Oyneg Shabes, journalists and intelligence services, assisted by members of the public, were gathering evidence, mainly in the form of rumours, in 1942. By 1945, specific war crimes commissions, staffed by criminal investigators had been set up. The historians came much later.

[pilgrimofdark]

Liar, hoaxer, and conspiracist Franciszek Zabecki:

Until February 1943, the [Treblinka] stationmaster was Józef Pronicki, who was transferred to Warsaw. From February 1943 to August 1944, the stationmaster was Józef Kuzminski.

- 1944 Soviet interrogation

I missed out on promotion. I didn't become a stationmaster.

Józef Kuźmiński took Pronicki's place as stationmaster.

- 1977 memoirs

Historians have worked out to their satisfaction that Franciszek Zabecki is a liar who was engaged in a conspiracy to hoax.

Caroline Sturdy Colls exposes him for the lying, hoaxing, conspirator he is:

Stationmaster Franciszek Ząbecki reported that the “Lithuanians” among the Trawniki men who guarded the trains were particularly notorious for being “sadists; they used to shoot at people blind through the cars, when they begged for doctors, water and to be allowed to relieve themselves.” [Endnote 41]

- Finding Treblinka, p. 284

That Zabecki can not work out to his satisfaction that he was the stationmaster, does not mean Zabecki was not the stationmaster.

That Zabecki can not work out to his satisfaction that Pronicki was not the stationmaster, does not mean Pronicki was the stationmaster.

That Zabecki can not work out to his satisfaction that Kuźmiński did not take over as stationmaster after Pronicki, does not mean Kuźmiński was the stationmaster.

Liar Franciszek Zabecki, stationmaster of Treblinka, with his hoaxed ID card identifying him as a dispatcher:



This is a perfect example of a witness historians have assessed. His claim to not being the stationmaster is not corroborated, therefore he is engaged in a conspiracy to hoax via lying.

Studies show humans are poor at estimating and memory. Ask any number of adults what their job title was last year, most will not be able to recall with any degree of accuracy. Ask people who their boss was last month, most will not be able to remember and will give an incorrect name, that does not prove they are lying, therefore, they are truthful.

Why does Zabecki cling to the logically flawed argument from incredulity that because he can not work how he was the stationmaster, that he was not the stationmaster?

Historians, with their relevant training and expertise in Freudian psychoanalysis, are far more likely to come to a correct conclusion about Zabecki being the stationmaster than the untrained, uneducated Zabecki.

Why is Zabecki allowed to bully on this forum? That he abuses others shows his methodology is flawed as he can only censor.

[Nessie]

Liar, hoaxer, and conspiracist Franciszek Zabecki...

None of your mickey taking is evidence to prove Zabecki lied about the mass transports to TII.

[Keen]

Liar, hoaxer, and conspiracist Franciszek Zabecki...

None of your mickey taking is evidence to prove Zabecki lied about the mass transports to TII.

Speaking of being transited to Treblinka II, see for yourself the number of jews who destroy the "pure extermination center" hoax by admitting that they themselves, and thousands like them, were transited TROUGH Treblkinka II: