Iran Attack

[Eye of Zyclone]

Wrong!
It was made illegal by creating International laws to that effect in 1945.
So starting a war without just cause (see below) DEFINITELY HAS BEEN agreed to be “ILLEGAL” for the last EIGHT DECADES!

Most adult people know this.
Most know this precisely because we have all been brainwashed since 1945 into believing the ‘good guy’ nations were not guilty of ANY crimes during WW2 but instead fought a ‘just war’.
Plus, most adult people erroneously believe that the Nürnberg show-trials were actually fair and judicial.
These two lies have been firmly established in the minds of billions of people.

You misunderstood my point. My point was that the side that started a war is invariably the side that lost that war because history is just a story made up by the victors to absolve themselves of all blame and justify their postwar domination and dictates. WW2 was caused and therefore started by some Zionist circles in England and the United States, but the defeated Third Reich was nevertheless blamed for starting the Second World War (the War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity thing was concocted primarily to make Germany's fictive Crimes Against Peace more plausible). Israel and the United States are already distorting the truth to explain why Iran allegedly started this war. This is only a matter of "public relations" (a democratic euphemism for "propaganda") and power, not a matter of facts and truth. Grow up, kid.



In the Nuremberg jargon :

• War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity = "the satanic"

• Crimes Against Peace = "the guilty"

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Wrong!
It was made illegal by creating International laws to that effect in 1945.
So starting a war without just cause (see below) DEFINITELY HAS BEEN agreed to be “ILLEGAL” for the last EIGHT DECADES!

Most adult people know this.
Most know this precisely because we have all been brainwashed since 1945 into believing the ‘good guy’ nations were not guilty of ANY crimes during WW2 but instead fought a ‘just war’.
Plus, most adult people erroneously believe that the Nürnberg show-trials were actually fair and judicial.
These two lies have been firmly established in the minds of billions of people.

You misunderstood my point. My point was that the side that started a war is invariably the side that lost that war because history is just a story made up by the victors to absolve themselves of all blame and justify their postwar domination and dictates. WW2 was caused and therefore started by some Zionist circles in England and the United States, but the defeated Third Reich was nevertheless blamed for starting the Second World War (the War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity thing was concocted primarily to make Germany's fictive Crimes Against Peace more plausible). Israel and the United States are already distorting the truth to explain why Iran allegedly started this war.



In the Nuremberg jargon :

• War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity = "the satanic"

• Crimes Against Peace = "the guilty"

How many years did the painter try to avoid war? With the German blood the Polish were putting into the soil in the corridor during their ethnic cleaning of the lands they stole after ww1, how long should Germany have waited? There reaches a point when one must act.

[Eye of Zyclone]

How many years did the painter try to avoid war? With the German blood the Polish were putting into the soil in the corridor during their ethnic cleaning of the lands they stole after ww1, how long should Germany have waited? There reaches a point when one must act.

It depended on who was going to win that war.

And the answer is :

• more than enough time in the event of a German victory

• "what bloodbath? (muh Nazi propaganda...)" in the event of a Soviet-Allied victory

[Wahrheitssucher]

Wrong!
It was made illegal by creating International laws to that effect in 1945.
So starting a war without just cause (see below) DEFINITELY HAS BEEN agreed to be “ILLEGAL” for the last EIGHT DECADES!

Most adult people know this.
Most know this precisely because we have all been brainwashed since 1945 into believing the ‘good guy’ nations were not guilty of ANY crimes during WW2 but instead fought a ‘just war’.
Plus, most adult people erroneously believe that the Nürnberg show-trials were actually fair and judicial.
These two lies have been firmly established in the minds of billions of people.

You misunderstood my point. My point was that the side that started a war is invariably the side that lost that war because history is just a story made up by the victors to absolve themselves of all blame and justify their postwar domination and dictates.
WW2 was caused and therefore started by some Zionist circles in England and the United States, but the defeated Third Reich was nevertheless blamed for starting the Second World War.

I got your point.

I don’t have any disagreement with any of the above.

I replied to your post because you minimised the point I had made.

The point I wrote about is HUGE in its long-term ramifications.
That point being that collectives of JOOZE have just destroyed the rules-based order.

And I suggested readers should think about that for a moment!

They have just openly destroyed a global system that had supposedly outlawed centuries of ‘law-of-the-jungle’ based upon ‘might is right’.

They’ve just proudly destroyed a system of international ‘law’ that took centuries to build and only fairly recently got ratified by all countries worldwide.

Jewish collectives just destroyed that.
This is HUGE!

You argued that THAT point was “just an illusion” as in your view “starting a war has never been illegal”.

That is demonstrably false.

…Israel and the United States are already distorting the truth to explain why Iran allegedly started this war.

I don’t think we are in the same conversation.

I’m discussing: a.) international law; b.) its extremely recent history; and c.) a collective united by their self-identification as belonging to an imaginary tribe, who have just destroyed it and the ‘rules based global order’ in just two years.

[Eye of Zyclone]

I got your point.

I don’t have any disagreement with any of the above.

I replied to your post because you minimised the point I had made.

The point I wrote about is HUGE in its long-term ramifications.
That point being that collectives of JOOZE have just destroyed the rules-based order.

And I suggested readers should think about that for a moment!

You argued that THAT point was “just an illusion” as in your view “starting a war has never been illegal”.

That is demonstrably false.

I don’t think we are in the same conversation.

I’m discussing: a.) international law; b.) its extremely recent history; and c.) a collective united by their self-identification as belonging to an imaginary tribe, who have just destroyed it and the ‘rules based global order’ in just two years.

There is a difference between actually starting a war and allegedly starting a war (i.e. being blamed for starting a war although that's not true). The former is not illegal and the latter is illegal but is just a fiction which is based on who won and who lost a war, that is, on who writes history and who doesn't. As a consequence, Israel has not destroyed a 'rules-based global order' that is the old "might is right" rule plus a mendacious propaganda blaming and punishing the vanquished for allegedly starting a war. Israel and the United States started countless wars after the end of WW2, but they were never blamed and even less convicted and punished for starting those wars. At best, Israel has just dispelled the feel-good illusion of a rules-based global order to some now-awakened people. No big deal if I'm asked.

[Wahrheitssucher]

I got your point.
I don’t have any disagreement with any of the above.
I replied to your post because you minimised the point I had made.

The point I wrote about is HUGE in its long-term ramifications.
That point being that collectives of JOOZE have just destroyed the rules-based order.

And I suggested readers should think about that for a moment!

You argued that THAT point was “just an illusion” as in your view “starting a war has never been illegal”.
That is demonstrably false.
… [snip]…
I don’t think we are in the same conversation.
I’m discussing:
a.) international law;
b.) its extremely recent history; and
c.) a collective united by their self-identification as belonging to an imaginary tribe, who have just destroyed it and the ‘rules based global order’ in just two years.

There is a difference between actually starting a war and allegedly starting a war (i.e. being blamed for starting a war although that's not true).

No disagreement with that.

The former is not illegal and the latter is illegal but is just a fiction which is based on who won and who lost a war, that is, on who writes history and who doesn't.

Semantic quibbling.
It is illegal to murder someone and it is illegal to allegedly murder someone.

As a consequence, Israel has not destroyed a 'rules-based global order' that is the old "might is right" rule…

You appear to me to be in denial.

…Israel and the United States started countless wars after the end of WW2, but they were never blamed and even less convicted and punished for starting those wars.

Countless?? Meaning so many “wars” that we can’t easily count them?

The point is thay always managed to convince everyone that all post WW2 military aggressions were necessary to maintain the ‘rules-based order’ and were “legal”.
And the majority of people accepted that.
That self-delusion has just been thoroughly destroyed!
No sane, intelligent, ethical person can now delude themselves any longer.

Have you not yourself noticed this in conversations with friends and family?

This will have huge ramifications.

At best, Israel has just dispelled the feel-good illusion of a rules-based global order to some now-awakened people. No big deal if I'm asked.

Maybe not a big deal for you.
But can’t you see that for the vast majority of people who have just been awakened to this reality, that is huge and quite devastating to realise that we the ‘good guy’ West are now clearly the ‘bad guys’? It allows people to consider the fact that “we” may have actually been the ‘bad guys’ for centuries.

It allows people to reconsider ALL our history with new ‘eyes’. I.e. in a new light.

PLUS, because of the heavy jooish role in lying about their genocide in Gaza and illegally attacking Iran, it demands that honest, intelligent people must now look again at the role of jooish collectives during that recent history.
Which allows people to reassess the holyH mythology. As if they can control us and lie so brazenly about Gaza, Lebanon and Iran THEN what else have they been lying to us about.

SUMMARY.
This is huge and could be a game-changer.
You appear not to have understood this yet.

[Eye of Zyclone]

The former is not illegal and the latter is illegal but is just a fiction which is based on who won and who lost a war, that is, on who writes history and who doesn't.

Semantic quibbling.
It is illegal to murder someone and it is illegal to allegedly murder someone.

It is not illegal to murder someone if you have a very good lawyer and it is illegal to allegedly murder someone if the prosecutor is better than your lawyer or if you made a false confession under pressure.

As a consequence, Israel has not destroyed a 'rules-based global order' that is the old "might is right" rule…

You appear to me to be in denial.

Pessimistic, maybe. In denial, I don't think so.

…Israel and the United States started countless wars after the end of WW2, but they were never blamed and even less convicted and punished for starting those wars.

The point is thay always managed to convince everyone that all post WW2 military aggressions were necessary to maintain the ‘rules-based order’ and were “legal”.
And the majority of people accepted that.
That self-delusion has just been thoroughly destroyed!
No sane, intelligent, ethical person can now delude themselves any longer.

Have you not yourself noticed this in conversations with friends and family?

This will have huge ramifications.

No, I didn't notice this. It seems to me that they managed this time again to convince almost everyone that their current military aggressions are necessary to maintain the rules-based order and are legal. I hear a lot of sheeple saying that the Hamas started it and Iran needs to be stopped before having nukes.

At best, Israel has just dispelled the feel-good illusion of a rules-based global order to some now-awakened people. No big deal if I'm asked.

Maybe not a big deal for you.

But can’t you see that for the vast majority of people who have just been awakened to this reality, that is huge and quite devastating to realise that we the ‘good guy’ West are now clearly the ‘bad guys’? It allows people to consider the fact that “we” may have actually been the ‘bad guys’ for centuries.

It allows people to reconsider ALL our history with new ‘eyes’. I.e. in a new light.

PLUS, because of the heavy jooish role in lying about their genocide in Gaza and illegally attacking Iran, it demands that honest, intelligent people must now look again at the role of jooish collectives during that recent history.
Which allows people to reassess the holyH mythology. As if they can control us and lie so brazenly about Gaza, Lebanon and Iran THEN what else have they been lying to us about.

No, I haven't seen many people awaken to this. And I foresee that Israel and the United States will succeed in convincing most people that their propaganda lies were not lies but mere mistakes. They always do that. They said "we didn't lie; we've been misled by faulty intelligence" every time they were caught in a lie, and most people just bought it.

SUMMARY.
This is huge and could be a game-changer.
You appear not to have understood this yet.

Only the future will tell. We'll see...

[Eye of Zyclone]

My point was that the side portrayed as the side that started a war is invariably the side that lost that war because history is just a story made up by the victors to absolve themselves of all blame and justify their postwar domination and dictates.

Israel and the United States are already distorting the truth to explain why Iran allegedly started this war. This is only a matter of "public relations" (a democratic euphemism for "propaganda") and power, not a matter of facts and truth.