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Fred Ziffel wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 7:26 am Pope JP2 praying to the dirt pile
Flying Saucer with dirt pile on google maps:
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Many thanks to Hector for the link you provided. I have two photo angles I have been looking for a few years

I can now say with 100% certainty that Eric Hunt's theory of how the women entered B42 and direction of process was indeed covered up. I wanted to see the outside panels for horizontal seam or trace for the entrance. I was holding out to see if the panels were two layer and that they perhaps used the original layer on the outside, they did not. The construction crew in 2014 replaced the panels and stained them to look like the older ones. These were the only panels that were replaced in 2014. In the end covered up the original entrance and Hunt's theory. See Hunt's Majdanek video for his process through the building if not familiar.
In the attachment you cannot see any horizontal seem for the top of the doorway. However, you can see the horizontal seam in Hunt's video. New B42 back wall photo dated Dec 2024
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Here is a rare photo of the urn pile at the crematorium.

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And here's another photo of the urns. This one is misleadingly named "Zyklon.jpg" and captioned "Empty canisters that contained Zyklon B gas". This error was previously pointed out by Carlos Whitlock Porter in The Illustrated Auschwitz Lie on his website.

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Fred Ziffel wrote: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:39 am Image

The side-by-side photo depicting a then and a fairly recent now scene. The photo on the left is the building that was a camp hospital for inmates in 1944 as indicated by the sign I circled for your ease of finding. The photo on the left is the same building taken in 2015. I circled the same window.

If you were someone that believed in the Holobunga and took a tour of the camp, and saw that building, you would never know the role of that building when the Germans occupied Majdanek. Most likely, you would not give that building a second look. No shame in that even for those here who know a little something about this camp.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't this building located between fields 1 and 2, and next to the western fence? So it's a building that basically every tourist sees on their way in and out. The red cross in the window would be seen by all.

According to a 1942 plan, as well as some museum sources, this building was originally the old crematorium. Mattogno disagrees and says that it was the clothes drying facility, which some other museum sources agree with. I also came across this museum map* which appears to have labelled it "old gas chamber".

* Map collaged from this museum video. The narrator describes it as "the first spatial development plan of the late 1940s".

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Therefore, if you are correct, the museum was at that time selling an infirmary as a homicidal gas chamber.

However, in order for this building to be the/an infirmary, it must have been converted from its original purpose. I'm not 100% sure about this. Did it happen, and when? Could be post-liberation. I don't know.
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Dudes in gas masks holding Zyklon cans with a soviet in front of "A" chamber (I got this from Mr. Hunt)

I enclose a photo of the room within a room in B41 once alleged GC before the Zyklon can display was placed here

thanks to Hector, I came across this photo of a photo
It is a section of wall in B1. Due to the doorway barrier that has been there for some time. I could never find a photo of this alleged gas chamber wall. you can see the little window to cell 14. other photos show just the 3 walls
If anyone has a better photo of this wall, can you pass it along to me?
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I think this is the same door but access to the room was blocked when I visited the camp.
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If you are speaking of B1, that is correct. Some form of a barrier has been there for a long long time. That is the reason for no photos of the wall I attached in my last post
"A" chamber will have the pipe sticking out of the door
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Yes, I meant B1.
"A" Chamber doorway is also blocked so can't inspect the chamber from inside.
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I just saw a video from David McCalden was there in 1987 and the barriers was there then
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The museum is out with another video Part 2
Not super interesting but worth a look if interested in Majdanek.

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Archie, If I am out of line please delete, however, I wont make a habit of this
Pretty cool and I thought folks out there might enjoy this
Bass voice is incredible

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Not sure if I posted this slide. It may be of interest

I give credit to David (The Nasty Drunk) Cole for first observing that the "A" Chamber has blue staining but NO ceiling hole, yet B1 has a ceiling hole and NO blue staining. This has been mentioned in past posts on this thread,

I take Cole's observation even farther. I point out that B1 was never exposed to Zyklon because if you see the SHARED WALL of "A" and B1 chambers, you can see the difference with the blue staining. If I were to drill a hole in the B1 shared wall area, the drill bit would punch through to "A" Chamber and vice versa

See more of my observation on the attached slide.

Majdanek has NO Zyklon based gas chambers!
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Majdanek Museum is out with video presentation #3.
This is an interesting one with photo angles you all and I have not seen before. Mostly from 1964
I have two issues with the narrator says and will watch more and comment later.

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I've been going through this book Khurbn-Forshung: documents on early Holocaust research in postwar Poland (open access available), and it includes an article on the Majdanek trial of November 27 - December 2, 1944.
Pohlmann forced people to eat feces. Such a German weakness. One prisoner, a clergyman, was hung on an elasticized gallow placed over a latrine. The body of the martyr rose and fell so that his head time after time was submerged in feces. The agony lasted three days.
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Economical, frugal, as Germans are, in spending on tools of murder. Into the cramped gas chamber, crowded with victims, one throws a few pills of Zyklon [sic]. In the humidity, caused by people’s breath, the horrid tablets melted. The victim inhaled the poison, after that emphysema, bleedings, spurts of feces. Such death prepared the German science for innocent people. Mothers and babies. Two were hanged in one noose. Specification of the types of death was as following: 1) shooting, 2) submerging of heads in shallow water, 3) hanging – gallows were on each field, 4) Zyklon, 5) shot of Evipan, 6) beating to death, 7) gassing in special cars, 8) death from hunger, 9) epidemics caused by special regime and living in the camp.

- Jehoszua Szlajen, Majdanek (Notes from the Courtroom), Document 42.
Maybe someone with relevant training and experience can explain how two people can fit in one noose. How would it be tight enough around the two necks to cause death?

Anyway.

It's claimed that the trials of Nazis held in Poland were, for the most part, fair. But this article contradicts that notion for this very early trial. The Jewish journalist either got these sentiments from watching the trial itself, or is reporting atrocities he got from some other source (but why include them in the article?), or making things up.

Dmitry Ivanovich Kudryavtsev of the Soviet Extraordinary State Commission helped in preparations for the trial. More detail on him here. This might have been why the ESC report on Treblinka was only drafted in December, despite the interrogations taking place in October.

The journalist Jehoszua Szlajen worked with the Central Jewish Historical Commission, which was later reorganized as the Jewish Historical Institute, which houses the Ringelblum Archive materials in Warsaw.
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If you want to hang 2 people with 1 noose, you exceed the length of rope recommended in the executioner's handbook (I forget the precise name, but, it is the lawbook the British required be followed by all authorized executioners) by a factor of at least one and insure there is sufficient 'drop' to pay out the rope. This results in decapitation rather than severing the central nervous system (preferred) or asphyxiation (the result of insufficient drop to sever the spinal cord).

At least that is my understanding of 'best practices'. To my knowledge there isn't actually a section or chapter that covers hanging multiple people at a time with one noose, so, I am of course making an inference based off of the reasons for various drop lengths. I don't have any actual experience either, but, I trust the empiricism used to build the manual. There was much 'trial and error' (forgive the pun). There are plans for gallows that will accommodate more than one executee however, and it seems that was the preferred practice for multiple executees.

Side note: the shit bungee jump method is horrifyingly comical. Of course, no one ever actually did that, it is so absolutely absurd and ridiculous.
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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