Are the US and Russia really enemies?

[Alonso]

According to most media, Russian, American, or from elsewhere, Russia and the US are rivals, even enemies. But I seem to remember having read in the old RODOH forum that both countries are actually controlled by the same people (the Illuminati, international Jewry or whatever they're called). At first, that didn't seem to make much sense. But the post in question claimed that it was the American deep state who brought Putin to power, using Henry Kissinger as their intermediary. To my big surprise, it turns out that Kissinger and Putin were indeed very good friends long before Putin rose to power. Which seems to strongly suggest that there's more to the US-Russia relation than meets the eye. Do you know anything about this?

I'm a regular reader of rt.com, and I tend to root for Russia, Iran, etc., in their conflicts with the US, Israel, etc. But I often have the uncomfortable feeling that I'm being duped. Specially when I read articles like this one, which use holyhoax propaganda to supposedly attack Israel and zionism.

[Archie]

It's not necessarily a static thing. The Americans could have supported him at one point but things can change.

I believe US media and diplomatic circles were fairly favorable toward Putin initially. It was probably not until around ~2008 or so that things started getting more adversarial. I would have to research it to reconstruct a proper timeline, but certainly by 2014 Putin had become a great villain in Western media.

The US has given Ukraine over $150 billion to fight against Russia, so I doubt very much that Putin and the US are secretly allied.

Russia definitely has their version of the Holocaust but it's a bit different than it is elsewhere. They are very bought in on WWII as a national myth. The "Great Patriotic War," they call it. Their glorious triumph over the fascist invaders.

[Alonso]

That's roughly the mainstream media account, and it might be correct. Not everything the mainstream media says are lies. But it's at least remarkable that Kissinger, arguably the most influential diplomat in American history, was (to the best of my knowledge) close friends with Putin since the early nineties, when Putin was just a city major, until Kissinger's death in 2023.

This topic seems to be related to the idea that there is a group of elites, sometimes called the Illuminati, who control the main governments of the world. Apparently, this idea was introduced by a Fritz Springmeier in his book "The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave", which you can find here. A quick look at the book suggests it's not very grounded. Still, I know almost nothing about this kind of idea. Maybe I'm missing something.

Finally, the RT article I mentioned earlier is remarkable in a disturbing way. On the surface, it seems to be a very strong critique of Israel. It starts with a sensible metaphor that compares Israel and the Israeli government to a gang of mafia criminals. Then it briefly mentions some of the worst crimes those criminals have committed in recent times. So far, so good. But then it turns to orthodox zionist propaganda: "we now rightly celebrate those who openly stood up against the Nazis where they held power and committed their crimes, including a genocide of Jews". Is it possible that an author who sees the criminality of Israel so clearly, also completely fails to see the root of all that criminality, i.e., the holyhoax propaganda? It seems at least difficult to believe. They say you shouldn't attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. But the author of this article doesn't seem stupid. He's a PhD. Which suggests that the only explanation left is malice.

The US has given Ukraine over $150 billion to fight against Russia, so I doubt very much that Putin and the US are secretly allied.

That's a strong point, and I can't think of any sensible counterpoint. Still, it doesn't seem to be enough to dispel the feeling that something doesn't quite add up.

[Wahrheitssucher]

According to most media (Russian, American, or from elsewhere), Russia and the US are rivals, even enemies. But I seem to remember having read …that both countries are actually controlled by the same people (…international Jewry…).

ALL ‘western’ countries have powerful and influential people CONTROLLING THEM who are either:
i.) self-identifying as belonging to an elite clique of international jews with shared policies of mutual self-interest;
OR
ii.) shabbat goyim who do their bidding for various reasons.

That also applies to Russia.
And it has applied to Russia since the end-times of the Russian monarchy, plus the elimination of the last Tsar’s entire family.
But I think Putin understands this and has been playing a clever, long game to slowly reduce that control and influence.

Summary:
international jewry have their fingers in EVERYONES’ pies.
No exception!
Errrrm…
well, that was besides the seven countries Gen. Wesley Clarke was told were planned for regime change by the jewish neo-cons.
[https://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/]

They (the int. jews) have been trying to weaken, assassinate or remove Putin for decades as he’s been a big obstacle to their plans.
That’s what provoking him into invading Ukraine was all about.
The preparation for casting him as villain was what the Skripal and Litvinenko poisonings were all about.

They want Putin gone because he supported Assad (Syria) and still supports Iran militarily and economically.
Those two countries were great obstacles to zionist land-theft for Ersatz Israel and oil-production dominance, amongst other things. They (IJ) recently out-manoeuvred him on Syria and Lebanon. But Putin is currently now out-manoeuvring them on Iran.
It’s like a global game of geo-political chess.
One where the US and rest of Europe BESIDES Russia, are totally controlled by international jewry.

Cuba, N. Korea and Iran are what’s left of countries who have no international banks. Russia has them. Which is how control is leveraged.

Think about it!
If it were not so, and zio-jews internationally were NOT in control, how else could the Zionists get away with the ULTIMATE wicked crime of genocidal mass-murder for over two years. A viciously hateful and sadistic mass-murder of a defenceless, entrapped people that is CAPTURED ON FILM BY BRAGGING IOF soldiers?
They are not only getting away with it, but almost ALL western leaders have been supporting it and lying to their electorates about it.
How would that be possible otherwise?

At first, that didn't seem to make much sense. But the post in question claimed that it was the American deep state who brought Putin to power, using Henry Kissinger as their intermediary.

I have never seen any evidence of that.
Have you?
Please share if you have.
I think that is misinformation.

To my big surprise, it turns out that Kissinger and Putin were indeed very good friends long before Putin rose to power.

I have never seen any evidence of that either.
“…very good friends”??
And “BEFORE Putin rose to power”????
Nah. Don’t believe that.
I think that’s probably you reading someone repeating yet more, calculated misinformation!
Putin allegedly communicated with Kissinger occasionally over many years. And Putin gave condolences and praise to his widow after his death.
That’s it.
Both men used diplomacy and MSM like chess players / poker players.

Which seems to strongly suggest that there's more to the US-Russia relation than meets the eye. Do you know anything about this?

Putin was prepared as his successor by Boris Yeltsin on the recommendation of Valentin Yumashev. Not by Kissinger.

I'm a regular reader of rt.com,

So am I.
Sometimes I’m surprised why there is not stronger criticism of Israel and never any mention of Jewish power. But maybe that’s a long-view policy strategy to avoid what until recently could be the extremely damaging accusation of anti-semitism?

…and I tend to root for Russia, Iran, etc., in their conflicts with the US, Israel, etc. But I often have the uncomfortable feeling that I'm being duped. Specially when I read articles like this one, which use holyhoax propaganda to supposedly attack Israel and zionism.

First, that article is written by a German so by someone who has been more ‘brainwashed’ into believing holyhoax propaganda than people of any other nation.
Secondly, he was quoting a jew.
Thirdly, his use of holyH misinformation example is quite mild:
“Attacking Elbit, Israel's largest arms company, is, as [jewish] investigative journalist Max Blumenthal put it, the contemporary equivalent of sabotaging the railway lines to Auschwitz…”