Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)

[Nessie]

When I asked you, in this thread, "If 2.075 Jews were NOT murdered and buried at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and TII, then where were they in 1944?" you replied "Somewhere other than Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II."

Right, which is an answer that you know is true, and is an issue that I am investigating:

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(But you cravenly refuse to offer any help in the investigation. Why is that Sergay?)


And I've asked you this question about a 100 times:

A - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??

But you cravenly refuse to answer because you are a lying, low IQ coward.

Now let's sit back and watch the cornered rat squirm!

I am refusing to answer, because you refuse to answer my question about where did they go, and the abuse you use. You could easily stop your abuse and answer my questions, but for some reason you do not do so. I think you are just using the question, to keep the abuse going, as you are a serial abuser.

[Keen]

Look at Sergay run!

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II - ??

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Archaeologists can easily distinguish a garbage pit from a mass grave?

Nessie:

I am refusing to answer, because...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know; because you are not just a lying, low IQ coward, but a cornered rat:

[Wahrheitssucher]

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“Where did they go?” bleat the verity-challenged vacillators.

A1. Not into the ground at Sobibor, Treblinka, etc., as deceitfully claimed.

A2. Some went to the ‘East’ of Germany, i.e. Russia, as documented by Korherr, etc.

Here’s evidence in 1946 of 3 MILLION of them returning from Russia.



The statement at the end claiming they had “taken refuge [there] in 1939” lacks corroboration.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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A zionist Rabbi poses the question to other zionist jooze: “how many jooze died in [our holyHoax]?”

Then answers it: “not even three million”.

[Hektor]

Where'd they go?

Good question, it would be great if we could find them, wouldn't it. You however, don't seem to be looking.
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Indeed. There were millions of missing people looked for after WW2. Strangely, virtually no Jews.

[mengelemyth]

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This is evidence?

When you read beyond the headline, it clearly states they registered ~10,000 Eastern European Jews per month, and a single army informant speculated that "we may have to look after 3 million of them".

That is quite different from 3 million Jews actually showing up... which did not happen.

They also mention 1,000 Jews coming from the British zone.

We are well aware that many Jews were able to flee eastward into Russia in the 1930s. It's hardly a surprise that some later returned home. This isn't "proof" that the Germans were actually just shipping millions of them east. If that were true, these returning Jews would exist to tell us about it. The Jews shipped by Germans via "transit camps" into Russia do not exist.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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This is evidence?

Yes.

When you read beyond the headline…

Why ignore the headline?

Is it because it is evidence that refutes a cherished belief?

[mengelemyth]

“Why ignore the headline?”

Because the body of the article clearly confirms the ‘headline’ was mere speculation from one unidentified man. If you aren’t aware that the media often use attention grabbing headlines, idk what to tell you.

[Stubble]

Well, they aren't in the ground at the Bug River Camps.

Most of what I can find is nebulous, as in the refugee files, or anecdotal, like the headline above.

Given the state of the various digs at the alleged murder sites, and contrasting that to the claims, leaves a large outstanding deficit of missing persons.

I will grant that they are missing, presumed dead. For me part of the issue is determining what happened, because even if these people were murdered, it wasn't at the sites these mass murders are alleged to have been committed.

Which presents a quandary.

[Wahrheitssucher]

“Why ignore the headline?”

Because the body of the article clearly confirms the ‘headline’ was mere speculation from one unidentified man…

No it doesn’t.
The reality you are denying is that the body of the article clearly confirms the content of the ‘headline’.

[mengelemyth]

Given the state of the various digs at the alleged murder sites, and contrasting that to the claims, leaves a large outstanding deficit of missing persons.

Idk man, when they dug at Treblinka they found 215,000 square feet of sand mixed in with human ashes, bones and tissue remains... it stank from 300+ feet away.

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... linka.html

[Archie]

Given the state of the various digs at the alleged murder sites, and contrasting that to the claims, leaves a large outstanding deficit of missing persons.

Idk man, when they dug at Treblinka they found 215,000 square feet of sand mixed in with human ashes, bones and tissue remains... it stank from 300+ feet away.

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... linka.html

According to the same "investigators" who claimed 1.7M killed at Majdanek.



Please share some photos with us of these extensive remains you claim were excavated at Treblinka.

[Stubble]

Wait, is this the 'investigation' that took 'The 13 Apostles' of Treblinka to the site, where they couldn't locate the mass graves?

I think I'm finding the origin of the 56 Olympic swimming pools canard.

Now, can somebody show me an actual study of the site that actually shows what disturbed earth potentially could have been grave space?

So far the most resolved published study is from Colls, and that basically confirms Krege.

I mean, she did find a tooth at the site, but, that was a sharks tooth, indicating the soil hadn't been disturbed in millenia, and she did find some human remains, in a cemetery (shocking).

If I look at the Kola studies, I can see why he didn't get to touch Treblinka, and if I look at the Sobibor digs, I count Kola's bore studies as inaccurate almost to the point of fraud.

I mean, grave 1, is not a mass grave, grave 2, is not a mass grave, grave 5, has some hair in the bottom and unburned bodies are in the graves, not cremains. I'd also take time to note, most of the grave space, is clean sand. White sand they trucked in.

If you want to prove any of these mass graves at any of the sites actually exist, do the world a favor and go to 'This is About Science' and make some money showing everyone what you claim exists.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

Spoiler

OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

The dead are not in the dirt along the Bug River, and that horse is long since dead, having been beaten to death, many times, for the last 80 odd years.

So now I'm just gonna ask,

Where did they go!!!1

[mengelemyth]

According to the same "investigators" who claimed 1.7M killed at Majdanek.

Łukaszkiewicz's theoretical calculation was based on coke capacity at Majdanek. They never claimed to have exhumed anything at Majdanek to confirm it. It's not like anybody took those figures seriously; Raul Hilberg had estimated total of 50k by the 50s and 60s.

However, Łukaszkiewicz did exhume the ground at Treblinka – and found some evidence. Do you believe the hundreds of men involved were all pretending to have volumes of ash mixed in with sand, with some graves as deep as 6 meters? Are the photos a hoax?

So far the most resolved published study is from Colls, and that basically confirms Krege.

I mean, she did find a tooth at the site, but, that was a sharks tooth, indicating the soil hadn't been disturbed in millenia, and she did find some human remains, in a cemetery (shocking).

You’re stuck in 2012. I'm well aware of that silly television with the shark tooth that Colls took part in. I am not a fan of pop-science garbage. However, Colls and colleagues have published more comprehensive findings since. They identified more extensive and sizeable graves at Treblinka, confirming the original findings of Łukaszkiewicz. In contrast, the “Krege Report” was never published, and does not exist. Who is hoaxing here?

I am in favour of a complete excavation of Treblinka, especially under the ugly concrete soviet memorial. Allow a dispassionate analysis with modern technology. Given that deniers cannot explain where the ~900k Treblinka 'transit camp' jews went, the most logical conclusion is they were killed. If people are skeptical, I agree, start digging!

[borjastick]

Notice how the believers always start with a figure that is the highest reported and never confirmed. I always start with a figure that is realistic and then ask what was the location/camp used for. The old low IQ claim that if we cannot prove where 'they' went (((they))) must have been killed in situ is riduclous beyond words.