Sobibor 2012 excavation

[Keen]

Thanks for that Stubble.

Much appreciated.

[Keen]

After reflecting on it, and, ruminating on these reports, it still stands out to me how little evidence there is of 'mass murder'.

This is not the same as saying there are not people there 'embraced by mother earth'. There are some bodies there, and some human remains in various states.

When I first started digging in to these reports, I came a little unglued, looking at many, many cubic meters of clean sand.

There can not be a quarter of a million people buried there, the space is entirely too small.

Nick will pivot to 'they were cremated, the full quarter million were never buried there'.

The fact is, the space is too small for half that.

That is why the NOVA program was scrubbed. They realized that they were revealing just how small and shallow the areas of disturbered ground were and proving Kola's "study" to be bogus.

[Archie]

It seems there is good reason to question their characterizations. Something to keep in mind with the Belzec study where they've shown no photographs of the samples whatsoever.



I mean, maybe there's a little something there, but it really doesn't look like much.

[Stubble]

That's a big part of why I lost it the other day Archie. I mean, I lost it man. Rage isn't even the right word.

They know they aren't in the dirt there, I am being consciously lied to.

[Keen]

That's a big part of why I lost it the other day Archie. I mean, I lost it man. Rage isn't even the right word.

They know they aren't in the dirt there, I am being consciously lied to.

I don't mean to derail this thread by bringing up another camp, BUT...

Stubble, if you think Sobibor is bad, wait until you look into Ponary.

There is literally nothing there.

NOTHING.

In fact, it could be said that there is less than nothing. They are literally claiming that holes in the ground filled with nothing but air are "huge mass graves."

[Stubble]

There is almost nothing at any of the sites. The excuses about that are many and long.

Apparently, the Germans must have had a giant meat grinder at the extermination camps and poured the dead in as a liquid in the beginning, even so, the claimed tally doesn't fit though, so, I don't know what they did with the excess.

I'm told that millions upon millions of people were murdered, and yet, even 80+ years later, not even those missing are identified, what's less those claimed murdered.

[Keen]

There is almost nothing at any of the sites.

Right, but what I'm saying is, there in NOTHING in the 7 alleged "huge mass graves" of Ponary except air.

[Stubble]

Looking on CODOH for information on Ponary, I ran into this news article describing jews being gassed at the Treblinka 'extermination camp' with 'poison gas' before it was even opened.

https://codoh.com/library/document/a-pr ... -for-jews/

According to the article Nick was incredulous about it.

Well, here it is fella's. Lay eyes on some literal atrocity propaganda from the Polish Government in Exile presented as fact.

[Keen]

I'm done for now. I searched for more reports and photos for hours the last few days. I am going to give it a rest for the time being and get caught up on some other things. But the work can be added to anytime someone finds something of value. I'll post it in my next post below.

If you see any mistakes, please let me know.

[Keen]

By examining each “scientifically proven mass grave” allegation separately, an intelligent person can easily
see just how utterly vacuous and criminally fraudulent this transparent archaeological hoax really is.

So let's try to locate those 250,000 jews that are fraudulently alleged to be buried in Sobibor, shall we?

First, here are the maps that show the fraudulently alleged "archaeologically proven huge mass graves" of Sobibor:

Map one: https://postimg.cc/8sL2bvXB

Map two: https://postimg.cc/gxpV26B7

Note: Alleged "huge mass grave" #18 is not shown in either of these maps.

NOTE: The average number of jews that should be buried in each of the 20 fraudulently alleged
"huge mass graves" - IF - the Sobibor holocaust story is true, is: 12,500

1 = "Mass grave" #1: (Haimi: "Graves one and two are not mass graves... The fill [of "grave" 1] is composed of... sand")
Photo: https://static-cdn.toi-media.com/www/up ... 24x640.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

2 = "Mass grave" #2: (Haimi: "At a depth of 3 meters we again encountered ground water... Grave 2... did not constitute a mass grave.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/XNkqPtNv/Sobibor2.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

3 = "Mass grave" #3/4: ("Mass graves" 3 and 4 are now considered one "grave") - (Haimi: "Bones and hair were discovered in Grave No. 3... Our investigations [of "grave" #4] uncovered over 2000 bone fragments")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L4Y33QcN/Sobibor3of3and4.jpg
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/tgvFhFDK/Sobibor4of3and4.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

4 = "Mass grave" #5: (Haimi: "Grave No. 5, two meters in depth, contained the remains of unburnt bones and hair.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L82PykQq/Sobiborgrave5.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

5 = "Mass grave" #6: (Haimi: "The eastern and western boundaries of Grave No. 6 were uncovered, revealing burnt bones.)
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/R0DrHbtw/Sobibor6.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

6 = "Mass grave" #7: (Haimi: "Grave No. 7 cancelled out the crematorium.")
Photo: https://postimg.cc/XZB0LZmf

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

7 = "Mass grave" #8/15: ("Mass graves" 8 and 15 are now considered one "grave") - (Haimi: "This grave [15] is similar to grave #1... it lacks the remains of bones... Grave No. 8... is 1.80 meters in depth. It contained three layers of human bones.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/Xvfpv4Fr/Sobibor8and15.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

8 = "Mass grave" #9: (Haimi: ???) This alleged "huge mass grave" is just a tiny dot on the map, and is so small that apparently, it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" mass grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

9 = "Mass grave" #10: (Haimi: ???) This alleged "huge mass grave" is just a tiny dot on the map, and is so small that apparently, it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" mass grave even exists..

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

10 = "Mass grave" #11: (Haimi: ???) This alleged "huge mass grave" is just a tiny dot on the map, and is so small that apparently, it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" mass grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

11 = "Mass grave" #12: 6 skeletons
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/B6NTySCs/xdum9skl.png

12 = "Mass grave" #13: 1 skeleton
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/prXwbdbB/Sobiborsi ... ephoto.jpg

13 = "Mass grave" #14: 1 skeleton
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/dtKQppRD/20250913-232757.jpg

14 = "Mass grave" #16: 2 skeletons
Photo:https://i.postimg.cc/GhcwkCJP/20250913-233406.jpg

15 = "Mass grave" #17: (Haimi: "Object 5681 served as a well that eventually was used as grave No. 17.")
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" "well grave" even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

16 = "Mass grave" #18: (Haimi: ???) Apparently, the "evidence" that this alleged "huge mass grave" actually exists is so scant, that it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" mass grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

17 = "Mass grave" #19: (Haimi: ???) Apparently, the "evidence" that this alleged "huge mass grave" actually exists is so scant, that it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" mass grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

18 = "Mass grave" #20: (Haimi: ???) Apparently, the "evidence" that this alleged "huge mass grave" actually exists is so scant, that it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" mass grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

19 = "Mass grave" #21: (Haimi: ???) Apparently, the "evidence" that this alleged "huge mass grave" actually exists is so scant, that it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" mass grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until one of the charlatans or a reality denier can prove otherwise.

20 = "Mass grave" #22: (Haimi: "The area of Camp III is dominated by the ash mound")
Photo: https://infocenters.co.il/gfh/multimedi ... _1_web.jpg )

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 1 / one - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

Well there you have it folks, "scientific / archaeological / forensic PROOF" (according to "holocaust scholars") that the remains
of 250,000 jews really are buried in 20 "huge mass graves" at Sobibor. (Hopefully, seeing all that "proof" didn't traumatize you.)


NUMBER OF "SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN HUGE MASS GRAVES" INVESTIGATED: 20

NUMBER OF jEWS ACCOUNTED FOR: 11

AVERAGE NUMBER OF jEWS IN EACH "SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN HUGE MASS GRAVES": .55

NUMBER OF jEWS WHO EITHER "MAGICALLY DISAPPEARED" AT SOBIBOR OR WERE TRANSITED ELSEWHERE: 249,989


Note: The lying POS who insist that the 20 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Sobibor really do contain the remains
of 250,000 jews have not only been invited, but encouraged to submit photos that substantiate their absurd allegations.

And this is the BEST that they can do. (And they do even worse when it comes to Belzec, Chelmno and Treblinka II!) And apparently, the jews who went to Sobibor to "scientifically / archaeologically / forensically" PROVE to the world that 250,000 jews really are buried in "huge mass graves" at Sobibor, FORGOT to photograph 40% of the "huge mass graves" that they allegedly discovered! Now you know why the jews have had to get laws passed criminalizing any public doubts about their transparent cognitive illusions. (And why the NOVA program about their "archaeological investigation" of Sobibor had to be disappeared.)

And don't forget, there are thousands and thousands of dollars that the liars and frauds could earn - IF - the
fraudulent Sobibor holocaust story that they shamelessly peddle were true: http://thisisaboutscience.com/
(The fact that the "scientific investigators" run from these challenges is ipso facto proof of fraud.)

Now, answer this question: Do you A) believe your lying eyes that tell you that the Sobibor "archaeological investigation" was a fraudulent charade, or B) believe all that "undeniable archaeological / forensic / scientific proof" that suggests the cognitive illusion that you just saw irrefutable proof that the remains of 250,000 jews really do lie in 20 "huge mass graves" at Sobibor?

Warning: If you answered A, then you are a "holocaust denier"!