The holy Holocaust, zionism and irrational belief-systems

[Wahrheitssucher]

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“It used to be that you can't question God. Now you can't question the Holocaust.
Now Holocaust-deniers are bad.
But what about the God denier?
You can be a Godless person. You can question [the existence of] God.
Anything you can question in the Jewish religion.
But not the Holocaust.

Denying God used to be what put you outside of the camp. Now it's denying the Holocaust.

Abraham, [our fore-father] went from town to town building altars to God.
Now they go from town to town building Holocaust memorials.

The Jews built [a] Grand Temple to God in the Holy Land. Now they have Yad Vashem [the holocaust museum in occupied Palestine].

It used to be that people would go and visit the Temple. All the Jews would [visit there].
Now they visit the concentration camps.

‘The Holocaust’ became their Jewishness! And the Holocaust became their god!

They have to constantly infuse Zionism with new life. The Holocaust becomes tired? Because it will. As generations go further away from the Holocaust, it becomes less exciting. They gonna have to find something else.
That's why [zionism] is doomed from the start. Because it wasn't an alive person.
It was a synthetic person [like Dr Frankenstein’s monster] that they had to keep pumping with some artificial life.”

~ Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro
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[Thanks to EofZ for sharing this here:
viewtopic.php?p=16851#p16851]

[Nazgul]

‘The Holocaust’ became their Jewishness! And the Holocaust became their god!

This applies only to Zionist Jews, not all Jews. I agree with you, too many religious Jews, Ashkenazi or otherwise, the alleged holocaust was an supposed event that brought a commonality to their zionist cause, a cause to bring a diaspora closer together. To be fair, they were treated badly, but 99% of the allegations are mental constructs based on fear and uncertainty, of course rumour.
My affiliation is closer to Palestine, Syria and Russia.

[pilgrimofdark]

Jay Gonen was an American Israeli Jew who wrote A Psychohistory of Zionism in 1975.

This is what he wrote about Jews and Zionism in the wake of the holocaust when explaining the Samson and Masada psychologies of Israelis:

It is no surprise that after all that happened to them, Jews have a bottled-up murderous rage toward Gentiles. Nor is it a surprise that, after the great boost in self-esteem that Zionism has provided, Jews can now turn more of their rage outward rather than inward.

- p. 232

He also explores the mentality of Israeli and American Jews who saw the 1967 Six Day War as "the holocaust that did not happen" and the growing realization they had of "the threat of a new holocaust." (pp. 166-167)

And yes, he also discusses the replacement of Judaism by the holocaust.

[borjastick]

Jay Gonen was an American Israeli Jew who wrote A Psychohistory of Zionism in 1975.

This is what he wrote about Jews and Zionism in the wake of the holocaust when explaining the Samson and Masada psychologies of Israelis:

It is no surprise that after all that happened to them, Jews have a bottled-up murderous rage toward Gentiles. Nor is it a surprise that, after the great boost in self-esteem that Zionism has provided, Jews can now turn more of their rage outward rather than inward.

- p. 232

He also explores the mentality of Israeli and American Jews who saw the 1967 Six Day War as "the holocaust that did not happen" and the growing realization they had of "the threat of a new holocaust." (pp. 166-167)

And yes, he also discusses the replacement of Judaism by the holocaust.

'an American Israeli jew...' there's an oxymoron if there ever was one. Jews should hold israeli passports only and none other, even if they have residency in other countries. They either believe in israel or they don't in my opinion.

As to your other point about them striking back after being mistreated I agree that is a phenomenon - the bullied becoming the bullies - but in this case they of course take it to the enth degree and then some. If the latest Hamas/israel peace is broken it will be by the jews that's for certain. They will scheme and lie and renege on aspects of the agreement.

As for dual passports I have a British passport and was born there but also another EU country passport due to family history. I have it because it makes getting in and out of the EU simpler but I don't feel anything else than British.

[Nazgul]

'an American Israeli jew...' there's an oxymoron if there ever was one. Jews should hold israeli passports only and none other, even if they have residency in other countries. They either believe in israel or they don't in my opinion.

What is a Jew? I had no idea I was Jewish until I investigated my family tree. That aside, the majority of world Jews now reside in either Israel or the USA.

[Wahrheitssucher]

What is a Jew? I had no idea I was Jewish until I investigated my family tree.

You aren’t “a jew”.
You are a human being who has bought into an abstract concept.

It’s a purely arbitrary self-identification.

E.g. Christopher Hitchens.
He died aged 62. When he was nearly 40 he was told by his maternal grandmother that she herself and therefore his mother (her daughter) was SECRETLY ‘jewish’ and that therefore he and his brother Peter were also ‘jewish’.

In 1973, when he was 24, his mother had written a letter addressed to him shortly before committing suicide (i.e. a suicide note) but had never said. And neither his maternal grandparent nor his mother had ever showed any sign of being anything other than bog-standard, normal, Brits who like every other Brit attended Christian churches at the appropriate times and sent their kids to Christian boarding schools.

It’s a form of psychosis to imagine that despite a Christian upbringing in Britain he somehow ‘secretly’ belonged to some abstract tribal affiliation that claims unscientific descent from ancient levantine stock.
Be reasonable and think about it rationally and using basic common sense.
His most recent maternal ancestors were from Eastern Europe! Not Samaria, Galilee nor Judaea! His paternal line was presumably Anglo-saxon.

If you have difficulty agreeing then apply that self-identification to any other religious belief or ethnicity.
Imagine you are English, attended English schools and Universities and Anglican churches for 2/3rds of your life and when you are 38 years old your maternal grandmother tells you she is ‘secretly’ Confucianist Chinese, or Voodoo Zulu African, or Japanese Shinto, or Malayan Muslim, or South American Aztec or Tibetan buddhist?

Who in the right mind would discard and deny all their actual societal conditioning and influences and start to self-identify as any of those?

Imagine it! Try it on.

Imagine Hitchens had declared he was now self-identifying as a South American Aztec because his mother’s mother told him that that’s how she self-identified.

It’s a form of inherited, collective insanity.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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Here is a link to an article dealing with a subject matter which I regard as extremely relevant to an accurate understanding of:
i.) our current world situation;
ii.) practical issues for any group-attempt at spreading awareness of the lies & exaggerations inherent in current WW2 ‘history’;
iii.) the political usage of the holyH narrative that has for decades been employed in manipulating public opinion for perceived “jewish’ causes and self-interests.

It’s an article about INFILTRATION.

It is written by a very courageous academic. He is a Professor of Sociology and Political Sociology.

Ironically, Jewish organisations proved his point about inordinate ‘jewish infiltration’ into positions of power and influence in all levels of society when they successfully got his University employers to unfairly and illegally sack from his University Position in 2021 on the ludicrous accusation of teaching ‘hate speech’, “unlawful speech” and of "inciting hatred against Jewish students”.
After this sacking, in 2023, he began legal proceedings to prove "unfair dismissal, breach of contract and discrimination or victimisation on grounds of religion or belief".

In February 2024, an employment tribunal agreed that he had been unfairly dismissed and subjected to discrimination.
Following that judgement and vindication his solicitors issued a statement saying that the Professor had:
"successfully claimed discrimination based on his philosophical belief that Zionism is inherently racist, imperialist, and colonial — a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010 — alongside a finding of unfair dismissal. This judgement establishes for the first time ever that anti-Zionist beliefs are protected in the workplace."

Here is the link to a recent article by the Professor, written Nov 1st 2025:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-177654105

Here is an excerpt:

…The final form of infiltration is tied directly to the Zionist strategy of ensuring that all Jews make an enduring, lifelong commitment to Israel. As this article has shown, this has been central to the Zionist movement since at least 1951 and remains so today. Zionists expect all Jews to act on behalf of Israel whenever called upon — or whenever they perceive Zionist interests to be under threat.

Practically, this means service to Zionism through daily professional, political and social activities, wherever Zionists find themselves: in the media, political parties, business, finance, schools, universities and civil society, including left-wing and so-called “anti-racist” organizations.

In other words, Zionists throughout the social structure are engaged in subversion and infiltration.

One example is the Jewish network within the U.K. civil service. Although set up by the civil service itself, it is in practice run by and for Zionists rather than Jews. Similar patterns exist in universities, the media, the legal profession, finance, industry and other institutions across society.

When the time comes for the proverbial tap on the shoulder, how many who have passed through Zionist indoctrination will fail to respond “appropriately”? To ask the question is almost to invite disbelief. In many cases, no tap on the shoulder is even required. Across the BBC, the media, the entertainment world, the civil service, politics, finance and other commanding heights of society, there are Zionists who are ideologically committed. For them, it makes perfect sense to “do the right thing” when the moment arrives.

The fact remains that the Zionist movement encourages loyalty to its ideology and its program of action even when these run counter to the interests of the host state — or, in all cases, to the interests of its citizenry.

Can we trust Zionists?
In the end, no Zionist can be trusted. Do we imagine that they are not also infiltrating the left? The Palestine solidarity movement? The anti-war movement? [N.b. The holyH revisionist movement?]

in addition to this — as this article has argued — there is an effort to recruit all Jews into a “lifelong connection” to “Israel.” In practical terms, the movement treats all Jews as potential resources. This is why so much effort is devoted to grooming and radicalization through nurseries, schools, synagogues, youth and student groups, and the wide array of Zionist lobby groups and charities.

They attempt to radicalize Jews such that they will put Israel first wherever they end up in the social structure.
And given that Jews are systematically advantaged in the social structure across the West, this has the potential to be a very powerful set of relations.
I submit that infiltration is a cardinal principle of the Zionist movement, and it helps to explain how Zionist individuals and ideas are so heavily embedded in political, civil, economic and cultural life in Western nations.

P.S.
After the Professor defeated the jewish/zionists who had him unjustly sacked, they had the chutzpah to provide yet further self-confirmation of the behaviour of inordinate ‘jewish/zionist’ infiltration into all avenues of society.
Presumably to punish this Professor for defeating them, in February 2025 these jewish/zionist cliques controlling society, arranged for the UK Police to ‘detain’ him at an airport upon his arrival home from a trip abroad.
They did so under the excuse that, because as a journalistic-reporter he had attended the funeral of a person — Hassan Nasrallah — murdered by the Zionist state in Lebanon, he was therefore a possible ‘terrorist’ supporting ‘terrorism’.
These Jews/zionist infiltraitors arranged for him to be detained by British counter-terrorism police by supposedly applyinh Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000.
Several infiltrated groups had also joined these jewish/zionists in calling for his arrest, including even a shadow-cabinet representative for the UK Conservative Political Party.

After the detention (the police had no intention to make an arrest, only to inconvenience him and intimidate him), the Professor took this further, unjust intimidation to make the following observation:
"It is a sign of the way policing operates under immense pressure from Zionist groups".

[borjastick]

Good posts and very interesting series of events.

Zionism is a large set of beliefs and desired actions against those who disagree with it built upon a staggering amount of arrogance and victim playing. Israel genuinely believes it is the centre of judaism and represents the views of and controls all jews. It does not of course but its actions are what causes and grows anti-semitism and jew hatred around the world. Well worth looking at on this subject is the website for jewish voice for peace which makes it clear many jews do not support Israel and do not believe there should be a jewish state.

I noticed last night on Free Speech Nation on Britains' GB News channel which is hosted by a jew, Josh Howie, that he started to talk about 'my ethnicity' rather than the jewish faith etc. This was in connection with the BBC being in total meltdown and the Director General leaving abruptly. He is no doubt an ashkenazi fake jew and has no connection historically or ethnically with jews from the holy land and the tribes of Judah. Ashkenazis are no more ethnically jewish than are muslims or indeed Christians.