The Pyres of Dresden

[Nessie]

Would a so-called revisionist provide a quantity for how many are buried at TII? Plus, show the evidence on which they base their claim.

[HansHill]

Would a so-called revisionist provide a quantity for how many are buried at TII? Plus, show the evidence on which they base their claim.

Good question Nessie. To my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong), no Revisionist has yet been given access or means to produce a quantity analysis of the kind you are requesting on site.

It sounds like we are on the same page here, for once, and I would strongly support you were you to begin campaigning openly for an analysis of this kind being performed!

**Edit**

Anyway this has derailed Stubble's Dresden thread long enough, please take any "rebuttal" you may have to any of the AR threads and I'll join you there.

[Nessie]

Would a so-called revisionist provide a quantity for how many are buried at TII? Plus, show the evidence on which they base their claim.

Good question Nessie. To my knowledge (please correct me if I'm wrong), no Revisionist has yet been given access or means to produce a quantity analysis of the kind you are requesting on site.

I take it you discount the Richard Krege survey and that you discount all the evidence so far produced by surveys of the camp?

It sounds like we are on the same page here, for once, and I would strongly support you were you to begin campaigning openly for an analysis of this kind being performed!

I regard the existing work as open. It has been done in public with reports published. I would also ask, which so-called revisionist has the necessary training and qualifications to conduct such a survey, the results of which you would accept?

[HansHill]

I take it you discount the Richard Krege survey and that you discount all the evidence so far produced by surveys of the camp?

I regard the existing work as open. It has been done in public with reports published. I would also ask, which so-called revisionist has the necessary training and qualifications to conduct such a survey, the results of which you would accept?

Start a Richard Krege thread.

[Nessie]

I take it you discount the Richard Krege survey and that you discount all the evidence so far produced by surveys of the camp?

I regard the existing work as open. It has been done in public with reports published. I would also ask, which so-called revisionist has the necessary training and qualifications to conduct such a survey, the results of which you would accept?

Start a Richard Krege thread.

Do you accept the evidence of the Dresden pyres, that they worked and cremated the corpses to at least cremains?

Do you accept the evidence of the Ohrdruf pyre, that it got hot enough to bend the rails and left corpses more or less whole, but renderable to cremains?

[Callafangers]

Its much harder for you to assert 800,000 from "countless" than it is for me to assert two or three orders of magnitude lower than that.

Bingo.

[Wetzelrad]

1) The exact measurements of the pit at the Heidefriedhof, where exactly did Irving get those from, could you please cite the exact source if you have/he gives it?

My assumption now is that he got them from visiting the cemetery himself, where the ash pit is still in-tact. The ash pit, marked 3 on a map in this flyer, matches those approximate dimensions.
https://heidefriedhof-dresden.de/wp-con ... lowres.pdf

[Nessie]

The pyres at Dresden prove that putting wood under a pile of corpses, with metal rails separating the two, setting the wood alight, will cause the corpses to catch fire and burn to at least cremains. They can be set alight and left to burn.

So, do the so-called revisionists here deny the existence of the Dresden corpses, or claim that they cannot have burnt the corpses and that the fire just went out?

[TlsMS93]

The pyres at Dresden prove that putting wood under a pile of corpses, with metal rails separating the two, setting the wood alight, will cause the corpses to catch fire and burn to at least cremains. They can be set alight and left to burn.

So, do the so-called revisionists here deny the existence of the Dresden corpses, or claim that they cannot have burnt the corpses and that the fire just went out?

You weren't there to see the entire process, so you can't guarantee that simple and limited processes perfected by the Nazis, which no other country can replicate, reduced these bodies to ashes.

You want to believe that the Germans had sufficient, undocumented fuel, or that they developed methods contrary to thermodynamics that dispense with documentation of fuel in the commonly used proportion was sufficient to reduce 1.7 million Jews to ashes. This is the beginning of credulity, accepting witnesses at face value without, however, putting them under scrutiny and replicating experiments they claim were used and their material nature, such as dozens of lumberjacks achieving higher-than-average timber harvesting productivity.