Criticism of Jews as a Collective (Not Just as Individuals) is Ethical and Warranted

[Callafangers]

Let's give Nessie another shot.

Nessie, kindly do me a favor:

Please list honestly and comprehensively all of the differences in scale (per capita) and intent between the Catholic/Christian organizations you have been speaking to, and the Jewish organizations myself and others have been speaking about.

Let's hear your own comprehensive outline of what you will admit as differences between them. I think that is a good starting point, no? Please be thorough so that we don't have to reply with a lot of "what about...?". Do your best to include all objective differences between them, especially the ones that revisionists here have spoken to (feel free to put your own 'spin' on each item, just so long as its included).

Fair enough?

No.

Hey, no problem. Just thought I would give you a shot.

[Nazgul]

Now, you demand belief of claims you make about Jews, compared to other collectives, without any evidence.

Putin admitted that about 70% of the first soviet leadership were jude. That is evidence.

[HansHill]

There is no way.

There is no way he woke up, paid his goy loicense to his local Pakistani Constable over some tea and crumpets, dreamt up this utter slop and posted it, thinking it was a strong series of arguments?

There is no way!

[Wahrheitssucher]

So, you are saying a jew founded National Socialism then Mr Wraith?

The German Workers Party was founded by Anton Drexler; this was essentialy a socialist party to protect the rights of the workers, similar to labour parties in existence within the UK, Australia and NZ. Sadly those parties have lost their roots, slightly left centre of the political spectum and now gone full blown communist, similar to Antifa in the US.

Adolf became leader of the DAP adding National Socialist to the name, creating a personal cult. He was not a bad person at all, fulfilling a need to destroy the communist horde that came from the Russias. At that time Berlin was a vassal of Moscow.

To answer your question yes Jews were involved in the foundation of the DAP, there were many in the Sturmabteilung, being proud soldaten of WWI.

REALITY:
there were no Jews who helped form the German Workers' Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or DAP), nor the revitalised National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP).

The DAP was established in 1919 in Munich by three individuals:
Anton Drexler — a locksmith and railway worker;
Karl Harrer — a journalist;
Dietrich Eckart — a poet and playwright;
and Gottfried Feder — a civil engineer and economist.
None of them self-identified as members of the abstract tribe nor had any Ashkenazi nor Sephardi ancestry.
All four were non-Jewish Germans with strong Nationalist, Socialist and jewish-critical views.

Their political party emerged from ethnic-nationalist (völkisch) circles like the Thule Society, which explicitly opposed what they regarded as unpatriotic, anti-German activities of Jewish collectives.

The DAP’s early members worked in the Munich railway yards and were mostly Drexler's fellow-workers. The DAP started as just a handful of people, and by the late summer of 1919 still only had around 54 members. NONE of these early participants were Jewish, and the party's founding discussions centred on combatting what they regarded as the negative aspects of unethical capitalism, Marxism, and Jewish-collective activity.

Adolf Hitler became the 55th member of the DAP in September 1919.

Jewish collectives — from the time of Adolf’s rise in power, influence and popularity right up to the present day — have taken perverse delight in promoting the baseless rumour that Adolf’s great-grandmother was impregnated with his illegitimate father when working as a house-maid for a non-existent ‘jewish’ noble, in a non-existent, wealthy, elite, jewish family in Graz, Austria ! It is a deliberate deceit: a ‘lie’. One fabricated, circulated and promoted by jewish collectives (i.e. NOT by all jews but by some with a common motive to deceive and confuse) to claim Hitler was a jew. (They tried the same trick on Ernst Zündel).
There was no such ‘jewish’ family in Graz at that time. And Adolf’s great-grandmother never even served as a servant or cook to any family ever, whether jewish or otherwise.

Conclusion:
The DAP and NSDAP were political parties that were NOT formed by anyone at all who self-identified as a person belonging to the abstract tribe whether by ancestry or religious belief.

The DAP's 25-point program — announced in February 1920 — barred Jews from applying for German citizenship.
The NSDAP also prohibited membership to Jews from the outset.
Consequently there is no record of ANY Jewish involvement in the formation of either the DAP or NSDAP.

ONE KNOWN EXCEPTION: In December 1919, Emil Maurice — Hitler's friend and later chauffeur — became the 594th member of the DAP. His great-grandfather was jewish so he was deemed 1/8th ‘jewish’, but that was overcome be declaring him an "honorary Aryan".

SUMMARY of the common argument of people who self-identify as ‘jewish’:
“Do not make ethically or morally motivated, critical observations of ANY collective of jews — no matter how negative, destructive and wicked their actions and motives might be.
Q. Why not?
Q. Why am I defending jewish collectives who conspire to collectively commit unethical acts?
A. Because I myself self-identify as jewish and therefore am conditioned from infancy to defend all and every other fellow self-identifier of the abstract inter-national tribe. Yes, even if such collectives do great evil and are motivated by deeply immoral motivations.

Understanding the mindset of this particular defender:
________
The Nazgûl are a fictional collective in Tolkien’s novels who are ‘weavers of evil spells’.
In the narrative they represent:
— on the mundane level, dangerous opponents of the Company of all that which is noble and positive;
— at the romantic level as the enemies of the heroic protagonists;
— and finally at the mythic level as the "most terrible servants" of the icon of evil.
They dress entirely in black.
Their main weapon is terror.

“The Nazgûl were they, the Ringwraiths, the Úlairi, the Enemy's most terrible servants; darkness went with them, and they cried with the voices of death.”
~ Tolkien. The Silmarillion, "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age"

[Nazgul]

The idea that Hitler was Jewish comes from the fact that the parentage of his father is unknown. Hitler's father, Alois Hitler, was illegitimate. About 10% of the population of Vienna at the time were Jewish. There is a high chance that Hitlers father was Jewish due to the moral codes of the time. High Class people would not have illegitimate children, only Jews who to be honest are pretty virile.

It is highly likely that his hate of Jews was due to his uncertainty of his own family.

[Wahrheitssucher]

There is a high chance that Hitlers father was Jewish.

I rest my case, m’Lud.

[Nazgul]

There is a high chance that Hitlers father was Jewish.

I rest my case, m’Lud.

Guess there is no DNA evidence now to prove it. However, it is about the moral codes of the times and probability of illegitimate children in that tight knit community. Only very isolated communities would allow such things, unlike today of course where it is normal. The only real isolated communities were Jews in Austria. He was born Adolf Schicklgruber. In Romania in the capital city of Bucharest there is a Jewish cemetery named Filantropia, Bulevard Ion Mihalache. there is a grave-stone bearing the name of a certain Adolf Hittler, died in 1892. Eventual researchers revealed that he was an Austrian tailor who moved to Romania. The change of surname is complex, but it is clear the final surname aligns with the Jewish cemetary. Herr Hitler ist ein Jude.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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Alois (1837-1903) was the father of Adolf Hitler.

Alois was born to unmarried Maria Anna Schicklgrüber on the 7th of June 1837 in Strones, Lower Austria. She was 42 years old at the time and Alois was the only child she ever had.

At the time of the birth of Alois, Maria was living with a Strones village family by the name of Trummelschlager.

Alois became the officially acknowledged step-son of seasonal worker Johann Georg Hiedler (alternative spelling: Hitler). This was made official when Johan and Maria Anna Schicklgruber married.

Illegitimacy was quite common at that time in that area and was NOT a big deal. Around that time as many as 40% (forty percent) of births were registered as illegitimate.
E.g. Adolf Hitler’s mother Klara had a longstanding affair with Alois before marrying him in 1885 after the death of his second wife.

Alois was actually raised from the age of 10yrs old in the home of his officially recognised ‘uncle’ Johann Nepomuk Hiedler, who later adopted him for bureaucratic legitimacy in 1876 when Alois was an adult.
In early 1877, twelve years before Adolf's birth, Alois changed the spelling of his surname from ‘Hiedler’ to ‘Hitler’


Johann Georg Hiedler (alternative spelling: Hitler)

Above is a photo of the person Alois regarded as his biological father.
Alois himself legitimised Johann Georg Hiedler as his biological father in 1876 with three witnesses affirming and watching this, and the village priest changed the father's blank space on the birth certificate.

Johann Georg was from Spital (part of Weitra), Austria, and made his living as a wandering journeyman miller.
In 1824, he married his first wife but she died in childbirth five months later.

The most likely father and bilogical parent of Alois was actually Johann Nepomuk Hiedler, the younger brother of Johann Georg. He was at the time of the impregnation a relatively wealthy, married farmer and his elder brother was lodging with the 42 year old Anna Maria Schickelgruber.
What can I tell ya!
It’s complicated.

Alois' mother Maria died during the sixth year of her marriage, at the age of 51 of ‘consumption’ when Alois was 10 years old. So Johann Nepomuk took in Alois and raised him. The likelihood is because he was in fact Alois' natural father but could not acknowledge this publicly due to being married.

Alternatively Johann Nepomuk took responsibility for Alois and raised him because he was the son of his brother Johann Georg, and Johann Nepomuk knew that Alois was Johann Georg's natural child.

Either way, Alois was the biological son of one of the Hiedler brothers.

FACT: Johann Nepomuk left Alois a considerable portion of his life savings in his will.
FACT: All Alois’ ancestors were Catholics.
FACT: what is ‘simple’ and clear is that the false claim that a Graz Jew by the name of Leopold Frankenberger was the paternal grandfather, has been debunked.
It is a lie! A quite ridiculous one that relies on ignorance.

FACT:
Jews were expelled from Graz in the fifteenth century and were not permitted to return until the 1860s, several decades after Alois was born.

FINAL FACT:
Nazgûl can thus be identified — by his own admissions — as a part of a long ‘jewish collective’ who spread this debunked deception.

CONCLUSION:
People who self-identify as ‘Judisch’ and belong to a collective who spread lies about history (in this instance lies about the founders of the DAP and NSDAP plus lies about Hitler’s great grandparents) definitely DO deserve to be identified as such plus DO warrant criticism for their behaviour. Criticism not because they self-identify as belonging to this abstract, inter-national ‘tribe’ but because of their participation in that collective behaviour.

[Nessie]

The reason why you have to emphasise the supposed subversiveness of the Jews, is because you cannot evidence that they are collectively acting, in a secret plot, to elevate themselves above all others.

If a secret plot were happening, Nessie, what would that evidence look like? What's the bar or threshold you would set for "evidence"?

Evidence is eyewitnesses, documents, forensics etc. Evidence of any secretive action, tends to come from whistle blowers, or document leaks, or other exposure. Jewish collectives working to further Jewish interests, are not that hard to find, so there is no great secrecy about them. It is the same with the RC Church.

If Jews were trying for world domination, they have not been very successful. The RC Church, has at times, been very successful.

[Nessie]

Let's give Nessie another shot.

Nessie, kindly do me a favor:

Please list honestly and comprehensively all of the differences in scale (per capita) and intent between the Catholic/Christian organizations you have been speaking to, and the Jewish organizations myself and others have been speaking about.

Let's hear your own comprehensive outline of what you will admit as differences between them. I think that is a good starting point, no? Please be thorough so that we don't have to reply with a lot of "what about...?". Do your best to include all objective differences between them, especially the ones that revisionists here have spoken to (feel free to put your own 'spin' on each item, just so long as its included).

Fair enough?

No.

Hey, no problem. Just thought I would give you a shot.

Will you do it?

[Stubble]

There is no way.

There is no way he woke up, paid his goy loicense to his local Pakistani Constable over some tea and crumpets, dreamt up this utter slop and posted it, thinking it was a strong series of arguments?

There is no way!

Furthermore, it's there forever.

[Wahrheitssucher]

So, you are saying a jew founded National Socialism then Mr Wraith?

The German Workers Party was founded by Anton Drexler; this was essentialy a socialist party to protect the rights of the workers, similar to labour parties in existence within the UK, Australia and NZ. Sadly those parties have lost their roots, slightly left centre of the political spectum and now gone full blown communist, similar to Antifa in the US.

Adolf became leader of the DAP adding National Socialist to the name, creating a personal cult. He was not a bad person at all, fulfilling a need to destroy the communist horde that came from the Russias. At that time Berlin was a vassal of Moscow.

To answer your question yes Jews were involved in the foundation of the DAP, there were many in the Sturmabteilung, being proud soldaten of WWI.

REALITY:
there were no Jews who helped form the German Workers' Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or DAP), nor the revitalised National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP).

The DAP was established in 1919 in Munich by four individuals:
Anton Drexler — a locksmith and railway worker;
Karl Harrer — a journalist;
Dietrich Eckart — a poet and playwright;
and Gottfried Feder — a civil engineer and economist.
None of them self-identified as members of the abstract tribe nor had any Ashkenazi nor Sephardi ancestry.
All four were non-Jewish Germans with strong Nationalist, Socialist and jewish-critical views.

Their political party emerged from ethnic-nationalist (völkisch) circles like the Thule Society, which explicitly opposed what they regarded as unpatriotic, anti-German activities of Jewish collectives.

The DAP’s early members worked in the Munich railway yards and were mostly Drexler's fellow-workers. The DAP started as just a handful of people, and by the late summer of 1919 still only had around 54 members. NONE of these early participants were Jewish, and the party's founding discussions centred on combatting what they regarded as the negative aspects of unethical capitalism, Marxism, and Jewish-collective activity.

Adolf Hitler became the 55th member of the DAP in September 1919.

Jewish collectives — from the time of Adolf’s rise in power, influence and popularity right up to the present day — have taken perverse delight in promoting the baseless rumour that Adolf’s great-grandmother was impregnated with his illegitimate father when working as a house-maid for a non-existent ‘jewish’ noble, in a non-existent, wealthy, elite, jewish family in Graz, Austria ! It is a deliberate deceit: a ‘lie’. One fabricated, circulated and promoted by jewish collectives (i.e. NOT by all jews but by some with a common motive to deceive and confuse) to claim Hitler was a jew. (They tried the same trick on Ernst Zündel).
There was no such ‘jewish’ family in Graz at that time. And Adolf’s great-grandmother never even served as a servant or cook to any family ever, whether jewish or otherwise.

Conclusion:
The DAP and NSDAP were political parties that were NOT formed by anyone at all who self-identified as a person belonging to the abstract tribe whether by ancestry or religious belief.

The DAP's 25-point program — announced in February 1920 — barred Jews from applying for German citizenship.
The NSDAP also prohibited membership to Jews from the outset.
Consequently there is no record of ANY Jewish involvement in the formation of either the DAP or NSDAP.

ONE KNOWN EXCEPTION: In December 1919, Emil Maurice — Hitler's friend and later chauffeur — became the 594th member of the DAP. His great-grandfather was jewish so he was deemed 1/8th ‘jewish’, but that was overcome be declaring him an "honorary Aryan".

SUMMARY of the common argument of people who self-identify as ‘jewish’:
“Do not make ethically or morally motivated, critical observations of ANY collective of jews — no matter how negative, destructive and wicked their actions and motives might be.
Q. Why not?
Q. Why am I defending jewish collectives who conspire to collectively commit unethical acts?
A. Because I myself self-identify as jewish and therefore am conditioned from infancy to defend all and every other fellow self-identifier of the abstract inter-national tribe. Yes, even if such collectives do great evil and are motivated by deeply immoral motivations.

Understanding the mindset of this particular defender:
________
The Nazgûl are a fictional collective in Tolkien’s novels who are ‘weavers of evil spells’.
In the narrative they represent:
— on the mundane level, dangerous opponents of the Company of all that which is noble and positive;
— at the romantic level as the enemies of the heroic protagonists;
— and finally at the mythic level as the "most terrible servants" of the icon of evil.
They dress entirely in black.
Their main weapon is terror.

“The Nazgûl were they, the Ringwraiths, the Úlairi, the Enemy's most terrible servants;
darkness went with them, and they cried with the voices of death.”
~ Tolkien. The Silmarillion, "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age"

P.S.
Nazgûl is not the name of an individual but it the name of a collective: say, like ‘sayanim’, or ‘katsa’ is a name of a collective.

[Hektor]

as the Nuremberg Laws proved, they knew that Jews did not act collectively, as there were "good" Jews, half Jews, lapsed Jews, people who could be considered German. If the Nazis knew that Jews were not an actual collective, then it is wrong to treat Jews as a collective.

The Reichstag was burned 27 February 1933 4 weeks after Hitler was declared Chancellor, alleged communists were arrested, a month later the follow occurred.
The paper below was published in March 1933

The Nuremberg laws were enacted 15 September 1935, a few years later.

On second look from the bird's perspective, every German action appears to be a reaction.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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Alois (1837-1903) was the father of Adolf Hitler.

Alois was born to unmarried Maria Anna Schicklgrüber on the 7th of June 1837 in Strones, Lower Austria. She was 42 years old at the time and Alois was the only child she ever had.

At the time of the birth of Alois, Maria was living with a Strones village family by the name of Trummelschlager.

Alois became the officially acknowledged step-son of seasonal worker Johann Georg Hiedler (alternative spelling: Hitler). This was made official when Johan and Maria Anna Schicklgruber married.

Illegitimacy was quite common at that time in that area and was NOT a big deal. Around that time as many as 40% (forty percent) of births were registered as illegitimate.
E.g. Adolf Hitler’s mother Klara had a longstanding affair with Alois before marrying him in 1885 after the death of his second wife.

Alois was actually raised from the age of 10yrs old in the home of his officially recognised ‘uncle’ Johann Nepomuk Hiedler, who later adopted him for bureaucratic legitimacy in 1876 when Alois was an adult.
In early 1877, twelve years before Adolf's birth, Alois changed the spelling of his surname from ‘Hiedler’ to ‘Hitler’


Johann Georg Hiedler (alternative spelling: Hitler)

Above is a photo of the person Alois regarded as his biological father.
Alois himself legitimised Johann Georg Hiedler as his biological father in 1876 with three witnesses affirming and watching this, and the village priest changed the father's blank space on the birth certificate.

Johann Georg was from Spital (part of Weitra), Austria, and made his living as a wandering journeyman miller.
In 1824, he married his first wife but she died in childbirth five months later.

The most likely father and bilogical parent of Alois was actually Johann Nepomuk Hiedler, the younger brother of Johann Georg. He was at the time of the impregnation a relatively wealthy, married farmer and his elder brother was lodging with the 42 year old Anna Maria Schickelgruber.
What can I tell ya!
It’s complicated.

Alois' mother Maria died during the sixth year of her marriage, at the age of 51 of ‘consumption’ when Alois was 10 years old. So Johann Nepomuk took in Alois and raised him. The likelihood is because he was in fact Alois' natural father but could not acknowledge this publicly due to being married.

Alternatively Johann Nepomuk took responsibility for Alois and raised him because he was the son of his brother Johann Georg, and Johann Nepomuk knew that Alois was Johann Georg's natural child.

Either way, Alois was the biological son of one of the Hiedler brothers.

FACT: Johann Nepomuk left Alois a considerable portion of his life savings in his will.
FACT: All Alois’ ancestors were Catholics.
FACT: what is ‘simple’ and clear is that the false claim that a Graz Jew by the name of Leopold Frankenberger was the paternal grandfather, has been debunked.
It is a lie! A quite ridiculous one that relies on ignorance.

FACT:
Jews were expelled from Graz in the fifteenth century and were not permitted to return until the 1860s, several decades after Alois was born.

FINAL FACT:
Nazgûl can thus be identified — by his own admissions — as a part of a long ‘jewish collective’ who spread this debunked deception.

CONCLUSION:
People who self-identify as ‘Judisch’ and belong to a collective who spread lies about history (in this instance lies about the founders of the DAP and NSDAP plus lies about Hitler’s great grandparents) definitely DO deserve to be identified as such plus DO warrant criticism for their behaviour. Criticism not because they self-identify as belonging to this abstract, inter-national ‘tribe’ but because of their participation in that collective behaviour.

P.S.
Further proof that a self-named Nazgûl has just been repeating and spreading two lies (‘weaving spells’? ) is this from jewish-controlled wikipedi:

On 10 May 1842, Hiedler married Maria Schicklgruber and became the legal stepfather to her illegitimate five-year-old son, Alois.[citation needed] It was claimed later that Johann Georg had fathered Alois prior to his marriage to Maria, although Alois had been declared illegitimate on his birth certificate and baptism papers.

In June 1876, Johann Georg's brother Johann Nepomuk Hiedler and Alois both returned to Weitra and Johann Nepomuk declared before a Catholic notary that his brother Johann Georg was Alois' biological father, who had abandoned the child as he himself was living in extreme poverty and was unable to raise him, and had handed over his fatherhood responsibilities to himself Johann Nepomuk Hiedler.
With the help of three close relatives, Alois was legitimised, and officially changed his name on 6 January 1877, to Alois Hitler, and the parish priest in Döllersheim where the original birth certificate of Alois resided, then changed the details on the baptismal certificate from "Catholic, Male, Illegitimate" to "Johann Georg Hitler" under his father's name. He was 39 years old and was well known in the community…

Johann Georg Hiedler is one of two people most cited by modern historians as having possibly been the actual paternal grandfather of Adolf Hitler. The other one is Johann Nepomuk Hiedler himself, the younger brother of Johann Georg.

During the Nuremberg trials, a claim was made by Hans Frank that Hitler had commissioned him to investigate Hitler's family in 1930 after a "blackmail letter" had been received from Hitler's nephew, William Patrick Hitler, who allegedly threatened to reveal embarrassing facts about his uncle's ancestry. Frank said that the investigation uncovered evidence that Maria Schicklgruber, Hitler's paternal grandmother, had been working as a cook in the household of a Jewish man named Leopold Frankenberger before she gave birth to Hitler's father, Alois, out of wedlock.
Frank claimed that he had obtained from a relative of Hitler's by marriage a collection of letters between Maria Schicklgruber and a member of the Frankenberger family that discussed a stipend for her after she left the family's employ. According to Frank, Hitler told him that the letters did not prove that the Frankenberger son was his grandfather but rather his grandmother had merely extorted money from Frankenberger by threatening to claim his paternity of her illegitimate child.

Frank accepted this explanation, but added that it was still just possible that Hitler had some Jewish ancestry. But he thought it unlikely because, "from his entire demeanor, the fact that Adolf Hitler had no Jewish blood coursing through his veins seems so clearly evident that nothing more need be said on this."

Given that all Jews had been expelled from the province of Styria (which includes Graz) in the 15th century and were not allowed to return until the 1860s, decades after Alois' birth, scholars such as Ian Kershaw and John Toland dismiss as baseless the Frankenberger hypothesis, which before had only Frank's speculation to support it.
There is no evidence outside of Frank's statements for the existence of a "Leopold Frankenberger" living in Graz in the 1830s, and Frank's story is inaccurate on several points such as the claim that Maria Schicklgruber came from "Leonding near Linz", when in fact she came from the hamlet of Strones near the village of Döllersheim.

[Callafangers]

The reason why you have to emphasise the supposed subversiveness of the Jews, is because you cannot evidence that they are collectively acting, in a secret plot, to elevate themselves above all others.

If a secret plot were happening, Nessie, what would that evidence look like? What's the bar or threshold you would set for "evidence"?

Evidence is eyewitnesses, documents, forensics etc. Evidence of any secretive action, tends to come from whistle blowers, or document leaks, or other exposure. Jewish collectives working to further Jewish interests, are not that hard to find, so there is no great secrecy about them. It is the same with the RC Church.

If Jews were trying for world domination, they have not been very successful. The RC Church, has at times, been very successful.

Whistleblowers are at most anecdotal (which means you would dismiss them) and typically have to do with criminal activity, which Jews frequently circumvent via subversion, i.e. they subvert the political and legal institutions to ensure that their activities are technically considered legal. E.g. what AIPAC does in America is technically legal, silencing Holocaust revisionists is technically legal, etc. That said, there are many instances of the line being crossed, here, such as Israel's repeated violation of international law, of Jonathan Pollard's theft of nuclear material/secrets from the US to Israel, and many other individual examples. The problem is, you will always claim these are isolated incidents, which means you render your position unfalsifiable. This invalidates your position, full-stop.

Jewish collectives in general work out in the open, as seen in their own mission statements. Let's read them again:

The proven and effective voice of organized American Jewry for more than half a century, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations works publicly and behind the scenes to advance the interests of the American Jewish community, sustain broad-based support for Israel and addresses the critical concerns facing world Jewry with US and world leaders, key opinion molders and the public.

The Conference of Presidents is the preeminent forum for diverse segments of the Jewish community to come together in mutual respect to deliberate vital national and international issues, set policy and priorities, deliberate proactive strategies and take collective action.

The Conference is at the vanguard of engaging America’s leaders and the public to:

• advance the U.S.-Israel special relationship, bolster Israel’s security and prosperity and promote prospects for true and lasting peace in the Middle East;
• reinforce links between Jews worldwide, aid endangered Jewish communities and fight anti-Semitism;
• combat terrorism at home and abroad, strengthen domestic security and safeguard American Jewish institutions;
• build support at the United Nations and end the anti-Israel bias;
• defend human rights of Jews and others and build ties to Arab and Muslim countries;
• build cooperation and coalitions with diverse ethnic, religious and civic groups and other sectors of American society;
• foster international cooperation and promote U.S. national interests.

https://conferenceofpresidents.org/about/

Notice that the very first point is to "advance the U.S.-Israel special relationship, bolster Israel’s security and prosperity", and the very last being anything about 'U.S. national interests' (not to mention the mission being stated explicitly as to "to advance the interests of the American Jewish community"), making clear that the latter never supersedes the former. Others are about making social and professional connections between Jews, globally. Is that good for America? We know what "build ties to Arab and Muslim countries" means, since the collective weight of Jewish organizations firmly align to importing infinity third-worlders into the West but NOT into Israel. And we know that "coalitions with diverse ethnic, religious and civic groups" means elevating other groups over white people. All of this is evidenced beyond any dispute, in terms of patterns of Jewish collective behavior, measured by organizational weight and initiatives.

I challenged you earlier to show or list how many powerful Jewish organizations support ending all 'refugee' immigration into the West, or support this immigration into Israel. You showed zero.

These activities are problematic (when understood for their scale and implications) and yet they are stated openly -- no 'whistleblowing' needed. Decades of media control has normalized these endeavors so that the average person does not think to suspect disloyalty to the USA (or to Britain, etc. -- wherever you are at), or is otherwise silenced and marginalized, ignored.

Also, Nessie, I shared this video to the other thread on the Holocaust narrative a week ago:



So frankly, it isn't clear what else you are asking for. Are you not able to see this above video (forget to pay your thinking-loicense)? There are about a dozen rabbis explicitly describing things like how Islam will be used as the "broom of Europe" for Jewish benefit.

[EDIT: Here's another:]



I've also shared this book with you more than once, which has hundreds of examples of uniquely subversive Jewish behavior in America:

https://archive.org/stream/WhenVictimsR ... a_djvu.txt

Here is another book which demonstrates conclusively that a network of Jewish Zionists abused the US political system to create and empower the state of Israel:

https://archive.org/details/weir-alison ... as-_202404

Altogether, it still isn't clear what you are talking about in your request for "evidence" and whistleblowers. All of the evidence that should be expected for any sort of "secret plot" is already abundant, compelling, airtight.

It really seems like you're just refusing to get off the soapbox per some unshakable motives that you hold.

Very weird, slightly sad.