Nessie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 4:23 pm
The RC Church, from its power base in the Vatican City, has been subverting people all over the world, for many centuries. For example, the colonisation and conversion of Central and South America. The native people were often not given any choice, but to stop their existing religious beliefs and convert to Catholicism. The religious conversion of Ireland was not so brutal, but the Church subverted existing religions and customs and imposed its will on the country for the next 1500 or so years.
Yeah but you're bending the interpretation of subversion just a tad, here. Here's the definition:
You're diminishing the 'secrecy' element almost entirely, here [EDIT: also note that the places being 'colonized' could often hardly be said to have had any system or government in-place]. Catholic churches brought in big steeples and priests in obvious attire and could not wait to spread the message and win converts. Jews are not looking to recruit or convert anyone. They do not proselytize. Thus, they quite intentionally remain a foreign element. Add to that that they commonly change their names and portray themselves as loyal patriots to the host nation, all while organizing en masse to redirect (subvert) those interests to instead serve Jewish objectives.
The Catholic church and other European endeavors were also in a period of "winner takes all" global conquest. The purpose of the [Jewish-involved] League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations, was the international agreement to abolish that era for good. Thus, much of your 'colonization' deflection is moot.
Another thing which separates Jewish subversion is its intent. Jews do
not have an inclusive vision of a global future, nor do they value in general the freedom and autonomy of other peoples,
despite claiming that they do. Catholic intentions (and Muslim, Christian, etc.) are out in the open: they intend to convert everyone, and they are honest about it. Jews collectively claim, on the other hand, that they are
solely interested in being noble leaders on a "special" (but certainly not supremacist

) mission from "Hashem" (God) as his 'ambassadors' on Earth. Unfortunately for them, some of their more vocal rabbis and thought leaders have dispelled this myth and made clear that the Talmudic scripture and its interpretations generally or at least frequently align toward a world that involves Jews wiping out an entire race by violence ('Amalek', who many Jews interpret to have been revealed as white Europeans), and ultimately subordinating all nations to serve Jews indefinitely, until these other nations/races eventually die off as well, leaving Jews to reign on the Earth entirely -- the
sefirot finally restored and the
kelipot done away with.
On that note, for those unaware: in traditional kabbalistic thought (Jewish mysticism, widely-embraced among Jews), the early stage of the creation of the universe entailed that a "divine light" ("sefirot") filled various vessels but that these vessels could not contain the light, so they shattered. The shards/fragments of the vessels are known as "kelipot". Both the divine sparks of light (sefirot) which previously filled the vessels and the kelipot became scattered all across the Earth. And Jews (kabbalists) believe that it is their mission to fix this 'disorder' where the sefirot/sparks are obscured or tainted by the kelipot, which involves
elevating the sefirot/sparks above the kelipot, and eventually letting the kelipot wither away, since it was never important to begin with. This is the ideological formulation and justification by which many Jews practice "tikkun olam" -- which translates to "to fix the world". It is their duty to elevate Jews and Jewish interests (sefirot/sparks) above all other people and nations (kelipot). There is no point at which Jews became "elevated enough" in this framework -- they are meant to control everyone and everything on Earth, without exception, forever.
This is the "promise" of a future that Jews yearn for. Ever see orthodox Jews rocking back and forth, seemingly yearning for something, or see Chabad Jews with the 'rebbe', singing "we want Moshiach now!"? This is what they yearn for -- the world, all to themselves.
If this isn't a supremacist, hostile worldview, I don't know what is.