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bombsaway wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:22 am The devil is in the details yes.

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So is this a fair question to ask? Is it fair for us to look at these agencies? 6/10 are explicitly Christian, if we look through this, will we find strong evidence of intent "to engineer more compliant (enslaved) societies" - your term
bombsaway, 62% of the US population is Christian... which means they are actually slightly under-represented in your list of agencies.

Jews, on the other hand are just ~2% of the US population (and even less overseas)... which means for them to appear on the list at all (e.g. HIAS) is surprising.

More importantly: your list is capturing refugee assistance organizations' total intakes by volume, which speaks to organizational capacity and participation -- not to changes in policy and hence the weakening of national defenses (immunity) to such initiatives.

In other words, it isn't just about total volume -- it’s who ensured that there was a refugee program to begin with, and who expanded/protected it when it was challenged by patriots and nationalists. On that dimension (per some AI assistance, since you have now opened that can of worms):
  • U.S. Refugee Act of 1980: Founding and Shaping the Modern System: HIAS was a founding VOLAG (one of nine original agencies) and actively helped draft the Refugee Act itself, lobbying Congress to include broad definitions of refugees and annual admission ceilings. This created the infrastructure for over 3 million resettlements since 1980, enabling surges like Southeast Asian refugees (1980s). (Comparison: While Christian VOLAGs like Church World Service joined later and handle high volumes today, HIAS's role was pivotal in the Act's humanitarian framing, which secular groups like the IRC—founded by Jewish activists—built upon.)
  • International Rescue Committee (IRC) Origins and Global Expansion (1930s–Ongoing): Founded by Jewish intellectuals (e.g., Albert Einstein, Varian Fry) to rescue Europeans from Nazis, the IRC evolved into a major secular VOLAG, resettling hundreds of thousands into the U.S. and Europe. Its Jewish roots influenced early models for crisis response, scaling to operations in 40+ countries. (Comparison: IRC is now secular but outperforms many Christian orgs in innovation; e.g., it resettled more Afghans post-2021 than some Lutheran groups, per U.S. data.)
  • Litigation and Legal Protections in the U.S. (2017–2020): HIAS and IRAP (with Jewish founders and leadership) led lawsuits blocking Trump-era travel bans and admission cuts, preserving tens of thousands of slots (e.g., ~25,000–40,000 annually) that would have been eliminated, including family reunifications. This set precedents for future protections. (Comparison: Christian groups like World Relief filed supportive briefs, but Jewish-led litigation drove the wins; secular orgs like the ACLU amplified but didn't originate these cases.)
  • Pioneering Private/Community Sponsorship Models (1970s–Ongoing): Jewish federations and synagogues pioneered and piloted these in Canada (PSR program, adding ~350,000 admissions since 1978), the UK (Community Sponsorship, scaling to thousands post-2016), and the U.S. (Welcome Corps, 2023, potentially adding 10,000+ slots outside quotas). These create additional streams beyond government ceilings. (Comparison: Christian churches adopted similar models later and sponsor large numbers, but Jewish groups provided the initial proof-of-concept and lobbying, often in smaller but high-impact pilots; secular efforts like Canada's Group of Five are more bureaucratic.)
  • UK Lobbying for Specific Crises (2010s–2020s): World Jewish Relief (WJR), René Cassin, JCORE (Jewish Council for Racial Equality), synagogues, and the Chief Rabbi lobbied the UK government into launching and expanding Syrian (Vulnerable Persons Resettlement Scheme, ~20,000 resettled) and Ukrainian (Homes for Ukraine, ~200,000+ by 2024) schemes, using moral appeals in Parliament. (Comparison: Christian groups like the Salvation Army provided on-ground support, but Jewish advocacy was key in policy pledges; secular NGOs like Refugee Action focused on integration rather than intake expansion.)
  • On-Ground Humanitarian Aid Providing Political Cover (2000s–Ongoing): IsraAid (Israeli-founded) and WJR delivered aid in crises like Greece (2015, aiding ~1 million migrants), Ukraine (2022, supporting 100,000+), and elsewhere (e.g., Rohingya in Bangladesh), giving Western governments data and visibility to justify higher intakes without domestic backlash. (Comparison: Christian orgs like Caritas handle massive aid volumes but less in "hot zones"; secular groups like Médecins Sans Frontières are similar but less tied to policy lobbying.)
  • European Advocacy and EU Policy Influence (1990s–Ongoing): Groups like the European Council on Refugees and Exiles (ECRE, with Jewish-linked members) and PaN (Paideia Network, founded by Barbara Spectre in Sweden) pushed for expanded EU asylum directives, influencing policies that resettled ~500,000+ Syrians (2015–2020). In Germany, Jewish communities lobbied for Merkel's "Wir schaffen das" policy, aiding 1 million+ intakes. (Comparison: Secular EU NGOs like UNHCR partners drive data, while Christian groups focus on family hosting; Jewish roles stand out in human rights framing, often invoking historical parallels.)
  • Canadian Expansions and Global Modeling (1980s–Ongoing): Jewish Immigrant Aid Services (JIAS) and federations shaped Canada's blended visa programs, resettling ~50,000+ from crises like Somalia and Afghanistan, and exporting the model to Australia and New Zealand. (Comparison: Christian orgs like Mennonite Central Committee sponsor many, but Jewish groups innovated the community-led aspects; secular government programs scale it further.)
  • U.S. and Global Crisis Mobilization (1990s–2020s): During Bosnian (1990s, ~100,000 resettled), Somali (ongoing, ~150,000), Afghan (2021–, ~100,000+), and other crises, HIAS, JDC, and synagogue networks mobilized resources and lobbying, often coordinating with Israel-based groups for cross-border aid. (Comparison: Christian VOLAGs like Episcopal Migration Ministries handle placement logistics for larger shares, but Jewish orgs excel in rapid-response advocacy, adding net capacity.)
  • Human Rights Documentation and Agenda-Setting (1970s–Ongoing): Human Rights Watch (co-founded by Jewish leaders like Robert Bernstein and Aryeh Neier) and Amnesty International chapters with Jewish involvement documented abuses, forcing U.S./EU shifts that increased placements (e.g., post-Yugoslavia, adding ~200,000 slots). (Comparison: These are secular but Jewish-rooted; pure Christian advocacy, like Jesuit Refugee Service, is more service-oriented than investigative.)
  • Innovation in Digital and Legal Tools (2010s–Ongoing): IRAP developed apps and legal clinics aiding ~20,000+ refugee applications annually into the West; HIAS's global affiliates influenced UN Global Compact on Refugees (2018), committing nations to higher targets. (Comparison: Secular tech NGOs like Techfugees innovate similarly, but Jewish-led tools focus on legal access; Christian efforts are more community-based.)
In other words, Jewish orgs shaped the rules of the game, not just played on the field. Policy shifts and legal barriers have been the "Rate-limiting steps" (to borrow a term from systems thinking), where Jewish organizations' roles seem least replaceable— they've often been the ones to break through when programs were at risk of collapse (e.g., 2017 U.S. cuts). Christian/secular groups are more interchangeable for day-to-day implementation, as their strengths (volume, data) could theoretically be substituted by governments or other NGOs. Absent Jewish advocacy, Western programs might resemble more restrictive models (e.g., Australia's offshore processing), with far lower magnitudes. Jewish contributions uniquely emphasized legal/moral leverage, making programs more resilient and scalable.
Thank you for helping us get to the bottom of this, bombsaway.

Let's also consider that Christian groups are well-known for humanitarian aid across-the-board, being highly-active in donations, volunteer work, etc., often over-represented in general in these areas. To the contrary, Jewish organized efforts are more intensely and exclusively focused in things like refugee movement, proportionally speaking.

Now why in the hell do you suppose that is? :? :roll:

The bottom-line is that Christians participating in any humanitarian effort (e.g. disaster relief, volunteer work, feeding hungry) is typical of Christians, and given their vast numbers, it is not surprising to see significant participation.

Jews, on the other hand, are a tiny minority, and are not especially known for participating in global humanitarian efforts (e.g. volunteer work) as are Christians. Jews are instead highly, conspicuously concentrated in refugee migrations into the West and, again, NOT into Israel.

Explain away, bombsaway. Remember: you have to address all the evidence, simultaneously. We have now confirmed that:
  • Jewish ideology supports that the West will (and should) be overrun by Islam as the "broom of Israel" (i.e. for Jewish benefit)
  • Jewish organizations are very active participants in these efforts
  • The entire refugee Western migration program would not be anywhere near its current order of magnitude, if not for Jewish efforts
  • These same efforts are totally absent in Israel
It's also confirmed that Jews generally have some future vision of a world that they control, although the details may vary from one denomination to another:
An urgent task shared among religious Jews for many generations into the past has been to “bring Moshiach (Messiah)”.[19] Although the process by which this “bringing” should occur has been interpreted in different ways over time, Jews across denominations now generally agree it is their own efforts that will materially bring about creation of their Moshiach, rather than a truly divine or magical placement of the Moshiach upon the earth by God. Israeli Orthodox Rabbi David Bar-Hayim states:[20]

“If a person believes in and expects a miraculous, supernatural messianic period and messiah, then the question of where he comes from or how he appears need not be asked. The answer is obvious – it’s all miraculous and there’s nothing else to know. But if you do not believe in such a fairy tale story, as Rambam [another name for Maimonides, a philosophical and legal authority in Judaism] did not, as many of the sages did not, and as I do not, then you must ask yourself where this Moshiach comes from, how he arises, and how this historical process plays itself out.

This is precisely what Rambam explains to us. When the Jewish people are successful in establishing a true Jewish form of government headed by an individual who lives according to the Torah, believes in the Torah, and wishes to lead the Jewish people according to its basic fundamental precepts and concepts, when such a person arises and the Jewish people follow him, and he is successful in overcoming the Jewish people’s enemies, then we can begin to assume this is the Moshiach.”

Israeli journalist Yossi Gurvitz describes what he observed in Orthodox Judaism, such as that “bringing Moshiach” is first about subordinating other nations, and only then identifying who Moshiach ultimately is or was, after-the-fact:[21]

“Now, when religious Zionists look at reality, they say: ‘We’ve got a state. We’ve got weapons. We’ve got a Jewish army. This hasn’t happened for 2,000 years. What this means is that God wants us to bring about the Messiah, that God wants us to build the Temple.’ They skip over all the conditions that are imposed by the Talmud on what a Messiah must be, and go back to Maimonides. And Maimonides says, ‘There is no difference between our time and the time of the Messiah, other than the subordination to kingdoms.’ In other words, the only difference between the time of Maimonides – he died in 1204 – and the time of the Messiah, is who is subordinate to whom.’ Are the Jews subordinate to ‘kingdoms,’ to other nations? Or can they subordinate other nations? And that is how Maimonides begins his Book of Kings. He explains what the rules are for a king, what a king can do. It emerges from the belief that, yes, there can be a king. You don’t have to first have a temple. You don’t need God to come down from the sky and point at someone and say, ‘That’s the Messiah.’ You can have a king, and if he is victorious, then he’ll also be the Messiah.”

Reform Judaism (a more liberal form of Judaism) rejects the notion of an individual Messiah and works instead toward a Messianic Age, still with the view that it is Jewish efforts – and not divine intervention – that will bring about this Messianic shift:[22]

“Partners with God in tikkun olam (repairing the world), we are called to help bring the messianic age nearer. We seek dialogue and joint action with people of other faiths in the hope that together we can bring peace, freedom, and justice to our world. We are obligated to pursue tzedek (justice and righteousness), narrow the gap between the affluent and the poor, act against discrimination and oppression, pursue peace, welcome the stranger, protect the earth’s biodiversity and natural resources, and redeem those in physical, economic, or spiritual bondage. In so doing, we reaffirm social action and social justice as a central prophetic focus of traditional Reform Jewish belief and practice.

In the 19th century, the earliest Reform Rabbis rejected all end of days beliefs as superstitious and anti-intellectual. They made a radical change: instead of praying for a Messiah, we now pray for a Messianic Age.”

Whereas there are differing opinions among Jews – especially of differing denominations – about the details in prophecies of Judaism and the Messianic Age, two views in particular are especially common, with most religious Jews (and many non-religious) accepting some version of at least one or both of the following:

Jews will have a special, privileged position as they come to rule (or heavily influence) the world from Israel.
The entire world will become one, globalized nation as a result of Jewish efforts.

Evidence for the prevalence of these views among Jews and Judaism is manifold. Rabbi Harry Waton was a prolific author, social philosopher and Torah scholar whose works promoting Marxism gained significant attention and readership in the early 20th Century. In 1939, he stated:[23]

“The Jews will become the masters over the whole earth and they will subordinate to themselves all nations, not by material power, not by brute force, but by light, knowledge, understanding, humanity, peace, justice and progress. […] It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism; all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews. The Jews should realize that Jehovah no longer dwells in heaven, but he dwells in us right here on earth; we must no longer look up to Jehovah as above us and outside of us, but we must see him right within us.”

A statement from Zionist leader Nahum Sokolow in 1922 further highlights the overlapping motives of a globalized world, and Israel (and Jews) enjoying a special position therein; suggesting the League of Nations (predecessor of the United Nations) was a Jewish-created steppingstone toward Jerusalem as a site of global significance:[24]

“The League of Nations is a Jewish idea, and Jerusalem will some day become the capital of the world’s peace.”

Rav Michael Laitman, esteemed Kabbalist and widely respected within the Jewish community, in 2019, indicated the “special role” Jews have is one which involves driving the entire world to becoming one single, globalized nation:[25]

“[…] eventually, [Jews] will understand, they have a special role, that they have to show the entire world how to connect, and to show them the method of connection – the force of connection – to introduce this upper force to them, for everyone to use it and become one nation.”

Overall, it can be reasonably established that there are large contingents of religious Jews who believe their efforts on earth to “bring Moshiach” will lead to a literal, material change in global society, which ultimately benefits the Jewish people. Jews are “called to help bring the messianic age nearer” through various political and social initiatives, and their power may be leveraged to that end.[26]

https://codoh.com/library/document/ai-t ... visionism/
Regarding Jewish global ambitions, also see: https://gab.com/White__Rabbit/posts/114106623378691858

All in all, your attempts at "damage control" to conceal these concerning facts are futile. Any thinking person will be troubled by this and, without 'Holocaust' guilt, will naturally resist these organized Jewish attempts to control and subvert nations.
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Let me rephrase, what organizations, activists, lawmakers, are EG guided by intent "to engineer more compliant (enslaved) societies" and what evidence do you have for that?
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bombsaway wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:04 am Let me rephrase, what organizations, activists, lawmakers, are EG guided by intent "to engineer more compliant (enslaved) societies" and what evidence do you have for that?
Read "The Art of War" or watch this lecture:



Fragmenting a nation, deconstructing its unity, sowing chaos therein, equates to weakening it -- making it ripe for further subversion, destruction, conquest. When people can no longer rely on their neighbors, it is them alone versus the state. Resistance becomes futile or impossible, compliance is all that is left.
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Stubble wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:36 am
Cowboy wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:37 pm [...]
EXCELLENT post Sir. Well done!
Thank you! I don't know how it can get more concrete than that
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Callafangers wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:10 am
bombsaway wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:04 am Let me rephrase, what organizations, activists, lawmakers, are EG guided by intent "to engineer more compliant (enslaved) societies" and what evidence do you have for that?
Read "The Art of War" or watch this lecture:



Fragmenting a nation, deconstructing its unity, sowing chaos therein, equates to weakening it -- making it ripe for further subversion, destruction, conquest. When people can no longer rely on their neighbors, it is them alone versus the state. Resistance becomes futile or impossible, compliance is all that is left.
What is this evidence of exactly? Why is the KGB relevant?
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bombsaway wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:02 am
Callafangers wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:10 am Fragmenting a nation, deconstructing its unity, sowing chaos therein, equates to weakening it -- making it ripe for further subversion, destruction, conquest. When people can no longer rely on their neighbors, it is them alone versus the state. Resistance becomes futile or impossible, compliance is all that is left.
What is this evidence of exactly? Why is the KGB relevant?
Kindly stop feigning confusion, bombsaway. A network of people sharing common ideology with supremacist and anti-Western (or 'anti-Edom') components going out of their way to facilitate mass immigration leading to instability (and non-resistance to subversive schemes) in Western nations is cause enough for concern that the effect of such initiatives were precisely intended as such.

If you cannot follow along, you are not worth the time to explain further.
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bombsaway wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:03 pm …there [isn’t] any evidence that the point of bringing in eg refugees is to "shift the demographics" -
…Even increasing diversity and multi culturalism, which is rare argument for immigration, is seen as a positive thing, not a means of control.
…What you're saying is possible, but just like resettlement of millions, a totally speculative reality with no justification other than "it makes sense to me" .
This is your usual denial of reality, BAway
Whether it is motivated by wilful ignorance or deliberate deceit, only you know BA.

I presume you are denying it simply because you don’t like it… and so don’t want anyone else to know about it.

Here is “evidence” from their own mouths/pens/keyboards.

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Regarding the predominant jewish role in enforced multi-culturalism, are you seriously claiming you are unaware of Barbra Spectre’s admissions?

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Callafangers wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:01 pm
Nessie wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:57 am If you only search for Jewish refugee groups, that is all you would find, which, like the 6 million, makes you think that it is a stand-out. How many other refugee groups are there?
I have shown you dozens of Jewish refugee-importing groups. Can you show even half that many Jewish anti-refugee groups, let alone ones of similar size and funding? Or, can you show me dozens of Jewish refugee-importing groups in Israel (i.e. promoting refugee traffic into Israel), rather than in Western nations? Can you show me dozens of major refugee-importing groups that have zero Jewish leadership or influences/funding? You're claiming that I have had 'tunnel vision' but this is merely your assumption, and a projection. You assume there must be many other refugee-importing groups of similar scale and importance as these Jewish ones, yet you hesitate to identify and list them.

I've shown you mine... where's yours?
Yet again, I am pointing out a flaw in your investigation and you ignore that flaw. You claim that Jews are over represented when it comes to running immigrant charities. You base that on searching only for the Jewish ones and then you cannot see the flaw! Your demand that I do your work for you, is indicative of how you do not want to look for evidence to the contrary. You have your belief and that is the end. No wonder you will fall for an obvious hoax.
Nessie wrote:You are obsessed by Jews, but you post that there is a rise in the number of Muslims moving to the UK, which you even try to blame on the Jews!
Nessie, you keep showcasing your ignorance as though it counts as evidence of something. :P How did so many Muslims become refugees or otherwise determined to move into the West? The "War on Terror" has played a foremost role. And how did that begin? It began with a heavily-Jewish Neoconservative movement in the USA post-9/11 (e.g. PNAC, Richard Perle, Philip Zelikow, Dov Zakheim, etc.). Even if one dismisses the evidence of Zionist-Jewish hands behind 9/11 itself, there is absolutely no question of the Jewish influences behind the "War on Terror".
Why would Jewish people want to fill the UK, where they find wealth and a degree of tolerance, with Muslims? Yesterday, a Syrian migrant attacked a Synagogue in Manchester.
Nessie wrote:You If Jews really were in control to the level you suggest, would they not be preventing Muslim immigration? Do you not think that Jews would rather not, that the UK, which is supportive towards Jews and Israel, became a majority Muslim?
There is no point to you challenging this -- it is evidenced that Jews and their organizations have a remarkable pattern of supporting Muslim/refugee immigration into the West. There is no debate, here. None, nada.
There is a debate, over your methodology, where you cherry pick and search for evidence in your favour.
Jewish extremists are likely interested in subverting the West since the West consists of global superpowers and pose the greatest threat to Jewish supremacy, if left sovereign. Your theory about Jews desiring to 'prevent Muslim immigration' is ridiculous and contrary to all evidence -- Western nations are weakened through the dilution of their socio-cultural and politico-ideological alignment, which is exactly what happens when you import millions of people who share no common values, history, nature, or loyalty.
The West provides the bulk of the support for Israel, that allows it to survive in the Middle East. Destroying the West and making it Muslim, would just make Israel's survival less likely.

The increase in migration to the West, is driven by geopolitical and socioeconomic factors, from war to climate change. You ignore those factors and blame the Jews.
Once again: these same initiatives are not being implemented in Israel (so we can't claim it's about Jewish 'love' for these poor refugees), and Jewish interest in importing refugees into the West is indisputable, thoroughly evidenced via consistent patterns in major Jewish organizations and funding streams as well as in the messages constantly put forth in Jewish-owned media conglomerates and business networks.

This may be new information for you, Nessie, but you're going to have a very hard time if you strive to challenge the basic facts of the matter. You are better off arguing that Jewish power is simply degrading the West and subverting all nations because they love us -- a true "light among nations"... :?
What is the benefit, to Israel, to have a Muslim West?
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Cowboy wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:37 pm ...

This storyline is an excellent example of how Jews use their power in our political systems to create change that benefits Jews and Israel.

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Wait until you see what the Chinese, the Roman Catholic church, Tesla and all sorts of countries, organisations and businesses get up to, to increase their wealth and influence. Why do you single out Jews? Should all not be criticised for the way they act?

You have fallen into the same cherry picking, confirmation bias trap, that so-called revisionists fall into constantly. The same happens when so-called revisionist argue that the 6 million death toll was predicted before the war and then they cherry pick pre-war news articles that talk about 6 million at risk in Europe. They ignore all the other articles that reference different numbers of millions and that many of the articles were about Jews at risk from the Soviets!

Your double standard and hypocrisy is evident.
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bombsaway wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:51 pm
Callafangers wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:19 pm Let's agree it is happening before we delve into the "why". If it is happening, then it isn't by any mere circumstance nor coincidence, as no such conditions are sufficient to explain it.
Demographic change?
There are a bunch of reasons for why it's happening. Your reason is an entirely speculative one.
A random Rabbi saying something does not mean this is representative of elite policy.
Oh yeah?

Can you explain this admission then?
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Some food for thought;

If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 6:16 am
Cowboy wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:37 pm ...

This storyline is an excellent example of how Jews use their power in our political systems to create change that benefits Jews and Israel.

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Wait until you see what the Chinese, the Roman Catholic church, Tesla and all sorts of countries, organisations and businesses get up to, to increase their wealth and influence. Why do you single out Jews? Should all not be criticised for the way they act?
Is the Roman Catholic Church lobbying 90% of US congress?
Is Tesla?
Is the Chinese?

How many wars has the United States gone and fought for the benefit of the Catholic Church?
For China?

The issue that we have is Jews is that their primarily loyalty lies with Israel because Israel is the Jewish state. Powerful American Jews are not putting the interests of America over the interests of Israel and the Jewish people. We don't see this problem with any other ethnic group besides probably Muslims, but Muslims don't have a fraction of the power and influence that Jews do in the political system. This problem also extrapolates to Europe, but I'm an American, so I focus on what's best for my country, and this arrangement between us and Israel is not working out for us.

I rightly criticize any foreign influence that is occurring in our political system, but more often than not it seems to always be coming from Jews. Wealth and influence are the crux of how the political system is affected. If you have those two things, then you are able to get what you want politically to serve your interests. Jews do a very good job at acquiring these because they work as a group to help each other and lift each other up. We also see this with Indians who come to America on visas, especially in the tech world. We also see this with Muslims over in Europe.

I've noticed in the year and a half that I've been on this is that when facts are presented about Jewish influence, the response is always whataboutism. "What about the money from Qatar? What about the Chinese? What about the Catholics?" There is never a real rebuttal presented when the issue is presented, rather just obfuscation and trying to make it seem like it's just another thing that's happening, or that it's the same thing other groups are doing. It's never "here's why Jews don't have as much influence as you say."

I actually don't think that just deporting all of the Jews is the righteous thing to do, because I see that as somewhat cruel. However, there are a lot of people out there that do believe that is actually the only solution to the problem, and the more that the interests of Israel are put first thanks to Jews the more people will reflect that sentiment. That's why they need to be disempowered and prevented from being able to influence out countries to the extent that they do now. Really, for their own good. We need people in charge who are going to use the political system for the benefit of my country and my people, not for their country and their people. There is a political solution to the predicament that we are facing, and I hope the peaceful route can be taken before patience truly runs thin.

When a friend of Xi Jinping or the Pope takes over the most popular social media platform in the world, please do let me know.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 6:08 am The West provides the bulk of the support for Israel, that allows it to survive in the Middle East. Destroying the West and making it Muslim, would just make Israel's survival less likely.
:lol:

This is your most laughable take yet. These groups are engineering chaos, not building Islamic states. When you import a certain number of people of opposing values, you have chaos (or even civil war). It isn't about 'making it [the West] Muslim' nor about limiting its military/global power and influence. It's about making it more susceptible to subversion by those groups and organizations (often Jewish) already equipped/positioned to do so. This means more power/influence that is good for 'Israel's survival', not less.
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What's like your smoking gun piece of evidence here?

With the Holocaust, for comparison, I might reference the Goebbels diary where he speaks of the liquidation of 60% of Poland's Jews.
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Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations

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bombsaway wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 6:03 pm What's like your smoking gun piece of evidence here?

With the Holocaust, for comparison, I might reference the Goebbels diary where he speaks of the liquidation of 60% of Poland's Jews.
Ah yes, the same diary where he makes absolutely clear that his use of "liquidation" doesn't mean 'extermination' (see his 30 May 1942 entry).

Anyway, what do you mean "smoking gun piece of evidence"? Is this an effort to diminish a clear convergence of evidence, bombsaway? If you're asking for one of the bits of evidence I find concerning (and compelling), I think Barbara Spectre's admissions are pretty clear-cut. I also think the lack of pro-refugee organizations in Israel (and the stark contrast of this to Jewish efforts in the West) is also pretty compelling. I also think the way in which all of this aligns with Jewish 'prophecies' as admitted by many rabbinical/Jewish authorities is quite compelling. So, altogether, it's kind of difficult to pick just one.
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