I get that Duke's interest is in defending white people and nations but I hope people of all races/ethnic backgrounds can see the problem of subversive networks so driven toward (and capable of) shifting the demographics of entire nations in ways that are intended to engineer more compliant (enslaved) societies. This is disgusting behavior, and dangerous for all people and nations, any way you flip it. People that participate in such subversive actions (even through complacency) lack empathy and cannot be trusted in any kind of transaction.
I think the issue is the stuff in underline has no evidence, nor is there any evidence that the point of bringing in eg refugees is to "shift the demographics" - rather the evidence is it is done for humanitarian. Even increasing diversity and multi culturalism, which is rare argument for immigration, is seen as a positive thing, not a means of control. Politically there are entities that want open borders (mostly libertarians like the Kochs and politicians looking to cement power or shore up future bases). What you're saying is possible, but just like resettlement of millions, a totally speculative reality with no justification other than "it makes sense to me" .Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:04 pmI get that Duke's interest is in defending white people and nations but I hope people of all races/ethnic backgrounds can see the problem of subversive networks so driven toward (and capable of) shifting the demographics of entire nations in ways that are intended to engineer more compliant (enslaved) societies. This is disgusting behavior, and dangerous for all people and nations, any way you flip it. People that participate in such subversive actions (even through complacency) lack empathy and cannot be trusted in any kind of transaction.
Let's agree it is happening before we delve into the "why". If it is happening, then it isn't by any mere circumstance nor coincidence, as no such conditions are sufficient to explain it. It is therefore motivated, so one has to question what exactly these motivations are. Fortunately, Judaism isn't a 100% secretive cult -- we can see what their common ideological strain(s) are (at least in general or by consensus), given these are published and discussed (sometimes openly) by rabbinical authorities, and based in the Talmud. There are numerous admissions of exactly that, e.g.:bombsaway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:03 pm I think the issue is the stuff in underline has no evidence, nor is there any evidence that the point of bringing in eg refugees is to "shift the demographics" - rather the evidence is it is done for humanitarian. Even increasing diversity and multi culturalism, which is rare argument for immigration, is seen as a positive thing, not a means of control. Politically there are entities that want open borders (mostly libertarians like the Kochs and politicians looking to cement power or shore up future bases). What you're saying is possible, but just like resettlement of millions, a totally speculative reality with no justification other than "it makes sense to me" .
Let's examine the claim you make that Jewish influence is "grossly exaggerated". I'll lay out a recent set of developments that are currently happening in the United States.Nessie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 6:32 amThe Christian UK, with its aristocracy, upper class, wealthy, connected, powerful institutions, many of which have been in place for many centuries, is not at risk from its Jewish citizens. You are an anti-Semite, who grossly exaggerates Jewish influence. Remember, the UK has no denial laws.Callafangers wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:55 pmYou do understand this is an exemplary fallacy, correct? The fact that it is still possible to make wages and have a family and friends does not challenge in the slightest the notion that your nation's key institutions and policies are being subverted. And the key concern regarding Jewish influences is that they are (1) vastly disproportionate, and (2) aligned toward ideological objectives that are evidently at odds with the best interests of the national bloodlines. You can say the UK is still Christian in its history and heritage but this is less so than has ever been the case for the last millenia, given many major cities now increasingly overrun by foreign occupants (often Muslim, carried in via Jewish organizational initiatives and global activism).Nessie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:03 pm I am not under attack from Jews. They have had no influence over me, my life choices, my wealth, occupation, family, where I live or friends. I come from one of the most powerful and influential countries in the world, which is Christian in its history and heritage. Jewish influence is minimal.
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While the question of Jewish subversive activities is an important one which I think should be discussed rather frankly, it must be emphasized that Jews are not the only group engaged in such activities. Even the NSDAP recognized this, given their stance toward freemasonry, certain Catholic groups, and their application of the concept of 'subhuman' as potentially applicable even to full-blooded Germans. People of poor character (e.g. subject to bribes) or depraved and ambitious ideology exist in many forms, all of which must be understood and guarded against.
The CIA was not fully Jewish, the Allied governments and institutions poisoning the public consciousness during and post WW2 were also not entirely Jewish. Communists are often non-Jewish. Many people participated in subversive campaigns for any number of reasons. I do not mean to portray subversion as an exclusively-Jewish practice... That said, it is when mentioning the Jewish element that the greatest (and most disproportionate) amount of resistance and retaliation is observed. Pointing out communist/freemasonic/etc subversion is generally allowable in any social or even professional setting... but so much as hinting at the notion of Jewish subversion is punished terribly, almost everywhere. This alone warrants special attention to the Jewish element, counteracting the systemic resistance.
Demographic change? There are a bunch of reasons for why it's happening. Your reason is an entirely speculative one. A random Rabbi saying something does not mean this is representative of elite policy.Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:19 pm Let's agree it is happening before we delve into the "why". If it is happening, then it isn't by any mere circumstance nor coincidence, as no such conditions are sufficient to explain it.
That's a fallacy. We can trace the activism and initiatives (and funding) which led to the present conditions. Do you care to list other pro-refugee organizations totally free of Jewish funding, influence, or involvement? I posed the same challenge to Nessie. Will you step up?bombsaway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:51 pmDemographic change? There are a bunch of reasons for why it's happening. Your reason is an entirely speculative one.Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:19 pm Let's agree it is happening before we delve into the "why". If it is happening, then it isn't by any mere circumstance nor coincidence, as no such conditions are sufficient to explain it.
The fallacy is your notion that Jews funding pro refugee organizations could only happen for one reason. That one reason is not evidenced, the others are lol. This is where the conspiratorial/speculative logic is really necessary.Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:59 pmThat's a fallacy. We can trace the activism and initiatives (and funding) which led to the present conditions. Do you care to list other pro-refugee organizations totally free of Jewish funding, influence, or involvement? I posed the same challenge to Nessie. Will you step up?bombsaway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:51 pmDemographic change? There are a bunch of reasons for why it's happening. Your reason is an entirely speculative one.Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:19 pm Let's agree it is happening before we delve into the "why". If it is happening, then it isn't by any mere circumstance nor coincidence, as no such conditions are sufficient to explain it.
Political organizing and activism is effective, otherwise people would not be investing in it. Jewish organizations are taking the lead when it comes to refugees into Western nations (while also doing the opposite for Israel). This is not 'demographic change' anymore than me killing your dog is 'animal control'.
You're stating the exact opposite of what is true, here, then adding an 'lol' to the end of it to feign confidence. Typical bombsaway.
When Jews came to America in droves in the late 19th century/early 20th century, they were afraid of being persecuted again as they had been throughout history. Jews are a distinct people with their own genetics, behaviors, religion, etc. They are different from Europeans, who are mostly Christian. Since Jews are different, they were unwelcome in European societies because they behaved differently and were viewed as a net negative to European societies. Whether you think that their persecution was justifiable or not isn't relevant, because it happened.bombsaway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:07 amThe fallacy is your notion that Jews funding pro refugee organizations could only happen for one reason. That one reason is not evidenced, the others are lol. This is where the conspiratorial/speculative logic is really necessary.Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:59 pmThat's a fallacy. We can trace the activism and initiatives (and funding) which led to the present conditions. Do you care to list other pro-refugee organizations totally free of Jewish funding, influence, or involvement? I posed the same challenge to Nessie. Will you step up?
Political organizing and activism is effective, otherwise people would not be investing in it. Jewish organizations are taking the lead when it comes to refugees into Western nations (while also doing the opposite for Israel). This is not 'demographic change' anymore than me killing your dog is 'animal control'.
The devil is in the details yes.Callafangers wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:37 amYou're stating the exact opposite of what is true, here, then adding an 'lol' to the end of it to feign confidence. Typical bombsaway.
I've provided you the evidence that Jewish organizational strength is collectively aligned in one clear direction, regarding refugees brought into the West. Follow the money, follow the networks -- any way you cut it, it's there. These same organizations do not operate in Israel, nor do comparable organizations (pro-refugee) exist there. This is confirmation against your view that some Jewish cultural element supports refugees into more well-off nations out of some religious or ideological doctrine of benevolence.
You provide no other explanation that holds water and so all you have is your bare insistence that I've made an assumption or jumped to some conclusion. Yet despite your deflection, it remains clear that the only rational interpretation of the evidence is the one I have outlined here and which others have supported.
Without the 'Holocaust' as a constant shield, it's likely most people would have already heard these same arguments and accepted them many years ago.