How much help did the Nazis get?

[Nessie]

What's the biggest problem with deportation? Germans were also deported, and that doesn't mean they call it genocide. If you think it's a tragedy, then it was indeed for the Jews. What's the problem with us admitting it? Israel currently doesn't consider deporting Palestinians to the Arab world genocide, as they're suggesting internally.

No one is claiming the Nazis were angels from heaven to liberate humanity, if that's what you think.

You are missing the points.

1 - that the Nazis got so much assistance explains how the Holocaust became the size it was. Some countries joined in with the killings, most joined in with identification, registering and arrest, as many benefitted from the seizure of property.

2 - so-called revisionists like to portray the Holocaust as a hoax attacking Germans, but that ignores the admissions made across Europe by other nations, admitting to their various responsibilities. It makes the hoax even more unlikely, as it increases the number of people who had to fake their roles in it.

[borjastick]

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive...

[Nessie]

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive...

Why do the Dutch support a hoax, that has them as the nation with the second highest death rate of its Jewish citizens and admit to many Dutch people collaborating with the Nazis, assisting with arrests and transports, even in 1944, when there were rumours of mass murder?

Why do the Latvians support a hoax, by admitting to auxiliary soldiers and even citizens, joining with the EG, shooting Jewish Latvians?

[TlsMS93]

What do you define as the spokespeople for these countries? Government? What is their intention in exonerating the regimes of the time? Many benefit from tarnishing their own country's image to keep the people constrained by nationalist movements.

[borjastick]

What do you define as the spokespeople for these countries? Government? What is their intention in exonerating the regimes of the time? Many benefit from tarnishing their own country's image to keep the people constrained by nationalist movements.

There was no help or aid direct or indirect from these countries to Germany in either their war effort or the holocaust. This is just another way of blocking up and constipating this website by the idiots who somehow believe that 6m joos were deaded by the Germans. That's 6m who didn't exist in gas chambers that cannot be shown. Unlike Nessie who could be shown...the door.

Don't rise to his bait. Don't engage with an idiot. Don't accept the non stop challenge he lays down in interminably dull sidebar comments and topics. If he had the proof of mass murder in the camps he would present it but as per all the other zionist lovers they talk big and never deliver.

If you want to understand how Hitler felt about them joos just look at israel today and what it is doing to Palestine and how the backlash against dem isaraelis and other joos will grow and grow, and of course they will blame everyone else and never look in the mirror.

I was watching the Spanish bike race yesterday, called the Vuelta I think, and all the way up the mountain climb the roads were awash with FREE PALESTINE slogans and people at the road side waving Palestine flags. Oops israel.

[Nessie]

What do you define as the spokespeople for these countries? Government? What is their intention in exonerating the regimes of the time? Many benefit from tarnishing their own country's image to keep the people constrained by nationalist movements.

I can speak about the Netherlands and Latvia, where various museums all admit to their responsibility. Online, I would point to Wikipedia, that describes the various assistances each nation provided, which nationals, official or otherwise can challenge and edit, but that has not happened. Online histories such as USHMM also have articles about national assistance during the Holocaust. A simple google search finds that at some point or another, a government official has aplogised for the national role in the Holocaust.

[Nessie]

What do you define as the spokespeople for these countries? Government? What is their intention in exonerating the regimes of the time? Many benefit from tarnishing their own country's image to keep the people constrained by nationalist movements.

There was no help or aid direct or indirect from these countries to Germany in either their war effort or the holocaust. ...

Are you denying that Latvians joined in with the shooting of Jews?

[borjastick]

What do you define as the spokespeople for these countries? Government? What is their intention in exonerating the regimes of the time? Many benefit from tarnishing their own country's image to keep the people constrained by nationalist movements.

There was no help or aid direct or indirect from these countries to Germany in either their war effort or the holocaust. ...

Are you denying that Latvians joined in with the shooting of Jews?

Here we go again, another direct example of obfuscation and nonsense from the Nonsense Purveyor in chief Herr Nessie. He starts this by naming major European countries who he thinks helped the Germans in the holocaust (Spoiler alert they didn't) and then talks about Latvia, an irrelevant little place in the best of ways, and thinks he is adding to his topic and points.

Ignore. Ignore. Ignore.

[Nessie]

There was no help or aid direct or indirect from these countries to Germany in either their war effort or the holocaust. ...

Are you denying that Latvians joined in with the shooting of Jews?

Here we go again, another direct example of obfuscation and nonsense from the Nonsense Purveyor in chief Herr Nessie. He starts this by naming major European countries who he thinks helped the Germans in the holocaust (Spoiler alert they didn't) and then talks about Latvia, an irrelevant little place in the best of ways, and thinks he is adding to his topic and points.

Ignore. Ignore. Ignore.

I have visited the Museum of Occupation in Riga and the Riga Ghetto museum and both admit that Latvians joined with the EG, shooting Jews.

https://www.het.org.uk/news-and-events/ ... ult-legacy

"...substantial evidence including a series of personal accounts and confirmation received from the trial of Adolf Eichmann, supports that unknown numbers of Latvian Waffen SS soldiers acting as auxillary police were involved in the murder of Jews between 1941 and 1942. Nearly 67,000 Jews, 90 percent of Latvia’s pre-war Jewish population, were killed in 1941-42.
What is striking and often shamefully forgotten is the fact that not one of the numerous Latvian killers who collaborated with the Nazis has been brought to justice since Latvia obtained its independence. Some of the individuals who joined the Waffen SS in 1943 had already been part of the 16 auxillary police (SD) battalions. Some had been members of the ‘Arajs Team’, comprising up to 1,500 Latvian men, notorious as ghetto executioners."

It is the same with the Holocaust Museum in Amsterdam. The Dutch admit that the police and civil service were very cooperative, resulting in a high arrest rate, such that they had the second highest death rate.

https://www.het.org.uk/ambassadors/abou ... etherlands

"Before the war, there were approximately 140,000 Jews in the Netherlands. By the end of the war, 107,000 had been deported, 102,000 were murdered, and many remaining Jewish citizens went into hiding, were married to non-Jews and therefore not deported, or fled abroad...most government officials stayed when Germany invaded, later working under the Nazi administration headed by Arthur Seyss-Inquart. Other bodies also worked with the Nazis, with the Dutch police actively assisting the Nazi authorities in rounding-up Jews, and the Dutch National Railway Company playing an active part in transporting Jews to Westerbork."