Callafangers wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:22 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:22 pm
3) Jews themselves were unaware to the extermination plan throughout the war and continued to fall for the fake shower trick for over three years. This would imply that although the Zionist orgs "knew" in 1942, they were unable to inform their own people. This includes the Hungarian Jews in 1944.
That, in part, explains how the Nazis were able to get Hungarian and other Jews to enter the Kremas, in 1944, thinking they were going for a shower. Not all were aware, or they were aware but thought it was just rumour. The other part of the explanation is Nazi planning. Tired, hungry, disorientated people arrive on packed trains, to be greeted by armed guards, dogs, in a huge camp, where fellow Jews told them they were going to be showered.
So... if I am hearing abundant rumors of gas-showers, and I'm in a big line of thousands of people, and there's a big smelly furnace where Jews going in clearly are not coming out, I'm going to just chill there (for hours or days, plenty of time to think about it) because there's dogs and 3-4 guards? And not just at a single instance but over and over again, thousands upon thousands with no resistance?
Your constant misrepresentation is why you fall for your own lies. You express incredulity at witness claims about incredible violence and cruelty towards Jews in the lines for the selections and gas chambers, especially the killing of children and then you flip to expressing incredulity about a calm line. You under represent how many guards there were at the camp and you miss out that the people lining up for "showers" were naked, and many were elderly, women and children. Even the men were exhausted, starved and dehydrated from the journey.
Your fantasy versions help you to sustain your disbelief, as you have NO EVIDENCE!!!
It seems Archie is pointing out the stark disparity of the alleged increasing certainty of "six million" when, simultaneously, Jews in general were able to be fooled by the many thousands at a time, without even the slightest modicum of resistance. This is despite it being well-known that information traveled very effectively through Jewish and communist networks, once "exposed". There is every reason to believe Jews would have not just vague, nebulous rumors but detailed descriptions of whatever had made it out by that time.
Seems a little strange, no?
Have you any EVIDENCE that fears expressed by a Jewish group in the USA, reached rural Hungarian Jews, in May 1944, as the transports to A-B began?
And did all their fellow Jews tell them, "you're just gonna be showered"? None ever whispered, "it's a trick, fight back!"? It certainly doesn't seem so, given the missing records of massive staffing of German guards and corresponding incident reports for subduing such resistance efforts.
I dunno, Nessie. It's hard to buy what you're selling here. Just sayin'.
Fight back, with what? You are back to relying on your incredulity. You cannot believe it so, therefore it did not happen. How many times do you need to be reminded that is a logical fallacy?