Archaeological Evidence of Mass Graves at Treblinka II

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So, you were conflating and extrapolating, then when I accused you of that, you denied you were doing it, and now you are making the same claim, again, got it.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:25 am So, you were conflating and extrapolating, then when I accused you of that, you denied you were doing it, and now you are making the same claim, again, got it.
You are just bitter, because I have proved there is enough space inside TII, for there to have been multiple, 11 or so according to witnesses and geophysical evidence, mass graves, containing c850,000 corpses.
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Point to the 2 hectare 7 meter deep burial pit on the map...
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:48 am Point to the 2 hectare 7 meter deep burial pit on the map...
The 2 hectares is the area now covered by the main memorial, around which geophysics traced graves marked as G36 and G50-54. I do not know whereabouts, in that area, the 1945 Poles excavated the test pits, including where they dug down to 7m before they found undisturbed ground.
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Nessie wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:55 am
Stubble wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:48 am Point to the 2 hectare 7 meter deep burial pit on the map...
The 2 hectares is the area now covered by the main memorial, around which geophysics traced graves marked as G36 and G50-54. I do not know whereabouts, in that area, the 1945 Poles excavated the test pits, including where they dug down to 7m before they found undisturbed ground.
Nessie is denying this proven historical fact:
It is alleged in orthodox historiography that, during WW II, hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of corpses were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the one hundred graves / cremation pits that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these sites, in which verified human remains have been tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY FIVE PEOPLE.

And this one as well:
It can be, and Greg Gerdes has, using legal standards applied in U.S. courts, PROVEN that the above mentioned “huge mass grave discoveries” are fraudulent charades, the Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II mass murder / holocaust allegations are false, and the orthodox holocaust story did not happen as alleged.
NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE - PROVES - NO MASS MURDER
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Nessie wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:55 am they dug down to 7m before they found undisturbed ground.
Soviet bombing and shelling range remember.
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Nazgul wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:08 am
Nessie wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:55 am they dug down to 7m before they found undisturbed ground.
Soviet bombing and shelling range remember.
That cannot have caused the rectangular and often liner finds by geophysics. Shallow irregular ground disturbances are attributed to the use of explosives.
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here is an excellent video from Rumble on the Treblinka alleged BBQ of bodies I highly recommend

Link:
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Here is another you may be interested in

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ConfusedJew wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:44 am Treblinka II was a death camp located northeast of Warsaw and operated from July 1942 to October 1943. Beginning in the summer of 1942, bodies were buried in mass graves, dug with mechanical excavators... After the war, Polish forensic teams found mass graves filled with burnt human remains.
Well then:
VIII - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; If “huge mass graves” containing tons of human remains really were “forensically proven” to exist at Treblinka II - via bona fide, verifiably honest, and conclusively documented archaeology - then such “scientific proof” would be considered credible and convincing evidence in a U.S. court of law - ??

H - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Mass graves have actually been discovered by archaeologists / forensic investigators at Treblinka II - ??

I - Can you provide credible and convincing evidence that mass graves have actually been discovered by archaeologists / forensic investigators at Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

J - Is there a preponderance of credible and convincing evidence that mass graves have actually been discovered by archaeologists / forensic investigators at Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

K - Can it be conclusively proven that mass graves have actually been discovered by archaeologists / forensic investigators at Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

L - Is it a fact that mass graves have actually been discovered by archaeologists / forensic investigators at Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

M - Can you conclusively prove that archaeologists / forensic investigators have actually located / proven the existence of mass graves at one or more of the following camps: Treblinka II - Yes. - or - No. - ??

5 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__

10 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

20 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.
Maps to be used to answer the above questions can be found here:

https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=229 ... count=2843
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Nessie wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:16 am Links to evidence here;

Caroline Sturdy-Colls Thesis and Report

https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/35 ... s12PhD.pdf

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/j.ctt21h4xwg.13.pdf

Mattogno & Graff, see page 66 onwards, for the Soviet and Polish site examinations, 1945.

https://archive.org/details/treblinkaex ... 6/mode/2up

2024 excavations

https://muzeumtreblinka.eu/en/2024/07/0 ... tion-camp/
Link to PROOF that that Treblinka II “huge mass grave discoveries” are fraudulent charades and the Treblinka II mass murder / holocaust allegations are false:

https://thisisaboutscience.com/

Nessie proffers so-called "evidence" while Gerdes presents proof.
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Nessie wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:46 am I have proved there is enough space inside TII, for there to have been multiple, 11 or so according to witnesses and geophysical evidence, mass graves, containing c850,000 corpses.
Nessie, what is 850,000 divided by 11?

BTW Nessie:
Here are 13 of the 15 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II - as alleged by the charlatan Caroline Sturdy Colls (which she labels as "possible grave sites"):

https://vnnforum.com/attachment.php?att ... 1524525336

And here are 12 of the 15 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II - as alleged by the charlatan Caroline Sturdy Colls (which she labels as "probable burial / cremation pits"):

https://vnnforum.com/attachment.php?att ... 1524529600

And here are the 15 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II - as alleged by the charlatan Caroline Sturdy Colls (which she labels in various ways):

https://vnnforum.com/attachment.php?att ... 1524614037
https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=229 ... count=2843
https://thisisaboutscience.com/
Nessie, why do you allege 11 when CSC alleges 15?

Also, do you deny that Yad Vashem alleges 925,000 jews were murdered at Treblinka II?

Nessie what is 925,000 divided by 15?
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