The extant photograph of smoke from Treblinka

[Stubble]

I find it odd that the only photograph of smoke coming from treblinka is from the revolt. Anyone care to posit why? Obviously somebody that worked for the railroad had a camera, and thought photographing the smoke was important enough to photograph it.

Why wasn't the polish government in exile able to get a photo of the smoke from the pyres? Why didn't anyone else ever snap a picture?

Odd, ain't it?

[Nessie]

I find it odd that the only photograph of smoke coming from treblinka is from the revolt. Anyone care to posit why? Obviously somebody that worked for the railroad had a camera, and thought photographing the smoke was important enough to photograph it.

Why wasn't the polish government in exile able to get a photo of the smoke from the pyres? Why didn't anyone else ever snap a picture?

Odd, ain't it?

Anyone caught with a camera near to an AR camp, was going to be arrested and punished.

[TlsMS93]

I find it odd that the only photograph of smoke coming from treblinka is from the revolt. Anyone care to posit why? Obviously somebody that worked for the railroad had a camera, and thought photographing the smoke was important enough to photograph it.

Why wasn't the polish government in exile able to get a photo of the smoke from the pyres? Why didn't anyone else ever snap a picture?

Odd, ain't it?

Anyone caught with a camera near to an AR camp, was going to be arrested and punished.

I have already shown you that this did not happen, several plainclothes officers took photos of Sobibor, the one in the Treblinka photo was not punished. There is a book on the treatment of prisoners by the AB commanders where it mentions care for prisoners and punishment for officers who disobey, but for you these documents do not exist or are an exception.

[Nessie]

I find it odd that the only photograph of smoke coming from treblinka is from the revolt. Anyone care to posit why? Obviously somebody that worked for the railroad had a camera, and thought photographing the smoke was important enough to photograph it.

Why wasn't the polish government in exile able to get a photo of the smoke from the pyres? Why didn't anyone else ever snap a picture?

Odd, ain't it?

Anyone caught with a camera near to an AR camp, was going to be arrested and punished.

I have already shown you that this did not happen, several plainclothes officers took photos of Sobibor, the one in the Treblinka photo was not punished.

The deputy Commander of Sobibor and the last Commander at TII took some photos, mainly showing staff and their living area.

There is a book on the treatment of prisoners by the AB commanders where it mentions care for prisoners and punishment for officers who disobey, but for you these documents do not exist or are an exception.

A local Polish resident, caught taking photos of an AR camp, would face severe punishment.

[TlsMS93]

Anyone caught with a camera near to an AR camp, was going to be arrested and punished.

I have already shown you that this did not happen, several plainclothes officers took photos of Sobibor, the one in the Treblinka photo was not punished.

The deputy Commander of Sobibor and the last Commander at TII took some photos, mainly showing staff and their living area.

There is a book on the treatment of prisoners by the AB commanders where it mentions care for prisoners and punishment for officers who disobey, but for you these documents do not exist or are an exception.

A local Polish resident, caught taking photos of an AR camp, would face severe punishment.

To report lies before the world even I would punish.

[Stubble]

So, these plumes of smoke for the bodies, they were small then? Unable to be seen from more than a few yards? Remarkable.

It's either that, or the Germans sent teams around for miles to check for cameras I guess.

Which is it Nessie?

[Scott]

I find it odd that the only photograph of smoke coming from treblinka is from the revolt. Anyone care to posit why? Obviously somebody that worked for the railroad had a camera, and thought photographing the smoke was important enough to photograph it.

Why wasn't the polish government in exile able to get a photo of the smoke from the pyres? Why didn't anyone else ever snap a picture?

Odd, ain't it?

Anyone caught with a camera near to an AR camp, was going to be arrested and punished.

That would not have bothered the Polish "Resistance" any. They took some phony atrocity pics of Sonderkommandos burning piles of clothes removed from corpses behind Krema V, for example.

[Nessie]

I find it odd that the only photograph of smoke coming from treblinka is from the revolt. Anyone care to posit why? Obviously somebody that worked for the railroad had a camera, and thought photographing the smoke was important enough to photograph it.

Why wasn't the polish government in exile able to get a photo of the smoke from the pyres? Why didn't anyone else ever snap a picture?

Odd, ain't it?

Anyone caught with a camera near to an AR camp, was going to be arrested and punished.

That would not have bothered the Polish "Resistance" any. They took some phony atrocity pics of Sonderkommandos burning piles of clothes removed from corpses behind Krema V, for example.

I think Polish resistance would have been very cautious about being caught, as their subsequent death was highly likely.

[Stubble]

Caught from a mile and a half away? How? Did the evil nazis have camera sniffing bloodhounds that could track down cameras within miles of the facility, or what?

Or was the smoke plume from the fires camouflaged somehow?

[Nessie]

Caught from a mile and a half away? How? Did the evil nazis have camera sniffing bloodhounds that could track down cameras within miles of the facility, or what?

Or was the smoke plume from the fires camouflaged somehow?

What is the evidential value of there not being any Polish resistance photos of the AR camps, during the period they were open?

[Stubble]

It's, odd.

It's odd that the one picture of smoke coming from treblinka is from the uprising, and no other photos of smoke exist.

It's odd that the railroad worker snapped the photo, but nobody ever snapped any other photos of the 24hr smoke plumes coming from the camp.

Hell, the railroad worker obviously had a thing for photographing smoke plumes, why hadn't he plied his hobby on literally any other day?

It's odd.

[Nessie]

It's, odd.

It's odd that the one picture of smoke coming from treblinka is from the uprising, and no other photos of smoke exist.

It's odd that the railroad worker snapped the photo, but nobody ever snapped any other photos of the 24hr smoke plumes coming from the camp.

Hell, the railroad worker obviously had a thing for photographing smoke plumes, why hadn't he plied his hobby on literally any other day?

It's odd.

Zabecki was asked by Polish Intelligence to keep notes on the TII transports. In his 1945 statement, he said;

https://www.zapisyterroru.pl/dlibra/pub ... nQgNzg7Nnc

"During my work at Treblinka station, I tried to note down the most significant events concerning the camp. It was very dangerous because SS-men from the camp came to the station all the time, plus two German railwaymen were permanently posted there. I recall that in the spring of 1943, one Konczkowski, an engineer from the company Rudzki, who was involved in the construction of the bridge on the Bug river, was arrested by the Gestapo for making such notes and then executed."

It is likely that the SS who were usually at the Treblinka station left to go to the camp during the revolt, giving Zabecki the opportunity to take the photo. Why is it odd that he did not regularly photo the camp, when he was normally working with SS guards?

[Stubble]

So, let me get this straight, he had a camera, was part of the intelligence community, and never snapped any other picture of the smoke?

Because the SS were watching him 24/7.

But they never noticed he had a camera.

Makes perfect sense....

[Nessie]

So, let me get this straight, he had a camera, was part of the intelligence community, and never snapped any other picture of the smoke?

Because the SS were watching him 24/7.

But they never noticed he had a camera.

Makes perfect sense....

That it does not make sense to you, is of what evidential value? Does it prove Zabecki lied about what he saw and photographed?

[Stubble]

I can mark something as odd without specific reasoning, because it is odd.

It is even more odd that he was an asset for the polish government in exile.

That makes it especially odd.