Callafangers' statements of fact / rebuttable presumptions about Belzec and Sobibor

[Stubble]

Keen your power of observation does not disappoint.

The only grave in the picture I was referring to however was grave 5. Hence I pointed out something was missing. It apparently had some hair in it, but, that's about it man.

[Keen]

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; at least one grave containing the remains of at least one person has been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically discovered within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - ??

Definitely true.

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; at least one mass grave containing the remains of at least 5 people has been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically discovered within the boundary of the Sobibor camp - ??

[Keen]

Bla, bla, bla... nothing but deafening silence... bla, bla, bla...

Kind of like your deafening silence here:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19081#p19081

When are you going to fill in the blanks Callafangers?

[Keen]

we are all adults here and facts and reason matter more than niceties.

The issue is not about being 'nice' but a question of ascertaining reality.

If that is the case bombsaway, then why are you so afraid to fill in the blanks here:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19081#p19081

What are you waiting for bombsaway?

What are you so afraid of?

[Keen]

New thread, branches from our current discussion here:

Sobibór: Kola-Mazurek Discrepancies and Implications
viewtopic.php?p=19317

Callafangers has to start a new thread in that section so I wouldn't be able to point out his serial dodging.



You know Callafangers, there wouldn't even be a conversation about that topic, much less a new thread opened up on it, if it hadn't been for Mr. Gerdes pointing out the fact, over and over again, that the "huge mass graves" of Sobibor are cognitive illusions. Which reminds me, why are you so afraid to talk about the fraudulently alleged "mound of ashes" illusion? I've noticed that you avoid that subjcect like the plauge.

[Keen]

Keen your power of observation does not disappoint.

The only grave in the picture I was referring to however was grave 5. Hence I pointed out something was missing. It apparently had some hair in it, but, that's about it man.

The proper way to look at the Sobibor psy-op is to break it down to 3 major components:

1: The "mound of ashes."

See here for the foundational question about this fraudulently alleged "huge mass grave":

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19350#p19350

2: The "huge mass graves" numbered 1-7

3: And "huge mass graves" 8-24 (minus the "ash mound")

[Keen]

If there were clear evidence of fraudulence, revisionists would have zeroed-in on this decades ago.

Show me the NOVA program that was pulled.

Show me the GPR data that has never been released.

Show me these photos:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=622

Show me the evidence that the "mound of ashes" contains an iota of human remains:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19350#p19350

Answer these simple questions:

Which alleged "huge mass graves" was the soil that makes up the "mound of ashes" dug out of?

Is it - True. - or - False. - that in 2013, Sobibor memorial designer / "artist-historian" Lukasz Mieszkowski admitted that Sobibors "burial mound" is "MADE OF SOIL NOT CONTAINING ASHES" - ??

Which of the 24 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" contains the remains of no less than 6 jews?

Explain why virtually every major player in the Sobibor psyop (including Shermer) refused to debate Mr. Gerdes or answer any pertinate questions about their fraudulent "investigation."

Show us your statement of fact / rebuttable presumption about Sobibor.

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

[Keen]

There were no invasive excavations permitted other than by drilling.

Then where did the soil that makes up the "huge mound of ashes" come from?

I've reviewed all of Kola's descriptions; I have a spreadsheet which I use to analyze each of his graves there, which also incorporates all of the calculations Mattogno discusses in his work... With this latest reduction to grave no. 5, I'd lower my Sobibor estimate even further (from ~10-40,000 to ~9-36,000)

Callafangers, what is 9,000 - 36,000 divided by 24?

What is 9,000 - 36,000 X 32?

What is 9,000 - 36,000 X 7?

Note: This is the point where Callafangers, and his exterminationist / convergence of evidence ilk, tuck tail and run away.

They cravenly refuse to take it to the next level, which is all laid out for them here:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19081#p19081

All they have to do is fill in the blanks.

But they lack the courage, integrity and character to even try.

[Keen]

Callafangers (from another thread):

Is there a shred of evidence that any excavation took place to fill the 50-meter mound with ashes?

NOT. A. SHRED.

The original psyop was so clumsy and so obviously fraudulent:

https://infocenters.co.il/gfh/multimedi ... _1_web.jpg

that it had to be put down the memory hole and a new and more sophisticated psyop had to be employed.

[Keen]

Keen your power of observation does not disappoint.

The only grave in the picture I was referring to however was grave 5. Hence I pointed out something was missing. It apparently had some hair in it, but, that's about it man.

Stubble, would you please explain this to me (A quote from you on another thread):

You are looking at around 5,000 corpses at Sobibor.

Are you saying that you believe that the remains of 5,000 jews are buried in the 24 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves"?

If so, does that mean that 5,000 is your answer to this question:

Based on all of the evidence that I know exists, I believe that - IN TOTAL - the remains of no less than _?_ jews really were buried in Sobibor's 24 "huge mass graves."

If the remains of 5,000 jews really are buried in 24 "huge mass graves" at Sobibor, would you please express that as a statement of fact that can be defined as a rebuttable presumptionm that you could defend under cross examination in a U.S. court.

Thanks.

[Keen]

In fact it would be strange if NOTHING was found there.

Why would that be strange? NOTHING was found in the sixties when they constructed the "mound of ashes" but pretended that the mound actually contained the remains of 250,000 jews.

Finding nothing, except maybe these bones:

https://infocenters.co.il/gfh/multimedi ... _1_web.jpg

didn't stop them from creating the cognitive illusion that the "ash mound" big-lie was intended to elicit.

[Stubble]

Keen your power of observation does not disappoint.

The only grave in the picture I was referring to however was grave 5. Hence I pointed out something was missing. It apparently had some hair in it, but, that's about it man.

Stubble, would you please explain this to me (A quote from you on another thread):

You are looking at around 5,000 corpses at Sobibor.

Are you saying that you believe that the remains of 5,000 jews are buried in the 24 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves"?

If so, does that mean that 5,000 is your answer to this question:

Based on all of the evidence that I know exists, I believe that - IN TOTAL - the remains of no less than _?_ jews really were buried in Sobibor's 24 "huge mass graves."

If the remains of 5,000 jews really are buried in 24 "huge mass graves" at Sobibor, would you please express that as a statement of fact that can be defined as a rebuttable presumptionm that you could defend under cross examination in a U.S. court.

Thanks.

Entertaining the hypothetical grave space put forward based on the new theoretical grave capacity from the excavation contrasted against the Kola bore study.

Basically, intellectual masturbation.

I should have added the qualifier 'max', although I did not.

So far, I believe the number of actual corpses is 6. That is, a bit short of the claim...

[Keen]

Entertaining the hypothetical grave space put forward based on the new theoretical grave capacity from the excavation contrasted against the Kola bore study...

I would call it the Kola core sample psyops.

Basically, intellectual masturbation.

That is exactly how I would describe Callafangers' drivel, which is exactly like Nesserto's drivel, with the only difference being 39,000 vs 250,000. Or:

An average of 10,417 jews (Over 36.5 tons of charred human remains and remains in a state of decay, including 333,334 teeth) pe "huge mass grave."

VS

An average of 1,625 jews (Over 1.5 tons of charred human remains and remains in a state of decay, including 52,000 teeth) pe "huge mass grave."

That is why both of them are terrified of examining each "huge mass grave" individually.

With each "huge mass grave" examined without holohoax goggles, the average for each subsequent "huge mass grave" goes up, as there is only one "huge mass grave" that has ever been proven to contain the remains of so-much-as 6 people.

[Stubble]

Keen, I edited my post to add a bit of a head nod to the fact that virtually nothing has been physically located on site. You aren't wrong.

I do find it remarkable that just looking at Kola and taking it as gospel I came to about 10% of the claim. Just taking the excavations as gospel reduces the theoretical maximum to around 5,000.

The mainstream thesis of disappearing self immolating jews is completely untenable. Any way you look at it.

At this point, Nessie is trying to retcon history and say, well, of course there is no grave space, everybody was wrong, they started burning everybody before Aktion 1005...

[Hektor]

In fact it would be strange if NOTHING was found there.

Why would that be strange? NOTHING was found in the sixties when they constructed the "mound of ashes" but pretended that the mound actually contained the remains of 250,000 jews.

Finding nothing, except maybe these bones:

https://infocenters.co.il/gfh/multimedi ... _1_web.jpg

didn't stop them from creating the cognitive illusion that the "ash mound" big-lie was intended to elicit.

Strange because it was a war zone in a region that was plagued with epidemics as well.

They didn't find, because they didn't really bother looking. They could fully rely on the fact that this was a Communist dictatorship at the time. So, any scrutiny could be repelled. The show trials of Eichmann and Auschwitz trial had some shock value as well....