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Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:24 am Organisation Todt was also not accommodating them in 1944.

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:20 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:24 am
Again, there is a chronological issue with that. By the end of 1944, there were zero Jews in ghettos, as they had all closed down. Organisation Todt was also not accommodating them in 1944.

And yet hundreds (at least) of Zwangsarbeitslagers fur Juden remained in operation, as far as we know. Organization Todt was not exactly "organized" in the East. And they were not the only employer who had Jewish laborers.

Additionally, the overall scarcity of information on all of this is quite insightful -- it flies against your regular assumption that we "should have more" documentation if Jews had indeed survived at these locations. It's turning out quite clear that, no -- no, we shouldn't. Even for arrangements we know for certain existed, there is barely anything known. Even for the periods we agree that Zwangsarbeitslagers in any area were opened, minimal records of them exist at all, and we certainly cannot speak to the day-to-day operations, overall camp strength/population, etc.

This is how the Holocaust Industry has gotten away with their shenanigans for so long. The scarcity of information is obvious, given the scale and distance being considered, so it is easy to fill-in the gaps with whatever atrocity tales witnesses X, Y, and Z decide to share or invent. And once others hear of that same tale, they are presented with a choice and an opportunity of whether to deny or to confirm it. Some would assume that truth is always a priority but the nature of the war and of how information was being used at this time suggests otherwise, as does the remarkable pattern of inconsistent, impossible, or improbable claims well-known to 'Holocaust' testimony.

Nazgul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:28 am There were other companies such as Schmelt and Hasag, who out sourced to private contractors.
(Kamienna in German sources), forced labor camp for Jews, located in the
Polish town of Skarzysko-Kamienna. The camp belonged to the German
Hasag concern. It was established in August 1942 and was liquidated on
August 1, 1944. Altogether, 25,000--30,000 Jews were brought to SkarzyskoKamienna.


IG Farben controlled Monowitz 1942–1945,

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:44 am And this is why I repeatedly point out that professional academics (i.e. paid promulgators) like Sanitycheck (Nick) and all the others have to be either:
a.) knowingly deceiving for money and career advancement, by ignoring this;
or
b.) dimwits whose confirmation bias is defined by denial.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:44 am

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:20 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:24 am
Again, there is a chronological issue with that. By the end of 1944, there were zero Jews in ghettos, as they had all closed down. Organisation Todt was also not accommodating them in 1944.

And yet hundreds (at least) of Zwangsarbeitslagers fur Juden remained in operation, as far as we know. Organization Todt was not exactly "organized" in the East. And they were not the only employer who had Jewish laborers.

Additionally, the overall scarcity of information on all of this is quite insightful -- it flies against your regular assumption that we "should have more" documentation if Jews had indeed survived at these locations. It's turning out quite clear that, no -- no, we shouldn't. Even for arrangements we know for certain existed, there is barely anything known. Even for the periods we agree that Zwangsarbeitslagers in any area were opened, minimal records of them exist at all, and we certainly cannot speak to the day-to-day operations, overall camp strength/population, etc.

This is how the Holocaust Industry has gotten away with their shenanigans for so long. The scarcity of information is obvious, given the scale and distance being considered, so it is easy to fill-in the gaps with whatever atrocity tales witnesses X, Y, and Z decide to share or invent. And once others hear of that same tale, they are presented with a choice and an opportunity of whether to deny or to confirm it. Some would assume that truth is always a priority but the nature of the war and of how information was being used at this time suggests otherwise, as does the remarkable pattern of inconsistent, impossible, or improbable claims well-known to 'Holocaust' testimony.

Yes!

This can’t be expressed enough to the genuinely curious and researching.
The absence of documentary evidence is a peculiarity. And when we KNOW that Allies captured many tons of paperwork, the absence of just the documentation regarding the wherabouts of jews is even more noteworthy.

And this is why I repeatedly point out that professional academics (i.e. paid promulgators) like Sanitycheck (Nick) and all the others have to be either:
a.) knowingly deceiving for money and career advancement, by ignoring this;
or
b.) dimwits whose confirmation bias is defined by denial.

Organisation Todt, activities of individual Einsatzgruppen and site managements. Organization, supply, general plans/layouts, measures and general orders

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:20 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:24 am
Again, there is a chronological issue with that. By the end of 1944, there were zero Jews in ghettos, as they had all closed down. Organisation Todt was also not accommodating them in 1944.

And yet hundreds (at least) of Zwangsarbeitslagers fur Juden remained in operation, as far as we know. Organization Todt was not exactly "organized" in the East. And they were not the only employer who had Jewish laborers.

Additionally, the overall scarcity of information on all of this is quite insightful -- it flies against your regular assumption that we "should have more" documentation if Jews had indeed survived at these locations. It's turning out quite clear that, no -- no, we shouldn't. Even for arrangements we know for certain existed, there is barely anything known. Even for the periods we agree that Zwangsarbeitslagers in any area were opened, minimal records of them exist at all, and we certainly cannot speak to the day-to-day operations, overall camp strength/population, etc.

This is how the Holocaust Industry has gotten away with their shenanigans for so long. The scarcity of information is obvious, given the scale and distance being considered, so it is easy to fill-in the gaps with whatever atrocity tales witnesses X, Y, and Z decide to share or invent. And once others hear of that same tale, they are presented with a choice and an opportunity of whether to deny or to confirm it. Some would assume that truth is always a priority but the nature of the war and of how information was being used at this time suggests otherwise, as does the remarkable pattern of inconsistent, impossible, or improbable claims well-known to 'Holocaust' testimony.

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:13 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:01 am
Organisation Todt was an infrastructure construction company, that built many new roads.

Ah, were they tailors and shoemakers as well?

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:32 am
Wannsee reported a policy to work Jews till they died. OT worked Jews till they died.

Wahrheitssucher wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:44 am

The absence of documentary evidence is a peculiarity...

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:30 am
Why would OT destroy documents that proved they were accommodating and employing millions of Jews, that the Nazis were being accused of murdering? How come you cannot find evidence of millions of Jews, still alive in 1944, amongst the nearly 4.5 million worker registration documents that survived?

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:34 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:32 am
Wannsee reported a policy to work Jews till they died. OT worked Jews till they died.

Please provide the exact excerpt where Wannsee uses the word "died" [in German, of course].

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:44 am
I do not have a German version. The translations I can find are; "Able-bodied Jews, separated according to sex, will be taken in large work columns to these areas for work on roads, in the course of which action doubtless a large portion will be eliminated by natural causes." and "In large (labor) columns, with the sexes separated, Jews capable of work will be moved into these areas as they build roads, during which a large proportion will no doubt drop out through natural reduction."

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:39 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:30 am
Why would OT destroy documents that proved they were accommodating and employing millions of Jews, that the Nazis were being accused of murdering? How come you cannot find evidence of millions of Jews, still alive in 1944, amongst the nearly 4.5 million worker registration documents that survived?

Germany's strategy on propaganda was never defensive -- Goebbels makes this much clear in his diary. Their approach was secrecy in some areas, and an offensive approach to propaganda, i.e. highlighting the crimes of the Allies (e.g. Katyn, British colonial crimes, etc.).

I have already shared with you proof that the camp strengths and much of anything about these camps at all was not being recorded, due to absent administrative structure (not to mention Soviet invasion and an "Iron Curtain" to boot).

4.5 million documents surviving does not mean there were not countless other events that were never documented or whose documents should/could not have survived.

Absence of evidence does not equate to evidence of absence, especially when there is evidence of a reason for absence (already provided).

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:46 am

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:44 am
I do not have a German version. The translations I can find are; "Able-bodied Jews, separated according to sex, will be taken in large work columns to these areas for work on roads, in the course of which action doubtless a large portion will be eliminated by natural causes." and "In large (labor) columns, with the sexes separated, Jews capable of work will be moved into these areas as they build roads, during which a large proportion will no doubt drop out through natural reduction."

Yes -- the discussion is about labor. The 'dropping out' refers to dropping out of the workforce. Only with "Holocaust goggles" can someone look at this language and think, 'they mean murder!'.

Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:47 am
You are trying to excuse your inability to evidence millions of Jews working for OT in 1944. Your suggestion is that there was a wholesale destruction of evidence by the Allies, without any Nazi or OT personnel attempting to prevent that, or coming forward as a witness, or any circumstantial evidence, to prove the conspiracy.