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Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:12 am Core samples.

Callafangers:

apparent ash, burnt remains, and lime

Keen:

Taken from what "huge mass grave"?

Andrzej Kola:

We uncovered seven mass graves... In them there were charred human remains and under them remains in a state of decay.

I think some have been fair to point out that there are certain excavations which most researchers (even revisionists) do not dispute having actually taken place (e.g. Kola at Sobibor...), with significant corpse quantities found... at Sobibor, there have been hundreds of core samples, dozens of which contain at least some amount of corpse material... most people are going to find core sample arguments (and extrapolation) compelling.

I take some of their reports on corpses or corpse material found to be possibly sincere, and adjust my estimates accordingly.

First Callafangers, show us photos of core samples that substantiates Kola / your allegation that charred human remains, remains in a state of decay and corpse material were uncovered from a "huge mass grave" in Sobibor.

Second, fill in the blanks for us:

Based on all of the evidence that I know exists,
especially all of the physical evidence uncovered by Yoram Haimi's archaeological excavations
( https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19148#p19148 ),
and all of the geophysical data collected
( https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=18937#p18937 ),
and all of the physical evidence that Kola uncovered via core samples ("dozens of which contained at least some amount of corpse material" - i.e. - "charred human remains and remains in a state of decay")
and these photos of unanalyzed but apparent ash from an unknown source & apparent burnt remains from an unknown source in core samples taken from unknown locations:



I believe that it can be logically and rationally estimated that the following "huge mass graves" contain / contained - NO LESS THAN - the following amount of human remains:

"Huge mass grave" #1: ?

"Huge mass grave" #2: ?

"Huge mass grave" #3: ?

"Huge mass grave" #4: ?

"Huge mass grave" #5: ?

"Huge mass grave" #6: ?

"Huge mass grave" #7: ?

"Huge mass grave" #22 (The "Mound of Ashes"): ?

TOTAL: ?

What are you waiting for Callafangers?

What are you so afraid of?

BTW Callafangers, Haimi alleges that this is what finely ground human bones look like:

Photo of Sobibors "huge mass grave" #20



Description: Sunk to a depth of ca. 1 meter, whitened human bones that had undergone burning were discovered mixed with gray soil.

Callafangers, show us the GPR scan of this "huge mass grave" before it was disturbed.

Andrzej Kola:

We uncovered seven mass graves with an average depth of five meters. In them there were charred human remains and under them remains in a state of decay.

I take some of their reports on corpses or corpse material found to be possibly sincere, and adjust my estimates accordingly... photographs at least increase the probability that a sincere research effort has taken place..

Callafangers wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 1:32 am This aligns with what the authors claim in their written reports

Callafangers wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 1:32 am These do not prove the DNA of the burnt remains, of course, but the photographs at least increase the probability that a sincere research effort has taken place.

You, on the other hand, do not think this far. You essentially say, "how many humans' worth of photographed corpse remains have been shown to us"?

KEENS FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT / REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION ABOUT SOBIBOR:

It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bones and burnt remains of 250,000 jews (Along with their 8 million teeth.) were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” within the boundary of the Sobibor camp. It is also alleged by the archaeologists, forensic investigators and geophysicists who investigated the camp, that their investigations scientifically proved the existence of the physical evidence that proved the orthodox Sobibor holocaust story really was true. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 24 "huge mass graves" in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “archaeologically / forensically / scientifically proven” to currently exist at this site, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via sincere research efforts, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

fireofice wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:59 am Get his ass Keen. Callafangers OWNED for not denying the holocaust STRONGLY ENOUGH!!!

I think some have been fair to point out that there are certain excavations which most researchers (even revisionists) do not dispute having actually taken place (e.g. Kola at Sobibor...), with significant corpse quantities found

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:12 am Please point me (a direct link) to any conversation where you have directly addressed the matter of core samples and how/whether they can be extrapolated to any particular quantity or consistency of remains at any AR camp... most people are going to find core sample arguments (and extrapolation) compelling.

Keen, nobody is afraid of you.

Callafangers wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 1:32 am As for a more specific breakdown, here you go (for Sobibor)... What's less absurd is the belief that core samples were in fact taken and at least roughly reflect the extremely-vague descriptions of material reported in each... If we interpret the records of corpse remains as actually being so, this can easily bring us into a reasonable extrapolation of some tens of thousands of total corpses (but likely no more than ~15,000 or so, and definitely fewer than ~40-50,000, all things considered). It could be even less than ~10,000, depending on how often Kola's team mistook other burnt/charred material for corpse material.

Callafangers wrote: ↑Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:12 am Core samples.


Core-Sobibor-Kola.jpg

Hydric soil

Hydric soil is soil which is permanently or seasonally saturated by water, resulting in anaerobic conditions, as found in wetlands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydric_soil

Gleysol

A gleysol or gley soil is a hydric soil that unless drained is saturated with groundwater for long enough to develop a characteristic gleyic colour pattern. The pattern is essentially made up of reddish, brownish, or yellowish colours at surfaces of soil particles and/or in the upper soil horizons mixed with greyish/blueish colours inside the peds and/or deeper in the soil.


A stagnohumic gleysoil in a forest plantation in Mid-Wales, United Kingdom.
The organic-rich topsoil is over a grey and orange mottled subsoil developed in glacial till ("boulder clay").

The term gley, or glei, is derived from Ukrainian: глей, romanized: hlei, and was introduced into scientific terminology in 1905 by the Ukrainian scientist Georgy Vysotsky.[1]

Gleysols occur within a wide range of unconsolidated materials, mainly fluvial, marine and lacustrine sediments of Pleistocene or Holocene age, having basic to acidic mineralogy. They are found in depression areas and low landscape positions with shallow groundwater.

They exhibit a greenish-blue-grey soil color because of anoxic wetland conditions. On exposure, as the iron in the soil oxidizes colors are transformed to a mottled pattern of reddish, yellow or orange patches. During soil formation (gleying), the oxygen supply in the soil profile is restricted due to soil moisture at saturation. Anaerobic micro-organisms support cellular respiration by using alternatives to free oxygen as electron acceptors to support cellular respiration. Where anaerobic organisms reduce ferric oxide to ferrous oxide, the reduced mineral compounds produce the typical gleysoil color.


Ferrous oxide (FeO)

Groundwater gleysoils develop where drainage is poor because the water table (phreatic surface) is high, whilst surface-water gleying occurs when precipitation input at the surface does not drain freely through the ground. A reducing environment exists in the saturated layers, which become mottled greyish-blue or greyish-brown due to its ferrous iron and organic matter content.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleysol

Black layer in turf: Causes and management

A look at the scientific research on black layer, its causes, and cultural practices for countering it.

June 2016 | William L. Berndt, Ph.D.


Black layer from a creeping bentgrass putting green in northern Michigan. Photos by William Berndt

What is black layer?

Physically, black layer is an accumulation of metal sulfides in the pore space of soil. Metal sulfides form when hydrogen sulfide (H2S) reacts with metals such as iron (Fe2+), producing iron sulfide (FeS). Sulfur-reducing bacteria (SRB) generate hydrogen sulfide during respiration.

What makes soils anaerobic?

Waterlogging or excessive soil microbial activity can induce anaerobic conditions in soil. Waterlogging from excessive rainfall or irrigation physically restricts oxygen diffusion into soil (Table 1). Development of physical layers in the root zone from topdressing can also hinder oxygen diffusion. Other factors that influence oxygen diffusion are soil pore size distribution, organic matter content and compaction. Too many fines in greens mix and too much organic matter can increase soil’s water-holding capacity. Compaction, which is the consolidation of pore spaces, can directly restrict both drainage and gas exchange. If oxygen diffusion becomes inhibited for any reason, then microbial respiration can deplete available soil oxygen within a few hours. Irrigating judiciously, ensuring that drainage is adequate, alleviating compaction via cultivation, and paying close attention to greens mix properties are vital considerations for preventing low redox potential.

https://gcmonline.com/course/environmen ... layer-turf

Eye of Zyclone wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:37 am For info, grey and black layers of soil are not necessarily layers of ashes. Hydric soils also display grey and black layers.

Stubble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 8:03 am I think Keen has admirably demonstrated that the various teams have been composed of delusional frauds.