Archie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:20 pm
Korherr explains the difficulties of counting Jews (from the "short" version).
Necessary reservation. Jewish statistics cannot be regarded uncritically, as there is much scope for error in determining Jewish population figures. Erroneous statistics are attributable inter alia to Jewry's character and development and problems in identifying people as Jews. In addition there have been Jewry's tireless migrations over thousands of years, countless conversions and lapses, attempts at integration, assimilation into the host populations and above all attempts by Jews to avoid being identified as such.
This is really quite similar to the article cited earlier by Dr. Hans Kohn explaining the same difficulties. It seems both Nazis and Jews agree that the whole exercise is fraught with challenges.
It was an exercise that they put a huge amount of resources into, often with active assistance. The most accurate figures come from the Germans, Austrians and the Netherlands. The Dutch civil service and police were very cooperative, in enforcing the Nuremberg Race Laws. They all record an indisputable, massive drop, in their Jewish populations, 1939 to 1945, with little spring back after 1945. Those countries had the highest arrest rates, for Jewish citizens.
The countries with the lowest arrest rates, Denmark, Finland and France, are able to show far lower population drops and where their Jewish citizens were in 1945.
What you are doing, is only discussing countries where statistics are harder to come by, such as Ukraine, or Latvia, as their census figures are not so definitive and many Jews were killed, on, or shortly after being arrested, so they were undocumented and have to estimated. There is one source of figures that give precise numbers, the Einsatzgruppen reports of Jews shot, but, it is known, they were prone to exaggeration.
However, whether a country has accurate, well-kept figures or not, every single one reported drops, when Jews came into contact with the Nazis. Plus, there were countries, Romania and Serbia, who took avantage of the war and the opportunity alliance with the Nazis gave them, to conduct their own mass killing of Jewish citizens. If it was all a hoax, why do they admit to mass murders they did not do? Would they not prefer to be another Denmark, and say they resisted the Nazis?
No matter what the circumstances, every nation in Europe, lost Jews and had fewer in 1945, than in 1939. Some can provide detailed figures and other less so.
Just another lame attempt at shifting the burden of proof.
