Camp liberation populations.

[Nessie]

A thread to list the populations of camps when they were liberated. There is no point in a list for the ghettos, as they were all closed down by the autumn of 1944. The point of the thread being to prove how few Jews survived being arrested and imprisoned. Remember, not all prisoners liberated were Jewish, so the Jewish totals are lower.

Bergen-Belsen. 60,000. The largest liberation from one camp.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/the-libe ... gen-belsen

Dachau and sub-camps, 67,000 of whom 22,000 were Jewish, mainly from Hungary.

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/a ... ation-camp

Mauthausen and Gusen. 40,000

https://www.mauthausen-memorial.org/en/ ... Liberation

Buchenwald. 21,000.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... buchenwald

Ravensbruck. 20,000.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... vensbrueck

A-B, Monowitz and sub camps, 7500.

https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/li ... iberation/

Sachsenhausen. 3000.

https://hmd.org.uk/resource/22-april-19 ... tion-camp/

Flossenburg. 1500

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ossenbuerg

Majdanek. 500

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/a ... danek-1944

Dora-Mittelbau. 250

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... -mittelbau

Stutthof. 100

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... e/stutthof

Klooga. 85

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klooga_concentration_camp

Natzweiler-Struthof. 0

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... r-struthof

Gross-Rosen. 0

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ross-rosen

Neuengamme. 0

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... neuengamme

Kaiserwald. 0

https://libguides.chapman.edu/concentra ... Kaiserwald

Plaszow. 0

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... le/plaszow

[Nazgul]

You are going through another "hissy fit" when you are well aware from my investigations that most of the Jews were not in SS camps but labour camps specifically for Jews, though at the end of the war controlled by the SS on an administrative level for expediency. You asked for evidence for Jewish camps in 44 in another post which I will reproduce here. You asked for the 44 camps but here are the 45 camps prior to surrender.


Prattling on about a few SS run labour camps or Konzentrationslager has little credence in reality considering the larger picture.

[curioussoul]

This thread always cracked me up on the old forum as well. As if camp liberation populations carry any implications whatsoever for the Holocaust story. Again, no one is alleging that the missing Jews were actually housed inside of the concentration camps. What's being alleged is that they were deported to the East, in accordance with the official German policy at that time.

[borjastick]

This thread always cracked me up on the old forum as well. As if camp liberation populations carry any implications whatsoever for the Holocaust story. Again, no one is alleging that the missing Jews were actually housed inside of the concentration camps. What's being alleged is that they were deported to the East, in accordance with the official German policy at that time.

Agreed, the claim that camp population numbers (even if correct) at the end of the war give any inclination towards death numbers is simply stupid. More clutching at straws from the Straw Clutching General.

[Fred Ziffel]

Majdanek
Death toll dropped 96.1% from 1944 to 2005

18K released while Majdanek was in operation to tell the world of the goings on there

One says 500 the other says 1500

[Nessie]

You are going through another "hissy fit" when you are well aware from my investigations that most of the Jews were not in SS camps but labour camps specifically for Jews, though at the end of the war controlled by the SS on an administrative level for expediency. You asked for evidence for Jewish camps in 44 in another post which I will reproduce here. You asked for the 44 camps but here are the 45 camps prior to surrender.


Prattling on about a few SS run labour camps or Konzentrationslager has little credence in reality considering the larger picture.

Please start to name some of those camps and their Jewish population, when liberated, including 0 if the camp had closed before liberation, or it was found empty.

[Nazgul]

What's being alleged is that they were deported to the East, in accordance with the official German policy at that time.

What we are concerned mainly with is section 5, subsection 4: The information is given below for those departed up to January 1, 1943

Transportation of Jews from the eastern Provinces to the Russian East: . . . . 1,449,692 Jews
the following numbers transited through the camps in the General Government . . . .1,274,166 Jews
through the camps in the Warthegau . . . . . . . . . . . . . .145,301 Jews

Korherr report

This is a total of ~2.8 million

While many returned many did not. The Russian East means all Russian territory or former territory such as the Ukraine, certainly Belarus where the first transport of young males from Warsaw were sent to Bobruysk to service an SS camp. Many went to Lithuania to work in the Kaiserwald living in cardboard huts in the snow. The return route from the Kaiserwald area was first to Stutthof konzentrationslager.

[Nessie]

This thread always cracked me up on the old forum as well. As if camp liberation populations carry any implications whatsoever for the Holocaust story. Again, no one is alleging that the missing Jews were actually housed inside of the concentration camps. What's being alleged is that they were deported to the East, in accordance with the official German policy at that time.

It was official Nazi policy, to identify, register and then arrest Jews and send them to camps and ghettos. That means the camp and ghetto populations, and how they changed, 1939-45, is important evidence.

There was no official Nazi policy of mass resettlement, to places other than camps and ghettos. Otherwise, what was the name of that action? Which senior Nazis and government department was responsible? Where is the documentation for such a huge undertaking? What were the names of some of the resettlement places in the east?

It was official Nazi policy to retreat in 1945, with as many prisoners as possible. That means camp liberation populations, is important evidence. You would agree, if the Allies had been liberating millions of Jews, as that would mean they clearly had not been killed.

[Nazgul]

Please start to name some of those camps and their Jewish population, when liberated, including 0 if the camp had closed before liberation, or it was found empty.

These are the camps 45.

[Nessie]

Majdanek
Death toll dropped 96.1% from 1944 to 2005

18K released while Majdanek was in operation to tell the world of the goings on there

One says 500 the other says 1500

I am using the most up-to-date figures, and not Soviet exaggerations.

[Fred Ziffel]

Tis the most up-to-date sign at Majdanek