Junk Folder for Derails

[Nessie]

The argument from incredulity is a logical fallacy.

To accurately determine what happened, gather evidence.

[Mod note: split from https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=320]

[Archie]

Going forward, posts like the above that don't meaningfully contribute to the thread topic will be moved to this thread.

[Nessie]

Seriously, like all the pathetic claims about the wooden gas chambers door, five minutes of basic research and the truth of the matter is established. That so many people cannot even manage that, explains so much. If people were educated to a higher standard, so they know better how to check and verify claims, there would be far less conspiracist dishonesty and downright lying.

You are so full of s**t Nessie - by far and away the people most ignorant of the Holocaust are those who affirm it. By raw volume, or by proportion. I could walk outside my apartment right now and pluck anybody from the street and if asked, they would look me in the eye and tell me 6 million jews were gassed at Auschwitz from fake shower heads.

"b-b-but those people don't matter because they are not actively applying their opinions to the debate"

Strawman fallacy. You just cannot help yourself, can you? Constantly misrepresenting what I am arguing. There is a lot of ignorance about what took place and that ignorance is all down to a lack of genuine research. The mistakes caused by that lack vary, from those who think all 6 million died at Auschwitz to those who think the wooden door with the window inside Krema I, was the door that led to the gas chambers in 1941.

Most of them will gladly use this """"""opinion"""""" as the main reason why White countries are not allowed to embrace Nationalist policies or seek ethnic homogeneity.

That reveals your agenda, proving you are not neutral and evidence driven.

Those people you see meming about the wooden doors, if curious enough may end up places like here. In fact, if you are so tired of debating the wooden doors and the 6 million cookies, tell your pals on Twitter about the codohforum and we'll give them an actual Holocaust education.

You are incapable of providing an education on how to conduct historical or criminal investigations, due to your lack of any relevant training.

[Nessie]

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You're not "doing research"...

So-called revisionism is not genuine research. It is driven by people with agendas, who lack the ability to conduct genuine research, or otherwise chose to ignore normal research methodologies, to produce a non-history of what took place.

[Archie]

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You're not "doing research"...

So-called revisionism is not genuine research. It is driven by people with agendas, who lack the ability to conduct genuine research, or otherwise chose to ignore normal research methodologies, to produce a non-history of what took place.

Nessie, I am going to start policing your posts more going forward. This sort of post is not acceptable.

-It makes a lot of sweeping, generic accusations about revisionists but fails to make any substantive points
-It is invidious in tone and seems intended to elicit angry responses (i.e, "bait")
-It is a good example of "unsupported disagreement"

If you are going to reply to people, you need comment on the substance of their posts.

[HansHill]

Was this supposed to be a defense of your position?

[Nessie]

Was this supposed to be a defense of your position?

Yes, I explain a major reason why some people fall for the Holocaust denial hoax and think it was faked.

[Archie]

Seriously, like all the pathetic claims about the wooden gas chambers door, five minutes of basic research and the truth of the matter is established. That so many people cannot even manage that, explains so much. If people were educated to a higher standard, so they know better how to check and verify claims, there would be far less conspiracist dishonesty and downright lying.

You are so full of s**t Nessie - by far and away the people most ignorant of the Holocaust are those who affirm it. By raw volume, or by proportion. I could walk outside my apartment right now and pluck anybody from the street and if asked, they would look me in the eye and tell me 6 million jews were gassed at Auschwitz from fake shower heads.

"b-b-but those people don't matter because they are not actively applying their opinions to the debate"

Strawman fallacy. You just cannot help yourself, can you? Constantly misrepresenting what I am arguing. There is a lot of ignorance about what took place and that ignorance is all down to a lack of genuine research. The mistakes caused by that lack vary, from those who think all 6 million died at Auschwitz to those who think the wooden door with the window inside Krema I, was the door that led to the gas chambers in 1941.

Most of them will gladly use this """"""opinion"""""" as the main reason why White countries are not allowed to embrace Nationalist policies or seek ethnic homogeneity.

That reveals your agenda, proving you are not neutral and evidence driven.

Those people you see meming about the wooden doors, if curious enough may end up places like here. In fact, if you are so tired of debating the wooden doors and the 6 million cookies, tell your pals on Twitter about the codohforum and we'll give them an actual Holocaust education.

You are incapable of providing an education on how to conduct historical or criminal investigations, due to your lack of any relevant training.

Nessie,

Crying "strawman" repeatedly is not productive. Everyone feels like the other side strawmans. You are one of the worst offenders.

Please focus on substantive rebuttals rather than making sweeping attacks about agenda, credentials, training, etc.

If someone has poor training and is making bad arguments, you should be able to rebut their arguments without appealing credentials (which cannot be verified on a forum like this in any case). To dismiss an argument because of alleged poor training is unsupported disagreement.