fireofice wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:38 am
Nick Terry is willing to debate on here. He seems to be the best candidate for it. If he won't agree to it, I can't imagine any other historians would. If we're expanding it to non-historians, then I'm sure there are plenty out there willing to debate, it's just a matter of finding them.
Agreed, him as the ideal candidate goes without saying.
I get the slight impression that Nick doesn't have as much confidence when he lacks the ability to overwhelm his opponents with word count and impressive density/quantity of information (quality, relevance, etc. aside). That is his chief MO, from what I have seen here and at RODOH. Beyond being an historian, he is easily one of the most prolific internet forum contributors I have ever seen, perhaps even #1. I calculated his forum contributions at RODOH over a period of 3-4 days, and also made an attempt to estimate his 'lifetime' internet forum contributions focused on the 'Holocaust' (from RODOH:
https://rodoh.info/thread/659/carlo-mat ... ist-batman). The relevant portion is here, tied into my broader point about how the Holocaust industry in academia enjoys infinite resources and that this condition severely (and unjustifiably) manipulates the debate against revisionism:
[Posted on April 26, 2024]
On that note, I have added-up how much content SanityCheck (Terry) has posted on this forum within the last few days. Since April 22nd, SanityCheck has written 23,485 words on this forum. That is 147,970 characters. This does not include text from posts or other excerpts that he's quoted; it only includes the text he has actually typed on his keyboard.
That is about 80-100 pages of text (12-point font, 1-inch margins, double-spaced). It would take the average person about 90-120 minutes to read.
By comparison, bombsaway appears to have written about 1,747 words in that same period (7% of SanityCheck by volume).
In the same period (excluding the current post), I have written 2,686 words (11% of SanityCheck by volume).
Without spending another 20 minutes or so to count the other contributors here, I think it is looking quite clear that SanityCheck alone has been adding as much (or more) text to this forum over the last week or so as all other members here, combined.
But it doesn't stop there -- SanityCheck (Dr. Terry) has spent his entire adult life researching the orthodox narrative of the Holocaust, being paid/funded and fully accommodated to do so throughout that time. That is a minimum of some 8-10 hours per every weekday where he has the full support of his employer, his government, and his society to immerse himself in libraries, engage with colleagues, and visit archives of his choice, with the full support and warm welcome of any government or institution he comes across, and likely with his travel expenses fully reimbursed.
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SC (Terry) admits he has been teaching the Holocaust since 2009, which suggests he's been deeply immersed in learning about it since at least the early-mid 00s. This suggests a minimum of two decades being deeply immersed (and fully funded/supported) in his education on this topic. But again, this understates it, since his 'extracurricular' activities in frequent engagement in online forums and the like, in addition to massive projects like his rebuttals to MGK, likely compares to the amount of time he's spent learning about these topics formally or within his profession.
SC says he has "only 3,173 posts since December 2006". LOL. Given his posts seem to average about 3,000 words or so apiece (occasionally much higher), this suggests some ten million words written on JREF, alone. That's about 32,000 pages of text (12 point font, single-spaced). That would take the average person about three months of non-stop reading (8 hours per day, no days off) to finish entirely.
Granted, not all of those were strictly about "Holocaust denial". In the four mega-threads exclusively about this topic, though, SC has 1,200 posts there (some 13,000 pages of text, would take about a month of non-stop reading to finish).
SC adds that he has had two accounts on Skeptics Forum Society, adding 2,851 more posts to his total since 2006. SC indicates 12% of the more recent posts there are unrelated to the Holocaust and quite brief, so let's subtract 6% from that figure of total posts, bringing us to 2,680. That's another 8 million or so words, or some 25,000 pages.
In total, that's roughly some 50,000 pages of text about the Holocaust written into online forums by SC (Terry) since circa 2006. That's about 170 books' worth of text (at some 300 pages apiece).
Of course, these posts are derived from research of their own, not all of which could be derived directly from curriculae Terry/SC was already working on or immediately familiar with. And we add to this his voluminous and more intensive work on the responses to MGK.
Altogether, Terry has spent many thousands of hours in addition to his regular, academic engagement with the 'Holocaust', in directly engaging with "deniers". His career, lifestyle, community, society, academic institution, colleagues, students, family, neighbors, etc., fully support his endeavors, financially, emotionally, intellectually, spiritually, etc. His wealth of resources to pursue his interests are abundant in ways that Revisionists in no part of Western society can possibly imagine or fathom for themselves.
The table is tilted.
The notion that this same individual would sit at a table face-to-face with a leader in revisionist thought seems very much "out of his element". I.e. it will not be possible in live debate to:
- Throw out 20 lengthy paragraphs in response to an argument only a couple paragraphs long.
- Bounce around topics of document records in eastern Europe and simultaneously avoid questions of conflicting interests, chains of custody, patterns of behavior and deception, murder weapons, physical remains, cremation procedures, etc.
It doesn't matter who the moderator is nor what the debate rules are (so long as within reason). There are questions you
must answer, in these situations (fairly and concisely), and it is these questions which SC/Terry is compelled to avoid. The establishment narrative
cannot survive in an open debate environment.
But didn't we already know this? Isn't this the implicit message of this very forum (and its parent organization) since circa 2002?