Document Request - help me find German manual

[LeafJones (Hunt)]

Can someone help me find a document? It was a German fumigation manual. It had that photo that Berg mocked Faurisson with of the sleeveless guy spreading zyklon. It also had a porthole for a fumigation chamber. It was about T-Gas, Cartox, etc., as well.

I am having difficulty locating it. Thank you geniuses.

[Archie]

Scott would be a good person to ask. He has a collection of these things. He was friends with Berg.

He had several of these manuals hosted on the old RODOH site. You can see what was there on the Wayback Machine, but it looks like most of the pdf links are dead.

https://rodoh.info/forum/viewforum.php? ... 7b3c575836

https://web.archive.org/web/20200805174 ... =12&t=3230

He might have this stuff hosted on current RODOH but I can't find it. If no one here has a copy, you can try cross-posting over there to make sure he sees it.
https://rodoh.info/forum/

[Scott]

This is probably the URL that you are looking for.

"DEGESCH" Methods for Pest Control, (1937 - in English).

My files have been a little hashed since the RODOH site crashed in 2021 when the webmaster in Sweden got arrested and imprisoned for eight years and I never got the backup from him.

I also had a lot of archival scans on external harddrives at Fritz Berg's place that were actually mine but disappeared when his son-in-law showed up shortly after his death. I did not want to be a scavenger.

I was able to save Eric Hunt's scan for Fritz Berg of the 1943 SS disinfection textbook by SS Captain and Medical Doctor Walter Doetzer (in German) (LINK - 6 MB file). I wish that this book was actually more technical, but it is comprehensive and even mentions X-ray and microwave disinfection.

Anyway, I should still have the Zyklon-Discoids (1938) hi-res tiff file book scans from American Cyanamid on a harddrive somewhere and will have to look. It is in English which is handy.

Below is the picture of the Zyklon boys wearing shirtsleeves from Degesch (1937) mentioned above. Note that a lot of these pictures are really hard to scan because in the manuals many of them are only thumbnails to begin with.

[slob]

Just found these odd and ends pages from the 1943 German manual on an old hard drive. Don't know where I got them from, but they appear to be 8 years old, well that is when I downloaded them anyway. https://postimg.cc/gallery/HV9WMDP

[Stubble]

We have a title! Excellent!

Thanks slob, you rock.

I'll hunt a copy.

[Scott]

I'm not sure that I understand what you are asking, Stubble ─ but unless you need a hardcopy, I believe that the 1943 SS textbook on disinfection by SS-Hauptsturmführer (med.) Dr. Dötzer, "Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung" (trans: Disinfection, Decontamination and Disinfestation) is scanned already in toto, and the URL to the entire book (6 MB) was in my post above.

Perhaps I should have included the citation and metadata and not just relied on the link to the actual scanned book:

(LINK)

https://search.worldcat.org/en/title/71856706

Dötzer, Walter. Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung (trans: Disinfection, Decontamination and Disinfestation). 2., unveränd. Aufl, Urban & Schwarzenberg, (1943).

Fritz Berg had it saved on his computer. I think Eric Hunt scanned it for him. I was hoping to get it translated into German but never got around to it. Unfortunately, it is not as technically detailed as I would like but it is comprehensive.

(Thanks to slob for posting the image screenshots.)





Here is some further information from a website on "Nazi Science, Technology, and Medicine."

https://academic.schafferlibrarycollections.org/s/nazi-science-technology-medicine/item/7079


Description:
Doetzer, Walter, Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung (disinfection, decontamination, disinfestation). Instruction booklet from a series published by the HI-WSS. 1943, 177 pages, scan of the cover. Source: archive.org

[slob]

We have a title! Excellent!

Thanks slob, you rock.

I'll hunt a copy.

Here it is.
https://archive.org/details/Doetzner-Wa ... -Entwesung

[Scott]

I found a PDF scan of the entire book in English from American Cyanamid titled:

American Cyanamid & Chemical Corporation,
Zyklon Discoids Fumigation Manual.
American Cyanamid & Chemical Corp., (1938).

https://search.worldcat.org/en/title/54457277

(LINK 12MB)

[Stubble]

I'm not sure that I understand what you are asking, Stubble ─ but unless you need a hardcopy, I believe that the 1943 SS textbook on disinfection by SS-Hauptsturmführer (med.) Dr. Dötzer, "Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung" (trans: Disinfection, Disinfection and Disinfestation) is scanned already in toto, and the URL to the entire book (6 MB) was in my post above.

Perhaps I should have included the citation and metadata and not just relied on the link to the actual scanned book:

(LINK)

https://search.worldcat.org/en/title/71856706

Dötzer, Walter. Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung (trans: Disinfection, Disinfection and Disinfestation). 2., unveränd. Aufl, Urban & Schwarzenberg, (1943).

Fritz Berg had it saved on his computer. I think Eric Hunt scanned it for him. I was hoping to get it translated into German but never got around to it. Unfortunately, it is not as technically detailed as I would like but it is comprehensive.

(Thanks to slob for posting the image screenshots.)





Here is some further information from a website on "Nazi Science, Technology, and Medicine."

https://academic.schafferlibrarycollections.org/s/nazi-science-technology-medicine/item/7079


Description:
Doetzer, Walter, Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung (disinfection, decontamination, disinfestation). Instruction booklet from a series published by the HI-WSS. 1943, 177 pages, scan of the cover. Source: archive.org

I missed your post above slob's Scott, my apologies Sir, also, thank you. I'm grabbing these.

Edit: somehow I actually already had both of these. I need a filing system. Went to load them on one on my micro sd cards for documents, and they were already there.

There has GOT to be a good way for me to keep all this stuff straight.

Maybe some kind of spreadsheet as a card catalog or something, I don't know.

[Scott]

Thanks, sorry if I sounded annoyed. The Internet Archive is enormously valuable, especially since the text of the document is available electronically and not just from an image scan. I guess you could plug the German text into an Online translator that way.

I was slightly annoyed when I searched for Dötzer in the Internet Archive and nothing came up, and I saw that the incorrect author "Doetner" is used.

However, that's okay because a search of either "Doetzer" (correct) or "Doetzner" (incorrect) does come up with the publication that we want.

I would also like to point out the obvious about this document, just in case readers might be interested.

What is highly interesting is that in the Foreword (Vorwort) of the 1943 Dötzer textbook, both Dr. Bruno Tesch, and the infamous SS hygiene degreed-engineer expert, SS-Obersturmführer Kurt Gerstein are both acknowledged.

This is highly important to the story, as we know that Dr. Tesch was hanged by the British in 1946, and because Gerstein apparently hanged himself in French captivity in 1945 after giving a weird-beyond-belief series of statements.

A side note also. One of Gerstein's cringey statements was that 25 million people were gassed by the German government during the war.

Gerstein got this factoid from his boss, SS-Standartenführer Dr. Wilhelm Pfannenstiel, a University of Marburg pathologist and professor.

In 1944, Professor Pfannenstiel delivered a boilerpate professional paper on wartime hygiene measures. Pfannenstiel states that up to that time in the war, 25 million travellers have had their belongings gassed to control the spread of diseases and disease vectors. That is a bit in contrast to Gerstein's claim that 25 million were homicidally gassed.

Pfannenstiel, Wilhelm. Der Moderne Krieg Als Lehrmeister Der Hygiene (Modern War as a Master-Teacher of Hygiene). Stalling, (1944).

https://search.worldcat.org/en/title/14727956

I will put Pfanenstiel's essay back up at RODOH soon. I had gotten it professionally translated from the original German.

[Stubble]

You appear to have misspelled 'professional' as 'annoyed'.

You Sir have a great amount of knowledge and when you share it, I listen.

I've run across your posts in my research repeatedly and you have already given me a great amount of insight that i otherwise would not have.

I will grant that i have not responded to many of those posts (like the one that broke down fumigation vans), but, I've read them none the less, even if I haven't read them here.

I appreciate your posts and contributions and I commend you for your ability to articulate and to share what you know.

A sincere and honest thank you Scott, you rock.

[Scott]

Thanks!

I have already posted a major typo (above) that I can no longer fix because of the board's twenty-four hour editing time limit.

"Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung" should translate to:

"Disinfection, Decontamination and Disinfestation."

Dötzer, Walter. Entkeimung, Entseuchung und Entwesung (trans: Disinfection, Disinfection and Disinfestation). 2., unveränd. Aufl, Urban & Schwarzenberg, (1943).

More later ...

[Archie]

Thanks, sorry if I sounded annoyed. The Internet Archive is enormously valuable, especially since the text of the document is available electronically and not just from an image scan. I guess you could plug the German text into an Online translator that way.

I was slightly annoyed when I searched for Dötzer in the Internet Archive and nothing came up, and I saw that the incorrect author "Doetner" is used.

However, that's okay because a search of either "Doetzer" (correct) or "Doetzner" (incorrect) does come up with the publication that we want.

I would also like to point out the obvious about this document, just in case readers might be interested.

What is highly interesting is that in the Foreword (Vorwort) of the 1943 Dötzer textbook, both Dr. Bruno Tesch, and the infamous SS hygiene degreed-engineer expert. SS-Obersturmführer Kurt Gerstein are both acknowledged.

This is highly important to the story, as we know that Dr. Tesch was hanged by the British in 1946, and because Gerstein apparently hanged himself in French captivity in 1945 after giving a weird-beyond-belief series of statements.

A side note also. One of Gerstein's cringey statements was that 25 million people were gassed by the German government during the war.

Gerstein got this factoid from his boss, SS-Standartenführer Dr. Wilhelm Pfannenstiel, a University of Marburg pathologist and professor.

In 1944, Professor Pfannenstiel delivered a boilerpate professional paper on wartime hygiene measures. Pfannenstiel states that up to that time in the war, 25 million travellers have had their belongings gassed to control the spread of diseases and disease vectors. That is a bit in contrast to Gerstein's claim that 25 million were homicidally gassed.

Pfannenstiel, Wilhelm. Der Moderne Krieg Als Lehrmeister Der Hygiene (Modern War as a Master-Teacher of Hygiene). Stalling, (1944).

https://search.worldcat.org/en/title/14727956

I will put Pfanenstiel's essay back up at RODOH soon. I had gotten it professionally translated from the original German.

There was another recent comment on a similar 26 million figure.
viewtopic.php?p=7083#p7083

Btw, I edited the typo in your other post.

[Scott]

Thanks, Archie.

As promised, here are the scanned PDFs for Degesch-Methods ... wartime German fumigation manual (in English).

Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung m.b.h., Frankfurt a.M., “Degesch”-Methods for Pest Control. Deutsche Gesellschaft für schädlingabekämpfung m.b.h., (1937).

https://search.worldcat.org/en/title/71065305

This time the booklet is broken down into PDFs by page ranges, so five files and a metadata text file is within the folder linked to below.

Degesch-Methods_1937

[Stubble]

Thanks, Archie.

As promised, here are the scanned PDFs for Degesch-Methods ... wartime German fumigation manual (in English).

Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung m.b.h., Frankfurt a.M., “Degesch”-Methods for Pest Control. Deutsche Gesellschaft für schädlingabekämofung m.b.h., (1937).

https://search.worldcat.org/en/title/71065305

This time the booklet is broken down into PDFs by page ranges, so five files and a metadata text file is within the folder linked to below.

Degesch-Methods_1937

*yoink*

Into the pdf collection they go.

Thank you Scott.