curioussoul wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:05 pm
I'll keep it short in case OP is actually interested and not trolling: the Jews were deported to the Occupied Eastern Territories, where the Germans were planning on settling them by the end of the war. These "Jewish regions" were slated to become semi-independent 'states' where Jewry could live outside of Europe. This
policy is extremely well-documented. What's less well-documented is exactly where they went, how they ended up there and what happened to them after the war. Thomas Kues wrote some wonderful articles about this topic about a decade ago, if you search CODOH for "Evidence for the Presence of 'Gassed' Jews in the Occupied Eastern Territories".
I've posited the idea (along with many others, such as Butterfangers) that most of the Jews deported from Poland and transited through the Reinhardt camps ended up in (essentially) open-air shelters and probably starved to death or died from deprivation by the end of the war. It's hard to fathom how extensive the German camp system in the Occupied Eastern Territories was, and to this day most camps are virtually unknown.
What's clear is that German military leaders and local SS authorities in Eastern Europe were swamped on a weekly basis by tens of thousands of deported Jews they had no means of accomodating. The drivers of the deportation policy were in Berlin and, in typical German "leadership fashion", local commanders were simply told by higher-ups to get things done and solve massive logistical problems that simply could not be solved in any serious way, sometimes in mere days or even hours. This created a situation wherein literally millions of people were haphazardly deported to be resettled "in the East" but where local commanders found no way to seriously accomodate them until the end of the war. And when the frontline started shrinking, these people were simply left behind to flee, starve, die, rebel, or be caught up with the Soviets, who sometimes reported on the thousands of Western and Polish Jews who "somehow" had ended up in the far east of Europe. But for the most part, the Soviets did not report on these people because it sought to bolster the narrative of mass extermination they had been disseminating since 1941.
I find this basically compelling. Millions of people must've moved through those camps, all of them undocumented beyond the Polish border because they were going to an entirely new life. Whether that life ended in work camps or resettlement ghettos (that existed only on paper), or behind the Iron Curtain, it's impossible to say. We don't have information. The Soviets were also quick to categorise all deaths in the war as Soviet citizens, never as specific minorities. This muddle combines to make the tracing of individuals or populations impossible.
The orthodox narrative always makes suggestive comments about the inbound capacity of this rail network (for genocidal purposes), leaving out the fact that it was also an ideal hub for sending many people outbound as well. Spending time with survivor testimony makes it clear that many people were transported through, out of, or even
released from Birkenau during the war (and a small handful from the Rheinhardt camps too). These supposed extermination facilities, tip-top secret, were letting many people see their hellish infernos and smell the infamous stench of burning corpses, then sending them on their merry way all over Europe? It makes no sense at all.
The most parsimonious explanation is that the NS state's internal policy documents we do have (on deportation, resettlement, etc.) are honest and straightforward. Jews were moved beyond Poland. The problem is that this puts them nearer the war zone of the most titanic conflict in human history, one of unrivalled brutality, disease, starvation, burning partisans out of hiding places, artillery shellings and airforce bombings that consumed up to 20 million lives. I'm willing to bet many of the "6 million" are part of that number, anywhere from Bialystok to Smolensk -- a front that was almost 650km/400 mi deep during the height of the eastern conflict in 1942-1944. To say that millions of people were lost in this space is an exaggeration.
Beyond the aspect of hot conflict, know from Rassinier that the first days of a new camp or settlement saw prisoners sleeping rough waiting for the wood, nails, wire, etc. to arrive so they cold begin building their own prisons. Many deported jews were older, 40s+, as we know from the decreasing jewish birth rates of the 1920s-30s. They were also superstitious or obstreperous people who refused treatment or concealed signs of lice or disease or refused to trim hair for religious reasons (Crowell's
Gas Chamber of Sherlock Holmes is very informative in this way). Combine this with ignorance of modern scientific disinfection procedures and hygiene, and many probably caused their own demise. Those who could survive typhus and lower food rations were destroyed by physical labour. As that lamentable HBO film about the Wannsee Conference put it, "most of these jews have never lifted anything heavier than a pencil". and were therefore casualties.
Anyone who is not convinced by this ambiguity would do well to think about reported soviet casualties, military and civilian. They range to an absurdly wide degree, something like 30-65 million. If you posit a lower number, anyone can say "what happened to the X million others then?", but it's not a meaningful question. Statistical estimates are not humans. And in the case of Auschwitz, we have many survivor stories of people who were deported there and didn't get a number, but were sent elsewhere. Simple as.
