The Jewish Question

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Re: The Jewish Question

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Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2026 4:37 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 7:09 pm Interesting response.
Unlike you, I am not afraid of arguments that contradict my own current view. On certain subjects I actually seek out contrary views to see if my own understanding is flawed and can be credibly refuted.
What I would regard as ‘Poison for the mind’ would be living in a bubble by ignoring and avoiding ideas that contradict your own.
I think it is better to allow ourselves to try on new ideas, plus developing a mind-set that is open to being corrected.
I find no difficulty in reading opposing views, but you seem to be exceedingly credulous about things put in front of you.
Says the guy who believes and thinks everyone else should accept without criticism the obviously fake and empirically refuted, discrepancy-full, official narrative of Tyler Robinson shooting C. Kirk in the neck with a 30-06 calibre rifle.

You just wrote that reading views opposing to yours on the Ashkenazi ethnic origins to be “poison to the mind”.

P.S. Do you also believe the official WTC 7 collapse narrative?
And the Pentagon hit by a plane narrative?
And the Bondi beach narrative.
Did you wear face-masks and take the Covid-jabs and boosters?
Do you think Putin’s decision to make sure Ukraine didn’t get NATO bases on its territory was unprovoked?
Do you believe Iran are in the wrong for closing the Strait of Hormuz?
Etc., etc.
A ‘holocaust’ believer’s problem is not technical, factual, empirical or archeological — their problem is psychological.
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Re: The Jewish Question

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Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2026 10:15 pm
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2026 4:37 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 7:09 pm Interesting response.
Unlike you, I am not afraid of arguments that contradict my own current view. On certain subjects I actually seek out contrary views to see if my own understanding is flawed and can be credibly refuted.
What I would regard as ‘Poison for the mind’ would be living in a bubble by ignoring and avoiding ideas that contradict your own.
I think it is better to allow ourselves to try on new ideas, plus developing a mind-set that is open to being corrected.
I find no difficulty in reading opposing views, but you seem to be exceedingly credulous about things put in front of you.
Says the guy who believes and thinks everyone else should accept without criticism the obviously fake and empirically refuted, discrepancy-full, official narrative of Tyler Robinson shooting C. Kirk in the neck with a 30-06 calibre rifle.

You just wrote that reading views opposing to yours on the Ashkenazi ethnic origins to be “poison to the mind”.

P.S. Do you also believe the official WTC 7 collapse narrative?
And the Pentagon hit by a plane narrative?
And the Bondi beach narrative.
Did you wear face-masks and take the Covid-jabs and boosters?
Do you think Putin’s decision to make sure Ukraine didn’t get NATO bases on its territory was unprovoked?
Do you believe Iran are in the wrong for closing the Strait of Hormuz?
Etc., etc.
Off-topic. The thread is about Jewish origins.
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Re: The Jewish Question

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Archie wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2026 11:52 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2026 10:15 pm
Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2026 4:37 pmI find no difficulty in reading opposing views, but you seem to be exceedingly credulous about things put in front of you.
Says the guy who believes and thinks everyone else should accept without criticism the obviously fake and empirically refuted, discrepancy-full, official narrative of Tyler Robinson shooting C. Kirk in the neck with a 30-06 calibre rifle.

You just wrote that reading views opposing to yours on the Ashkenazi ethnic origins to be “poison to the mind”.

P.S. Do you also believe the official WTC 7 collapse narrative?
And the Pentagon hit by a plane narrative?
And the Bondi beach narrative.
Did you wear face-masks and take the Covid-jabs and boosters?
Do you think Putin’s decision to make sure Ukraine didn’t get NATO bases on its territory was unprovoked?
Do you believe Iran are in the wrong for closing the Strait of Hormuz?
Etc., etc.
Off-topic. The thread is about Jewish origins.
I understand why it might look that way, but I regard a further response to the claim that anyone reading Arthur Koestler and Professor Shlomo Sands on Jewish origins is reading “poison to the mind” is not “off-topic”.

Plus… The wider angle being alluded to is that Ashkenazis try to control many narratives and make them favourable to themselves.
All of the above examples are in my opinion such controlled narratives.

I suggest the research into ashkenazi ethnicity may well be yet another controlled narrative.

E.g. David Cole is an ashkenazi who refuted the jooish-controlled, holyH, mass-gassing, narrative. He was persecuted for that and so later recanted. Today he criticises revisionists, calls them “deniers” and maintains holyH mass-gassing narratives are essentially accurate, bar a few minor details.
Hmmmm? I wonder why he did / does that? ;)

The belief that modern Jews are biologically descended from the ancient Hebrews/Israelites and who were forced into exile (exodus) is a huge part of the zionist-Ashkenazi narrative supporting their claim to Palestinian territory. But because history of conversion plus genetic, empirical and linguistic evidence disputes/refutes that, I am suggesting they probably also try to control that narrative and the publication of research findings.

My reply was trying to show that someone who gullibly believes other refuted / disputed jooish-favourable narratives (and encourages others to do likewise) accusing me of being “exceedingly credulous” has some irony.

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Iraqi Jews, Iranian Jews, Bukharian Jews, Kurdish Jews, Georgian Jews, Syrian Jews, North African Jews, Sephardi Jews, Yemenite Jews, Ashkenazi Jews etc., etc. are all genetically distinct from each other. Arguing these all have common genetic ancestry is weak. The more obvious explanation is they are diverse groups descended from converts to judaism. Thus they cannot credibly claim to be ancient Israelites/Hebrews.

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HansHill wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:49 pm …for Palestinians to have less European admixture makes perfect sense, because Palestinains did not migrate in the same volume and waves that the Jews did. We are simply pointing out the obvious here.
Ermmmm, well… I regard that statement as circular, self-referential logic and thus not convincing.

But thanks for your reply and for taking the time to provide further reading for me. I appreciate that.

Btw, there are three people posting here at CODOH who I always enjoy reading and whose insight, fairness, logic, erudition and decency I respect. You are one of them. (So despite our current disagreement on this topic, I want you to know that.)

HansHill wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:49 pm WS, this seems like a topic that you are deeply interested in so I am surprised that you haven't taken it upon yourself to at least read these works. I will leave a link below to the book I am citing, and you can review at your leisure.
https://annas-archive.gl/slow_download/ ... 317567/0/0
Actually, I do not think I am “deeply interested” in it.

I read Koestler about ten years ago after coming across the Khazar theory, so was intrigued.
I wasn’t totally convinced, but found it — plus the outraged response of zionist-jooish moderators on wikipedia — fascinating.

I then bought Shlomo Sand’s corroboration of it when it came out to see if his research was more convincing. As I previously mentioned I only got through perhaps a third of the book as I found it too boring.

I confess that I have never come across Kevin McDonald or his work before. So I followed your link, then searched to learn more about him.
I laughed out loud when I saw the wiki page on him. :D

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