US Holocaust memorial museum

[weffdsv1231]

Has any CODOH member ever thought about visiting the US Holocaust Memorial museum in DC and recording a video of themselves debunking all of the exhibitions? Also they could talk to the kids there on school field trips about the truth.

[HansHill]

No.

What do you think we should say?

[pilgrimofdark]

Archie graciously provided a space for anyone to submit a best case for the Holocaust on this forum. One member has been working on an essay for nearly the entire year, so it should be good once completed.

In exchange, forum members have offered to work with the USHMM and Yad Vashem to create best cases for revisionism sections of their websites and museums.

I mocked up some online sections that they haven't put up yet, but these things take time.

[weffdsv1231]

No.
What do you think we should say?

Tell school students who are visiting there that the only known documentation of deaths shows 271k died and most of them were christians not jews, tell them about the allied bombings supply lines and blockade of germany, also the soviet holodomor

[Stubble]

If one were actually going to do this, without getting kicked off the grounds and permanently banned, the best way to go about it would be to walk through the tour and film it, then, to go through and narrate over the footage describing the context for the various imagery and displays.

Making a scene on the tour is likely to lead to ejection, as is unsolicited conversation with youth groups attending the museum.

After the media is produced, stickers with a qr code linking to the generated presentation could be placed in conspicuous places so that people could view the content if they want to.

That is how I would approach a project like this.

It would of course be important to have your facts in order and not to say outrageous things, but, to simply provide the context to the imagery and displays so that the dishonest presentation by the USHMM could be highlighted for the uninitiated.

[Archie]

One member has been working on an essay for nearly the entire year, so it should be good once completed.

I'd assumed he'd given up, but upon further investigation I see he was still working on it at least as late as May.
https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 84&#p24584

He hasn't been around lately, but we can hope he quit posting so he can finish his masterpiece without distraction. By now he very possibly has enough for a whole book and is in talks with major publishers.

[Archie]

If one were actually going to do this, without getting kicked off the grounds and permanently banned,

Attempting any sort of stunt at USHHM sounds very unwise to me. They'd probably arrest you on federal terrorism charges.

[Stubble]

I could see TPTB going for a 'test case' to see if they could molest someone and prosecute them for First Amendment Activity in the current climate.

If I recall correctly they (The USHMM) had a ban from the property for Ernst Zündel, Bradley Smith, David Cole, and probably others like Germar Rudolf, David McCalden etc.

They may be itching for somebody to engage in some kind of silliness on the grounds so they can crucify them. I don't know.

Even given that, just putting the dime in the box and filming the tour should be fine. To then narrate over it and to sticker where there are other stickers with a QR Code should also be fine.

I am not an attorney, so, take it with a grain of salt of course. I can't see it not being protected speech, especially if you are 100% correct and truthful in your narration. Not that truth is a requisite of speech of course, just that you wouldn't provide an rope for any persecution if you stuck to it.

One thing I would not do is interrupt the tour or go up to children and start talking to them with what the adults are going to assume is 'rabbid antisemitic lies'. That approach is not something I can see playing out well. Would it result in terrorism charges? Depends, did you bring any toenail clippers or a pencil?

[Eye of Zyclone]

No.
What do you think we should say?

Tell school students who are visiting there that the only known documentation of deaths shows 271k died and most of them were christians not jews, tell them about the allied bombings supply lines and blockade of germany, also the soviet holodomor

... and also tell them that those inmates died of diseases in a major health disaster that could not possibly have been avoided under such circumstances and was primarily due to the war itself and especially the Allied policy of obliteration bombing. Something that is important to explain because 271k deaths seem like huge casualties to people today, at a time when such massive mortality is unknown in developed countries where modern antibiotics and other medicines are readily available.

[Hektor]

No.
What do you think we should say?

Tell school students who are visiting there that the only known documentation of deaths shows 271k died and most of them were christians not jews, tell them about the allied bombings supply lines and blockade of germany, also the soviet holodomor

... and also tell them that those inmates died of diseases in a major health disaster that could not possibly have been avoided under such circumstances and was primarily due to the war itself and especially the Allied policy of obliteration bombing. Something that is important to explain because 271k deaths seem like huge casualties to people today, at a time when such massive mortality is unknown in developed countries where modern antibiotics and other medicines are readily available.
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The average person exposed to Holocaust museums probably won't have heard about typhus or other epidemics. They also shape an image of those events placing this into circumstances of their own conditions, well-fed, well-supported, well-functioning. So any death will be attributed to intended killing or malice

[Eye of Zyclone]

The average person exposed to Holocaust museums probably won't have heard about typhus or other epidemics. They also shape an image of those events placing this into circumstances of their own conditions, well-fed, well-supported, well-functioning. So any death will be attributed to intended killing or malice

But hunger in Gaza will be attributed to deceptive photos staged by Hamas and just dismissed accordingly. Normies...