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[Nessie]

I don't have to bend the support band Nessie. I'd have to kick the locks open or kick the door off the hinge pins by fucking sheering them. By kicking the door. With my bare feet.

For the record, I could definitely bend that banding, but, I would have to remove it from the wood. It looks like the band's were secured with lags. That would take a tool. Kicking the door off the hinge pins by sheering them or kicking the 'locks' to failure on the other hand would be almost effortless.

I guess I'm just going to have to mock up a Van Pelt style door and show you.

Tauber on the gas chamber door;

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=82890

"It was a wooden door, made of two layers of short pieces of wood arranged like parquet. Between these layers there was a single sheet of material sealing the edges of the door and the rabbets of the frame were also fitted with sealing strips of felt. At about head height for an average man this door had a round glass peephole. On the other side of the door, i.e. on the gas chamber side, this opening was protected by a hemispherical grid. This grid was fitted because the people in the gas chamber, feeling they were going to die, used to break the glass of the peep-hole. But the grid still did not provide sufficient protection and similar incidents recurred. The opening was blocked with a piece of metal or wood. The people going to be gassed and those in the gas chamber damaged the electrical installations, tearing the cables out and damaging the ventilation equipment. The door was closed hermetically from the corridor side by means of iron bars which were screwed tight."

So, this type of door, reinforced with iron bars. You have to force off the iron bars, that are attached each side into the door frame.



You have to be naked and you are dying from being gassed to complete the comparison.

[Nazgul]

You have to be naked and you are dying from being gassed to complete the comparison.

Interesting point Nessie. It is possible that many individuals in an extreme state of emaciation, known as Muselmänner, and those nearing death were subjected to euthanasia under the 1939 memorandum. Historical accounts suggest this occurred to people from Corfu who suffered terminal renal failure after nine days without water. In these accounts, it is claimed that deaths were accelerated through the use of small amounts of pesticide. These points are presented for consideration and reflection.

[Keen]

You have to be naked and you are dying from being gassed to complete the comparison.

Interesting point Nessie. It is possible that many individuals in an extreme state of emaciation, known as Muselmänner, and those nearing death were subjected to euthanasia under the 1939 memorandum. Historical accounts suggest this occurred to people from Corfu who suffered terminal renal failure after nine days without water. In these accounts, it is claimed that deaths were accelerated through the use of small amounts of pesticide. These points are presented for consideration and reflection.

Nazgul, your stupidity is breathtaking. Those points were presented to show what an idiot you are.

"Extreme state of emaciation" isn't a part of the equation that Stubble and roberta are debating.

And again, look at Nazguls word choice: "possible" - "suggest" - "claimed."

[Keen]

I don't have to bend the support band Nessie. I'd have to kick the locks open or kick the door off the hinge pins by fucking sheering them. By kicking the door. With my bare feet.

For the record, I could definitely bend that banding, but, I would have to remove it from the wood. It looks like the band's were secured with lags. That would take a tool. Kicking the door off the hinge pins by sheering them or kicking the 'locks' to failure on the other hand would be almost effortless.

I guess I'm just going to have to mock up a Van Pelt style door and show you.

And don't forget, in this scenario, you wouldn't be alone.

[Stubble]

Nessie, argue with Jan and Van Pelt. You don't get to just go pick a door you like the picture of. By the way, the locks on that door are probably the same simple flat iron bars, which would bend like taffy, not to mention those small diameter pins upon which the door is hinged.

The door is in absolutely no way escape proofed, and is wholly inadequate for purpose.

[Nessie]

Nessie, argue with Jan and Van Pelt. You don't get to just go pick a door you like the picture of. By the way, the locks on that door are probably the same simple flat iron bars, which would bend like taffy, not to mention those small diameter pins upon which the door is hinged.

The door is in absolutely no way escape proofed, and is wholly inadequate for purpose.

In your opinion. You could not bend the iron bars seen in the mock-up of the gas chamber door the photo of the original door, and you have misrepresented the thickness of the wood used and claimed the door is hollow. You rely on your imagination, rather than what is evidenced. The Germans were perfectly capable of making doors solid enough to survive attempts to break through them.

[Stubble]

Nessie, argue with Jan and Van Pelt. You don't get to just go pick a door you like the picture of. By the way, the locks on that door are probably the same simple flat iron bars, which would bend like taffy, not to mention those small diameter pins upon which the door is hinged.

The door is in absolutely no way escape proofed, and is wholly inadequate for purpose.

In your opinion. You could not bend the iron bars seen in the mock-up of the gas chamber door the photo of the original door, and you have misrepresented the thickness of the wood used and claimed the door is hollow. You rely on your imagination, rather than what is evidenced. The Germans were perfectly capable of making doors solid enough to survive attempts to break through them.

The door is hollow, and it had wood shavings and concrete in the hollow. It was not a solid door. The wood is basically pallet wood. It is thin.

The locks are the largest problem here though, and would bend like taffy.

The only person misrepresenting anything here is you.