Reply to Nazgul on Treblinka and Dr. Larsen

[Stubble]

Right after you explain to me how the population of Seattle can fit on the head of a pin.

[Nessie]

Right after you explain to me how the population of Seattle can fit on the head of a pin.

I have already given you the evidence and dimensions of the area where the main mass graves were located. There was also at least one mass grave in the Lazarette section of the camp. You have been shown the archaeological reports that describe and map out where the mass graves were located and the 1944 aerial photo.

How is my inability to explain, to your satisfaction, how c800,000 were buried inside TII, proof that there are no mass graves containing the cremated remains of c800,000?

[Stubble]

Simply, because it is a fabricated misrepresentation of reality, and when examined, your claim '56 Olympic swimming pools' falls apart into 6,000,000 pieces.

2.3 Olympic swimming pools messy, and for the claim, a thimble...

[Nessie]

Simply, because it is a fabricated misrepresentation of reality, and when examined, your claim '56 Olympic swimming pools' falls apart into 6,000,000 pieces.

2.3 Olympic swimming pools messy, and for the claim, a thimble...

Again, can you please stop dodging and explain why an inability to convince you that there is evidence of multiple mass graves and the cremated remains of c800,000 buried at TII, evidence to prove nothing like that number of people are buried there?

Using your argument, if you cannot convince me that there is evidence the British firebombed Dresden in 1945, that is evidence to prove it did not happen. You must be able to see, that does not work as an argument.

[Stubble]

Messy, it's about the evidence, it's not about what you say the evidence is and claim I'm ignoring.

You yourself went from 56 Olympic swimming pools to 2.3 in the course of one thread.

Now you are back to 56.

Your are a joke, and you don't have evidence, because there isn't evidence for the claim.

If you actually do have evidence, for the love of god show it and quit holding out.

[Keen]

Your obsession with Treblinka is a historically irrelevant distraction... To ask for a mass grave for a victim of 'Industrial Culling' is to admit you don't understand the very mechanism you're trying to mock.

Says Mr. "industrial culling center" who cravenly refuses to answer these simple questions:

5 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

10 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

20 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

25 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

[Keen]

The corpses were buried naked, decomposing as more corpses were piled on top... The reason why I have often used the 56 Olympic sized swimming pool comparison, is to show the size of the area where the main mass graves were located. I can easily picture that as enough space for so many to be buried in.

5 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

10 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

20 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

25 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

[Keen]

Witness estimations and documentary evidence proves that c800,000 people were buried there

A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 15 alleged graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)

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What are you waiting for nesserto?

What are you so afraid of?

[Keen]

You ask to be shown the evidence, you are shown the evidence, you deny the evidence.
You ask to be shown the evidence, you are shown the evidence, you deny the evidence.
You ask to be shown the evidence, you are shown the evidence, you deny the evidence.

nesserta,

5 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

10 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

20 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

25 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

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[Keen]

- that a 2011 geophysical survey locates 5 pits in a row

Nesserto:

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits, G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54 and that they exist. But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.

CSC:

Without intrusive activity it is not possible to conclusively determine the nature of these pits.

[Keen]

I have already given you the evidence and dimensions of the area where the main mass graves were located. There was also at least one mass grave in the Lazarette section of the camp. You have been shown the archaeological reports that describe and map out where the mass graves were located and the 1944 aerial photo.

How is my inability to explain, to your satisfaction, how c800,000 were buried inside TII, proof that there are no mass graves containing the cremated remains of c800,000?

nesserta,

5 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

10 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

20 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

25 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

[Keen]

Again, can you please stop dodging

[Stubble]

I have already given you the evidence and dimensions of the area where the main mass graves were located. There was also at least one mass grave in the Lazarette section of the camp. You have been shown the archaeological reports that describe and map out where the mass graves were located and the 1944 aerial photo.

How is my inability to explain, to your satisfaction, how c800,000 were buried inside TII, proof that there are no mass graves containing the cremated remains of c800,000?

nesserta,

5 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

10 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

20 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

25 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

Let me take a crack at these.

5- less than a dozen
10- 0
15- 0
20- 0
25- null

[Nessie]

Messy, it's about the evidence, it's not about what you say the evidence is and claim I'm ignoring.

You yourself went from 56 Olympic swimming pools to 2.3 in the course of one thread.

Now you are back to 56.

The area in which the main mass graves are located is the equivalent to 56 Olympic sized swimming pools. I have no idea where you get the 2.3 from, unless it is the volume of some of the pits found during the 2011 survey.

Your are a joke, and you don't have evidence, because there isn't evidence for the claim.

If you actually do have evidence, for the love of god show it and quit holding out.

A neutral, who read the evidence from eyewitnesses, saw the aerial photo and studied the archaeological reports, would see that there is the evidence to prove mass graves for c800,000 and that you are just denying that.

Your inability to explain why your disbelief of the evidence is in itself evidence c800,000 were not buried and cremated at TII, is proof your ability to reliably investigate is flawed. If you knew how to investigate, you would know that to prove there are no mass graves for c800,000 at TII, you would need eyewitnesses who said there had been no such graves, documents showing hundreds of thousands left the camp and GPR proving the ground was never dug into.

[Keen]

there is the evidence to prove mass graves for c800,000

Evidence FOR mass graves is not evidence OF mass graves.

OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.

Foundational legal question: Is it reasonable to doubt that the remains of 2.145 million Jews are currently buried in the 100 specifically identified locations in question - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Foundational legal principles that easily expose this transparent archaeological hoax: BURDEN OF PRODUCTION, BURDEN OF PERSUASION & BURDEN OF PROOF.

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

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