The Actual Jewish Death Toll

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Stubble wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 5:44 am Around 2,300,000 'missing' and 602,511 missing presumed dead under the stewardship of 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔯𝔡 ℜ𝔢𝔦𝔠𝔥

https://holocaustencyclopedia.com/conce ... ewish/489/

Natural attrition from the conditions based on other cohorts indicates roughly one and a quarter million were expected to die during the war.

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That was one of the things with the Holocaust narrative I always found astonishing. All other groups had people dead and missing. With Germans of people considered missing was millions and of those 2 million were presumed as 'def. dead' in 1990. With other nations it was similar, albeit the figures may be smaller. But with Jews there wasn't really such a thing like a missing category. They were automatically presumed dead, if their whereabouts were not known. That's especially strange for a highly mobile social group like Jews.
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Nazgul wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 10:09 pm [...]
Holy Shit Herr Wraith.

Where to start with that ball of exterminationism.

Please link me a posted thread here so I may respond without further derailing this thread.
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 10:26 pm Holy Shit Herr Wraith.
Where to start with that ball of exterminationism.
Please link me a posted thread here so I may respond without further derailing this thread.
I’ve created a new thread for the 14f13 euthanasia program. I first looked into this a decade ago on the RODOH forums after Nessie brought up ramp selections. At the time, he wrongly argued that the termination of 'useless eaters' was a policy applied only to Jews. I believe this program is the source of the gassing claims and the 'Zyklon B rubbish.' The fear surrounding 14f13 made the selections at the ramps seem random to those arriving. While the infirm were targeted at Sobibor, Birkenau was different because the main issue there was managing typhus.
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Nazgul wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 10:37 pm
Stubble wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 10:26 pm Holy Shit Herr Wraith.
Where to start with that ball of exterminationism.
Please link me a posted thread here so I may respond without further derailing this thread.
I have started a separate thread regarding Aktion 14f13. (here and RODOH). My investigation into this began ten years ago with posts on the second incarnation of RODOH. This research was prompted by Nessie’s inquiries into ramp selections and the 'euthanasia' of those deemed 'useless eaters'—which he incorrectly assumed applied exclusively to Jewish prisoners. In my view, 14f13 is the actual origin of the gassing allegations and the Zyklon B narrative. The program created such a profound fear of the unknown among those at the ramps that it made selections appear indiscriminate. While the 'decrepit' were a primary focus at camps like Sobibor, I contend that Birkenau was an exception, as the primary driver there was the typhus epidemic."
Found it.

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=753

I will talk about terminal, untreatable illness there, along with what defined 'able to work' and the phasing out completely of the program.

Primary selection at Auschwitz Birkenau, for example, was to determine if people needed to go into isolation upon arrival.

I have no doubt some 14f13 happened there, but, it didn't happen on the ramp.

Again, we can really get into this in your thread covering it. This thread is about the actual death toll.
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Stubble wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 10:43 pm I have no doubt some 14f13 happened there, but, it didn't happen on the ramp.
They were not killed on the ramp obviously but selected there. Dr Mengele is frequently mentioned doing the selections.
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And they literally had a medical isolation wing at Birkenau and 'recovery camps' were a thing. People who were too ill to be cared for at Auschwitz Birkenau were sent to recovery camps like Bergen Belsen.

We are derailing this thread Nazgul. Can we move it over to your other thread?
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Stubble wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 11:14 pm And they literally had a medical isolation wing at Birkenau and 'recovery camps' were a thing. People who were too ill to be cared for at Auschwitz Birkenau were sent to recovery camps like Bergen Belsen.

We are derailing this thread Nazgul. Can we move it over to your other thread?
Go to RODOH and make a thread in the CODOH section if you like. I am about to make a significant post on the 14f13 system how it changed from doctors, to T4, then guards and misuse of power.
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