Auschwitz babies killed at birth?

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The number of babies allowed to live doesn't matter; what the narrative maintains is that 230,000 children were deported to Auschwitz, but only 650 survived.

Another point they will emphasize is that the minority were Jewish, since Jews registered at the camp to work would also be a minority.
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Apart from wondering how this woman was on top of a filthy coal cart giving birth I have some other questions and feel that once again dem jews do too much talking and love exaggerating because Oy Vey they simply cannot stop with the stories Schlomo... They sort of give the game away to anyone who knows the basics about the holocaust claims.

So let's assume this Clarke woman is telling what she believes to be the truth as she must have been told by her mother some years later.

Her mother had been sent to a death camp and then sent away again (must have run out of gas or water in dem shower blocks), then ended up in a work camp from which she was removed and sent to what is claimed to be a notorious camp of mass murder, Mauthausen. All the while she is pregnant and one can assume that she wasn't in the best of health and wasn't getting the food she would have needed etc.

So she decided that giving birth on a coal cart was a good idea but couldn't possibly have done this without help, aid and assistance especially given that she would not have been able to feed the child from her own breast milk.

So she must have received help from other inmates and most likely also from the camp authorities/medical service. She lived, the baby lived and everyone was happy ever after thus proving that the Germans were not trying to kill every jew they could lay their grubby mitts on and that for some odd reason inmates were sent all over Poland and Germany and in between to serve the needs of the work camps and war effort instead of being deaded as the gullible and stupid would have you believe.
Of the four million jews under German control, six million died and five million survived!
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TlsMS93 wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:31 am The number of babies allowed to live doesn't matter; what the narrative maintains is that 230,000 children were deported to Auschwitz, but only 650 survived.

Another point they will emphasize is that the minority were Jewish, since Jews registered at the camp to work would also be a minority.
But if Jews were the minority of people allowed in the camp to work, then the majority of the gas chamber and other atrocity stories would come from non-Jews.
But stories like this from non-Jews seem few and far between.
Why don't we hear arrival stories from non-Jews such as "we arrived in the cattle cars but there were no selections by Mengele because we weren't Jews"
Or
"They selected people out of the 4 hour roll calls for the gas chambers, but because we weren't Jews we were exempt"
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So far I have Liz Saloman and Barbara Puc as babies reportedly delivered by the midwife Stanislawa Leszczynska and surviving to adulthood. It would be interesting to know how many others there were. Some websites (e.g. here) reported that she attended a reunion with Auschwitz babies on January 27, 1970. Not much detail is provided. Perhaps someone who knows Polish could pursue this matter and, if nothing else, find more names.

Leszczynska herself wrote a very short autobiography which can be read here. I'm not sure what to say about this. On the one hand I want to view her respectfully as someone who actually tried to save lives under dire circumstances, and I want to treat her story with all due charity. Parts of it sound quite credible and are actually very believable compared to the way it has been misquoted and misinterpreted since. On the other hand she was definitely telling some tales. For example, could any part of this paragraph be true?
Until May 1943 all the children born in Auschwitz were murdered in a most cruel way—drowned in a barrel of water. This was done by two German women, Schwester (“sister”) Klara and Schwester Pfani. Sister Klara was a midwife by profession, and she was sent to Auschwitz for infanticide. When I was appointed midwife an injunction was put on her prohibiting her from assisting at deliveries because she was a Berufsverbreherin (viz. she had committed an offence in her professional capacity). She was appointed to perform a job for which she was far better suited. She was also appointed to a management job as Blockälteste (senior block officer). She was given an assistant, Sister Pfani, a ginger freckled streetwalker. Each birth was followed by a loud noise of something gurgling coming from the room of these two, and then the sound of splashing water, sometimes for a fairly long time. Not long afterwards the mother could see her baby’s body thrown out in front of the block and being pulled to pieces by rats.
Confusingly, Leszczynska claimed babies were tattooed in two different ways: an unofficial way that she came up with and an official way done before killing them.
To secure a chance of identifying the abducted children at some time in the future and returning them to their mothers, I devised a way of tattooing the babies due for deportation. I did it in a way the SS‑men did not notice. Many a mother was consoled by the thought that one day she would find her lost child.

Jewish children continued to be drowned. This was done with unrelenting cruelty. There was no chance of concealing a Jewish baby or hiding it among non‑Jewish children. “Sisters” Klara and Pfani took turns to keep an eye on Jewish women in labour, which made it impossible to keep the birth of a Jewish baby secret. As soon as it was born it was tattooed with the mother’s prison number, drowned in the barrel, and thrown out of the block.
Again, why would the Nazis tattoo babies before killing them? This nonsense makes the claim of infanticide considerably less believable.

Leszczynska is her own source for the claim that she delivered 3,000 babies. Her story ends with her estimates of the numbers. She claimed that thirty babies survived over her time there, plus "a few hundred" were taken and Germanized. This would mean ~330 babies survived, well more than zero.

The same website also has/had a 1975 article about Leszczynska, readable here. It quotes a few other survivors on her work, but only briefly. One loosely corroborates the most incredible claim: "I remember prison numbers being tattooed on their delicate little bodies, only to send them to be gassed next day or to condemn to death by starvation." This is once again nonsense. Besides which it contradicts the Holocaust doctrine of today. When someone asks about tattoos today, the narrative defenders insist: "Prisoners sent directly to the gas chambers were not tattooed." Well, were they or weren't they? Do the historians and museums not find this witness to be credible?
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CBS's 60 Minutes has a special this Sunday on baby survivors Eva Clarke, Hana Berger-Moran, and Mark Olsky. It is advertised here. These three baby survivors have recently been on a media blitz, for whatever reason.

Their story was originally told in a 2015 book the USHMM sells called Born Survivors. It is about three pregnant mothers in Auschwitz who somehow avoided Mengele's selection of death, then were shipped to Mauthausen, all giving birth around the same time. Excerpt from USHMM:
Having concealed their condition from infamous Nazi doctor Josef Mengele, they are forced to work and almost starve to death, living in daily fear of the SS detecting their pregnancies.

[...] All believe they will die, but then a miracle occurs. The gas chamber runs out of Zyklon B [...]
These aren't strictly speaking Auschwitz babies, but the pattern is familiar. How did three 8-months-pregnant mothers conceal their pregnancies in a place with forced communal showering and inspections?
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TlsMS93 wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:31 am The number of babies allowed to live doesn't matter; what the narrative maintains is that 230,000 children were deported to Auschwitz, but only 650 survived.

Another point they will emphasize is that the minority were Jewish, since Jews registered at the camp to work would also be a minority.
I get they'd use the deportation records to arrive at the figure for deported children. But how would they know the number of "survivors"?
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