"Resettlement", why bother?

[Stubble]

I haven't popped into this thread because I considered it 'asked and answered'. I find 'where'd they go' central to my study. Of course, the first place I looked was in the dirt where I was told they were.

Over time I have come to accept that many of those claimed to be 'missing' are not only not in the dirt, but, may never have existed at all. We are over 80 years after the fact and we don't even know who is missing, what's less their disposition.

I am of course, still working on a book about this odd state of affairs. I still have more mulling to do, which I find difficult for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the daunting volume of records to winnow. It leaves my brains like tapioca both in consistency and effectiveness with regard to thought. It is, mind numbing.

I greatly wish I could automate parts of this process, but, unfortunately, I am having problems with OCR and Machine Translations going directly from reels to script, then to English. It, isn't easy.

I do wish the other side of the coin would take up the challenge and tell me at least who is missing, if not where they goed.

[bombsaway]

Well do you think it's surprising or interesting that there is no evidence for Reinhardt resettlement whereas it exists in copious amounts for other, much smaller resettlements?

How do you resolve this?

[Stubble]

I find it curiously vexing. I suppose that is the best way to describe my feeling with regard to unaccounted for jews, missing jews.

What would have put an end to the search would have been finding evidence that these missing jews were put in a hole, buried, dug up from the frost, set on bbq grilles made out of rail road tracks and erupted into corpse volcanoes fueled by 'Christmas Trees' and the fat from jewish witches, as witches obviously self immolate as described in the literature.

Sure, I can't find living jews, but, the other side of the coin can't find dead ones, which should be almost infinitely easier.

Regarding the 'no evidence of resentment' schtick, give it a rest. Yes there is evidence of resettlement, you just say it is euphemism because you don't see living jews, with your goggles, you can see dead ones in every grain of sand.

[bombsaway]

I find it curiously vexing. I suppose that is the best way to describe my feeling with regard to unaccounted for jews, missing jews.

What would have put an end to the search would have been finding evidence that these missing jews were put in a hole, buried, dug up from the frost, set on bbq grilles made out of rail road tracks and erupted into corpse volcanoes fueled by 'Christmas Trees' and the fat from jewish witches, as witches obviously self immolate as described in the literature.

Sure, I can't find living jews, but, the other side of the coin can't find dead ones, which should be almost infinitely easier.

Regarding the 'no evidence of resentment' schtick, give it a rest. Yes there is evidence of resettlement, you just say it is euphemism because you don't see living jews, with your goggles, you can see dead ones in every grain of sand.

No w the Reinhardt Jews (a cohort of at least 1.5 million) there is only the Korherr report. You're correct about there being a lot of evidence of other resettlements.

This discrepancy is what I'm asking you to address, which you and the other posters in this thread have been evasive about.

[Stubble]

It isn't just korherr though...

/shrug

[bombsaway]

It isn't just korherr though...

/shrug

It actually literally is. There is no other direct evidence that Reinhardt Jews were resettled. You have to speculate, whereas you don't for the other resettlements mentioned in this thread.

If you're saying there is direct evidence, I formally challenge you to present it, as per forum rules.

[Stubble]

Let me dig. I swear I've run in to resettlement memoranda regarding RKO (my current focus).

I suppose your duck will be to say;

But you can't prove this is a Reinhardt jew...

Hell, even in 'The Black Book of Polish jewry' they say;

about 4,000 people, are known to have been sent eastwards in the direction of Brzesc and Malachowicze, allegedly to be employed on work behind the front lines.

p158 of the pdf, p122 of a physical copy.

https://odysee.com/@Stubble:4/The-Black ... 81943%29:b

[bombsaway]

Let me dig. I swear I've run in to resettlement memoranda regarding RKO (my current focus).

I suppose your duck will be to say;

But you can't prove this is a Reinhardt jew...

Hell, even in 'The Black Book of Polish jewry' they say;

about 4,000 people, are known to have been sent eastwards in the direction of Brzesc and Malachowicze, allegedly to be employed on work behind the front lines.

p158 of the pdf, p122 of a physical copy.

https://odysee.com/@Stubble:4/The-Black ... 81943%29:b

This is it? A secondary source, no witnesses given or anything that would allow us to investigate further. This doesn't meet the criteria of direct evidence, which again exists in copious amounts for the other resettlements. The massive discrepancy still exists. It would exist even if you had a tiny bit of direct evidence, but there's nothing - other than Korherr - so massive is an understatement honestly. An explanation is needed. Is it a coincidence or what?

If you've found an RKO memoranda evincing Reinhardt resettlement (this would be direct evidence) and haven't shared it or don't remember it, you've done revisionism a great disservice.

[Stubble]

That was 'handy' the other memoranda are tangled in notes and buried in rolls of microfilm currently.

And of course, your pivot will come when it is presented;

'Is this a Reinhardt jew?'

And so, before I present them, I will have to identify the jews talked about as to leave no question and to cut that off at the pass.

With regard to the black book, more the point was that even they point to jews transited east, even if but a handful.

[bombsaway]

That was 'handy' the other memoranda are tangled in notes and buried in rolls of microfilm currently.

And of course, your pivot will come when it is presented;

'Is this a Reinhardt jew?'

And so, before I present them, I will have to identify the jews talked about as to leave no question and to cut that off at the pass.

With regard to the black book, more the point was that even they point to jews transited east, even if but a handful.

Regarding the black book, that's just evidence they weren't pure propagandists. But these are rumors, uncorroborated reports. Around this time Herman Kruk also wrote in his diary that Jews were arriving from the west, and later corrected this to say that he had been misinformed, only their furniture had arrived.

My approach to the Reinhardt Jews would be exactly the same as with the other documented resettlements.

For these you have not only transport documents, but evidence of their arrival and maintenance in whatever areas they were being sent to. A big difference between resettlement and labor deployment is the presence of non-working Jews. Thus the German and Romanian Jews who were resettled were placed in ghettos, which is evidenced in a variety of ways. Some Hungarian Jews were placed in camps where there families were also allowed to stay, and then there were non-working Hungarian Jews that were maintained for purposes of 'ransom'

you can see that here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kastner_train with the description of the Ungarnlager

The evidence that non-working Jews were the main deportation focus of Reinhardt is overwhelming

Himmler's document here explicitly calls for every Jew to be "resettled" except for those in labor camps https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/himmler- ... ution.html

Joseph Goebbels noted in his diary entry of 27 March 1942:
"From the General Government, starting at Lublin, the Jews are now being deported to the east. A fairly barbaric procedure not to be described in more detail is used, and there is not much left of the Jews themselves. In general, one can say that 60% of them have to be liquidated, while only 40% can still be used for work." (considering 300,000 Jews stayed in the GG, the vast majority of those sent to the East would have been in the "liquidated" camp)

Memo of the official for population policy in the district Lublin of 27 March 1942:
"1.) It would be useful to divide the Jewish transports coming to the Lublin district into workable and non-workable Jews at the departure station. If this distinction at the departure station is not possible, one might have to proceed to separate the transport in Lublin according to the above-mentioned criteria.

2.) Unfit Jews all come to Belzec, the outermost border station in the Zamosz district."

Minutes of the 5th working meeting of the department heads in Krakow on 11 May 1942:
"As State Secretary Dr. Bühler reports that, according to recent news, the plan is to dissolve the Jewish ghettos, keep the Jews who are fit for work and continue to deport the rest of them to the east."

Minutes of the police meeting in Krakow on 18 June 1942:
"The Jewish question is settled in the city of Lublin. The previous Jewish quarter has been evacuated and the able-bodied Jews are housed outside the city in a special district.

[...]

In Radom and Czestochowa, Jewish workers will have to be retained for the armaments industries. Of course, the immediate family members of these workers have to be left behind as well, but everyone else will be resettled."

Instructions of the commissioner for the resettlement to the Jewish Council in Warsaw of 22 July 1942:
"All Jewish persons, regardless of their age and gender, who live in Warsaw are resettled to the east. The following are excluded from the resettlement:

a) All Jewish persons who are employed by the German authority or branch offices and can provide proof of this;

b) all Jewish persons who belong to the Judenrat and are employees of the Judenrat (the deadline is the date of publication of the order);

c) all Jewish persons who work for Reich-German companies and can provide proof of this ;

d) all able-bodied Jews who have not yet been included in the work process, these must be barracked in the Jewish residential area;

[...]"

So just like with the other resettlements, you would expect to see Polish non-working Jews being housed somehow. This would be definitive evidence of resettlement but it doesn't exist, despite the much much larger population that was apparently moved.

[Monsieur Sceptique]

That was 'handy' the other memoranda are tangled in notes and buried in rolls of microfilm currently.

And of course, your pivot will come when it is presented;

'Is this a Reinhardt jew?'

And so, before I present them, I will have to identify the jews talked about as to leave no question and to cut that off at the pass.

With regard to the black book, more the point was that even they point to jews transited east, even if but a handful.

I still want to see your work when it's will be done. It's could be interesting to know about it .