Callafangers' statements of fact / rebuttable presumptions about Belzec and Sobibor

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I think you have to show them the studies are incriminating to some degree and don't obviously refute orthodoxy.

Not really, the studies show that there were some people buried inside the assumed time frame. Now that's expected in a war zone / camps with prisoners at least to some degree. There are/were indeed some records on the mortality in camps... And revisionist acknowledge those. So, finding remains indicating that several thousand corpses may have been buried there, doesn't contradict or shatter the Revisionist Thesis at all. In fact it would be strange if NOTHING was found there. What isn't found there is what you'd expect, if those sites were indeed extermination centers as is widely alleged. They didn't even have crematoria nor mass disposal facilities although the technology was indeed available at the time.

In his grave descriptions at Belzec Kola specifies thousands of cubic meters of crematory content, arranged in layers in huge graves. If this was commonplace show me other sites that have this feature.

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I think you have to show them the studies are incriminating to some degree and don't obviously refute orthodoxy.

Not really, the studies show that there were some people buried inside the assumed time frame. Now that's expected in a war zone / camps with prisoners at least to some degree. There are/were indeed some records on the mortality in camps... And revisionist acknowledge those. So, finding remains indicating that several thousand corpses may have been buried there, doesn't contradict or shatter the Revisionist Thesis at all. In fact it would be strange if NOTHING was found there. What isn't found there is what you'd expect, if those sites were indeed extermination centers as is widely alleged. They didn't even have crematoria nor mass disposal facilities although the technology was indeed available at the time.

In his grave descriptions at Belzec Kola specifies thousands of cubic meters of crematory content, arranged in layers in huge graves. If this was commonplace show me other sites that have this feature.

Really? If that was the case why hasn't anything like this been visually shown here?


All what has been shown in this thread for instance is soil from layers that could contain some remains. But nothing like 'cubic meters of crematory content'.

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Really? If that was the case why hasn't anything like this been visually shown here?


All what has been shown in this thread for instance is soil from layers that could contain some remains. But nothing like 'cubic meters of crematory content'.

Yes, that they haven't been evidenced other than the grave descriptions and core sample illustrations is Keen's main argument. The argument here is about whether Kola lied about these results, made methodological errors, or they're accurate.