Russell Crowe can't save this Nuremberg Trial Dog.

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Russell Crowe can't save this Nuremberg Trial Dog.

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Hollywood has regurgitating yet another propaganda film to join Judgment at Nuremberg (1961), Nuremberg: Tyranny on Trial (1995), Nuremberg (1996), The German "docudrama: Speer und er (2005),
a BBC docudrama Nuremberg: Nazis on Trial (2006),Nuremberg: Goering's Last Stand (2006).
All designed to...well here is what the media says
...writer-director James Vanderbilt‘s Nuremberg, based on Jack El-Hai’s 2013 non-fiction book The Nazi and the Psychiatrist. The film is a retelling of the events leading up to and throughout the Nuremberg Trials which brought the Nazi high command to justice after World War II. It was a seminal moment in world history—a first of its kind international war crimes tribunal presided over by justices from the Allied countries.

The film showed at the Toronto International Film Festival and will be released November 7
Russell Crowe plays a crafty brazen Hermann Göring being foiled by the noble Americans. Michael Shannon plays the
righteous Judge Robert H. Jackson. Tagline Justice over Vengeance.
The film focuses on American psychiatrist Douglas Kelley


Fun fact-
The first session of the Tribunal was held in Berlin on October 18, 1945 and was presided over by Stalin's favorite judge, Iona Nikitchenko. Into the Memory Hole with these inconvenient facts!...see https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtmin.asp


Relevant to this movie, one of the many travesties at the IMT Trials was the use of a psychologist like Kelley to influence the defendants, soften them up for confessions, and...of course...write a self-serving "tell all" book.

Kelley's books were
Twenty-two Cells in Nuremberg and The Case of Rudolf Hess.

Kelley committed suicide during a family gathering with his wife, father and oldest son to watch the Rose Bowl game on television, on New Year's Day 1958. He ingested potassium cyanide as had Nazi leader Hermann Göring, whom Kelley had come to know during his psychiatric evaluation at Nuremberg.

Another tool of the prosecution was G. M. Gilbert, played by Colin Hanks. He broke many ethical rules of psychology and was an important part of the Show Trial Team. His books were "Nuremberg Diary" and The Psychology of Dictatorship: Based on an Examination of the Leaders of Nazi Germany
He wrote:
My principal duty was to maintain close daily contact with the prisoners in order to keep the prison commandant, Colonel B. C. Andrus, aware of the state of their morale, and to help in any way possible to assure their standing trial with orderly discipline. 1 also collaborated with the psychiatric commissions and the prison psychiatrist* in any mental examinations that were required.

I was allowed free access to the prisoners at all times, from the time of the indictment up to the time of the execution. This made possible a study of their reactions under controlled conditions for a whole year. The method was simply that of casual conversation in my role as psychologist and liaison man, supplementing the trial itself as a vehicle for examining the Nazi system and the men who made it. I never took notes in their presence, but kept a careful record of my conversations and observations, setting down my notes

"“But don’t you think it’s about time that somebody did admit his guilt and call a spade a spade?” I asked. “These Mass murders are the most horrible things that have ever taken place in the history of mankind!”
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One must know that the Nuremberg defendants had been turned into Holocaust believers or at least half Holocaust believers through a double trick which combined a conspiracy theory fallacy (Himmler did it behind our backs, blah blah blah) and a preconditioning horror movie full of emaciated typhus victims (deceptively portrayed as mass murder victims) projected on the 8th day (!!!) of the Nuremberg parody of justice to close the case before even opening it, in a way.

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"What the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes." - Jewish illusionist Harry Houdini

Google's AI:
The phrase, often attributed to magician Harry Houdini, means that the mind tends to accept what is perceived through the senses of sight and hearing as reality, especially if presented convincingly. It highlights the power of misdirection and suggestion, suggesting that people are easily fooled by what they see and hear, and can be convinced of things that are not true if they are presented in a certain way.

You can watch this video to see an example of Houdini's misdirection:

  • Perception versus reality: It points out the gullibility of the mind, which can be easily manipulated by sensory input.
  • Misdirection: The phrase is particularly relevant to magic and illusion, where performers use misdirection to make an audience believe in something impossible by drawing their attention to one thing while hiding the truth elsewhere.
  • Influence of expectations: The quote also relates to the idea that people often see and hear what they expect to see and hear, due to their preconceived notions and biases.
The phrase, "What the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes," is a famous quote attributed to the illusionist Harry Houdini.

Meaning and Context

The quote highlights the power of sensory perception and misdirection. As a magician, Houdini understood that people are naturally inclined to trust their senses. By expertly manipulating what an audience sees and hears (through sleight of hand, staging, and patter), a magician can create illusions that the mind accepts as reality, even if they are logically impossible.

The quote is often used to:
  • Explain why stage magic and other illusions are effective.
  • Remind people of the importance of critical thinking, as perceptions can be easily manipulated or misinterpreted.
  • Discuss how biases and preconceived notions influence our understanding of the world, leading us to "see" or "hear" what we expect.
  • Emphasize the power of sensory input in shaping a person's belief system or perspective.
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At the IMT trial the Americans showed an hour long film entitled Nazi Concentration Camps.
Reel Four was devoted to the Boelcke-Kaserne (transl. Boelcke Barracks; also Nordhausen)

Boelcke-Kaserne was actually a hospital were inmates were tended albeit by an overwhelmed and undersupplied
medical staff.

On April 3 and April 4 1945, the RAF bombed the hospital killing about 1,400 of the prisoners
and wounding thousands more. German civilians in the nearby town were also bombed.

On April 11th the US 3rd Armored Division entered the destroyed hospital. US photographic teams realized the
"Photo opportunity" of the all the dead bodies...including dead German children... and took extensive films.

Ignoring the fact that the terrible scene was created by the British bombing, the US Army Propaganda team
released films to the international media. Nordhausen "became the defining image of National Socialist camp terror" in many parts of the world and the key piece of "evidence" at the Tribunal. U.S. Chief of Counsel Robert H. Jackson even read exhibited affidavits which attested to authenticity of scenes in film.
See. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ation-camp

I am not sure if the Nordhausen scenes is included in the new Nuremberg movie.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boelcke-K ... n_camp.jpg
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Eye of Zyclone wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:37 am One must know that the Nuremberg defendants had been turned into Holocaust believers or at least half Holocaust believers through a double trick which combined a conspiracy theory fallacy (Himmler did it behind our backs, blah blah blah) and a preconditioning horror movie full of emaciated typhus victims (deceptively portrayed as mass murder victims) projected on the 8th day (!!!) of the Nuremberg parody of justice to close the case before even opening it, in a way.

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That sure did his job. Shock and Awe tactics. And it worked with millions of others as well.
Just that none of the graphic material is proof to what people think it is.

But one would have to list other evidences they actually gave. And see whether this is solid and warrants the conclusion.
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Here's a clip of Crowe talking about the role. He actually sounds surprisingly well read, and he discusses Goering somewhat favorably.

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So I watched it recently. Obviously it has all the orthodox biases you would expect, but there's also some good nuggets in there.

My favorite part was when Jackson confronted Goering with him signing the Final Solution order, and Goering says it's about emigration. Jackson then says "You expect me to believe the Final Solution was about emigration?" and Goering responds: "It's right there in the document you gave me" and Jackson looks down befuddled, and sure enough, it's there. :lol:

I wonder how things like that will make others curious to look into revisionism?
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Archie wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 12:00 am Here's a clip of Crowe talking about the role. He actually sounds surprisingly well read, and he discusses Goering somewhat favorably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REx8nsNUcFs
The comments are interesting. Looks like 2/3rds of the people responding aren’t buying the Allies-good/Nazties-bad bullsh#t anymore.

E.g. this one:
The timing of this movie is no accident.
This is a zionist project meant as a distraction from the PR disaster for the global Jewish community that are IDF atrocities in Gaza.
A ‘holocaust’ believer’s problem is not technical, factual, empirical or archeological — their problem is psychological.
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fireofice wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:33 am My favorite part was when Jackson confronted Goering with him signing the Final Solution order, and Goering says it's about emigration. Jackson then says "You expect me to believe the Final Solution was about emigration?" and Goering responds: "It's right there in the document you gave me" and Jackson looks down befuddled, and sure enough, it's there. :lol:
Goering could have answered : Of course the final solution was about emigration --- consented emigration plus forced emigration (deportation, expulsion). That's why we picked up a word coined by top Zionists 5 decades ago to name their colonial entreprise for the de-Judaization of Europe through emigration.

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As a member of the American Palestine Committee (a Zionist lobby group for U.S. notables), perhaps Robert Jackson would have been embarrassed by a public exposure of that little-known fact.

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DavidM wrote: Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:06 pm At the IMT trial the Americans showed an hour long film entitled Nazi Concentration Camps.
Reel Four was devoted to the Boelcke-Kaserne (transl. Boelcke Barracks; also Nordhausen)

Boelcke-Kaserne was actually a hospital were inmates were tended albeit by an overwhelmed and undersupplied
medical staff.

On April 3 and April 4 1945, the RAF bombed the hospital killing about 1,400 of the prisoners
and wounding thousands more. German civilians in the nearby town were also bombed.

On April 11th the US 3rd Armored Division entered the destroyed hospital. US photographic teams realized the
"Photo opportunity" of the all the dead bodies...including dead German children... and took extensive films.

Ignoring the fact that the terrible scene was created by the British bombing, the US Army Propaganda team
released films to the international media. Nordhausen "became the defining image of National Socialist camp terror" in many parts of the world and the key piece of "evidence" at the Tribunal. U.S. Chief of Counsel Robert H. Jackson even read exhibited affidavits which attested to authenticity of scenes in film.
See. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... ation-camp

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The Nordhausen pictorial deception kickstarted the Allied campaign of atrocity propaganda & mass deception through horror photos and movies. And that fact alone (i.e. Allied propagandists using horrific miscaptioned pictures of dead people directly killed by Allied bombers to demonize the enemy) should be enough to prove that the architects of Allied psychological warfare during WWII were out for mass deception and a Grand Guignol misrepresentation of the German concentration camps. Knowing this, it's no surprise they then portrayed the gruesome scenes of epidemic devastation in Belsen, Buchenwald and Dachau (i.e. horrific miscaptioned pictures of dead people indirectly killed by Allied bombers) as graphic evidence of mass murder in German camps and final proof of Nazi Barbarism™.

Nordhausen - Epitome of the Big Lie


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"At the Boelcke-Kaserne, the SS left prisoners to die without enough food, medical treatment, or beds. On April 3 and 4, 1945, British Royal Air Force bombing raids killed more prisoners. After the air raids, the SS guards immediately fled the camp and left the prisoners to die in the rubble."

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... d-division

Since the CODOH inspired reveal that the vast majority of deaths (85%) at the Boelcke Kaserne were caused by
the RAF bombings (CODOH also sent several letters to the USHMM) the Museum made the above niggardly admission that
the RAF bombed the hospital twice. Still omitted are the actual number of deaths caused by the RAF both to sick
prisoners but to nurses and doctors and the disruption of food supplies.
Amazing that a film of a death German child killed by RAF bombs was shown at Nuremberg as a "victim of the Holocaust."


Shame on the staff of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
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DavidM wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:16 pm "At the Boelcke-Kaserne, the SS left prisoners to die without enough food, medical treatment, or beds. On April 3 and 4, 1945, British Royal Air Force bombing raids killed more prisoners. After the air raids, the SS guards immediately fled the camp and left the prisoners to die in the rubble."

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... d-division

Since the CODOH inspired reveal that the vast majority of deaths (85%) at the Boelcke Kaserne were caused by
the RAF bombings (CODOH also sent several letters to the USHMM) the Museum made the above niggardly admission that
the RAF bombed the hospital twice. Still omitted are the actual number of deaths caused by the RAF both to sick
prisoners but to nurses and doctors and the disruption of food supplies.
Amazing that a film of a death German child killed by RAF bombs was shown at Nuremberg as a "victim of the Holocaust."

Shame on the staff of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
One of those letters can be read here: https://codoh.com/library/document/lett ... ordhausen/
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