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There's a documentary coming out by the Times of London about some supposed Hitler DNA results. They are claiming that he had Kallmann syndrome, a genetic defect that prevents puberty.



This sounds fishy to me for a few reasons. For one thing, a lot of the research they do for TV specials tends to be dubious and sensational. This is also very reminiscent of the old rumor about Hitler having one testicle.

Love him or hate him, Hitler does not strike me as a "low T" kind of guy. I've never seen a prepubescent who could grow a moustache like this. Nor was his voice effeminate or boyish.

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The sample was reportedly a blood-stained piece of cloth from the couch from the Fuhrer bunker that a soldier kept as a souvenir. There would seem to be a lot of questions about provenance and contamination here.

In 2010 some journalists published research regarding Hitler's Y-DNA haplogroup. They concluded he was most likely E1b1b.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... olf_Hitler
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Here's the article:

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/history/art ... -k9wszz3tw

According to this article, they claim it is based on the deletion of a letter from the PROK2 gene.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... ocumentary

Given his facial hair and deep voice, I also have doubts about if they got the right sample. If it is genuine, the symptoms must have been very mild.

According to Wikipedia:
Kallmann syndrome (KS) is a genetic disorder that prevents a person from starting or fully completing puberty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallmann_syndrome

So not "fully completing puberty" would be compatible with it still happening but the symptoms of not fully completing it being mild. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me. If not, then I would say it must have been a wrong sample.

Also, the "micropenis" thing is something they say is only a 1 in 10 chance with this disease. His doctor Theodor Morell said his genitals were normal.

https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/did-a ... e-testicle
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Did Uncle Adolf ever describe 'smelling' anything? Apparently there is an absence of smell with this proposed genetic disorder.

Also, a photographic analysis of his metacarpi could be useful. A physical marker is a short metacarpal on the middle finger.
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Stubble wrote: Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:48 pm Did Uncle Adolf ever describe 'smelling' anything? Apparently there is an absence of smell with this proposed genetic disorder.

Also, a photographic analysis of his metacarpi could be useful. A physical marker is a short metacarpal on the middle finger.
It's also been described as a "reduced sense of smell" on the Wikipedia page. So just smelling something wouldn't entirely rule it out according to that.
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I still don't see any abnormality in his carpi.

I don't know guys.

There is supposed to be a medical report floating around that states there was an undescended testicle, but, even that seems like a bit of a leap as 'proof' that Adolf Hitler was 'prepubescent' because of 'a disease'.

Call me what you will, but, to me this just seems like futher smearing of the man. Corpse dancing as it were.

'He had syphilis'
'He was a jew'
'He wasn't an aryan'
'By his own measure he should have been euthanized'

Just so many things...

At least there isn't a religious text floating around calling his mother a whore and saying that he is currently boiling in shit in hell I guess.

History has been, unkind, to the man.
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If they confirm that the blood is related to his relatives, then I would accept these results. Mild symptoms seem to be the best explanation. Apparently he was so masculine that this disease had barely an effect on him! Based Hitler. 8-)

Hitler if he didn't have Kallmann syndrome:
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This story seems to also have an origin in U.S. intelligence. It's explained in this movie clip shared on X:



The clip comes from The Ritchie Boys (2004). The primary speaker is Guy Stern, who was a member of the Army CIC, also Jewish. Here's an approximate transcript of what he says:
We concocted the story that we had captured Hitler's latrine orderly and that he had very significant information about the genitals of the Fuhrer. And that he had a shrunken scrotum and stuff like that. So we wrote that story and we turned it into Captain Kahn and he laughed and he said "Oh, we'll put it as an appendix to special friends." And it went up to headquarters and everyone laughed their head off and they thought it was a great story.

About seven years ago I was writing an article about our adventures in Army intelligence. And Judy comes home and she sees me rolling in laughter on the floor. In this book published in Britain, there is a story in there, [that] one of the most exciting cases that CIC faced was the case of Private Johannugstahler[?] who was a latrine orderly to Hitler. So serious scholars had gone into the national archives, still found this report... [laughing]
The second speaker is Fred Howard, also CIC and Jewish. Transcript:
One forwarded it to Washington D.C. And we were visited within seven days by some colonel or somebody who wants to interview this guy.
I see the same story is told also in this podcast:
https://spyscape.com/podcast/the-ritchie-boys
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Here one will find all of the tropes. I stand corrected on my previous 'at least' remark. Apparently, his grandmother was a whore and he is boiling in a pot of excrement in hell according to some. Not a religious text, but, the claim is out there...

https://theserapeum.com/hitler/



The fellow that wrote this is, something else.
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Here's a similar tactic applied to regular people.



It simply couldn't be that there are major conflicts of interest between Jews and the rest of society. Take for example the fact that lots of Jews ("neocons") were pushing for the Iraq War for Zionist reasons while selling the war to the public under false pretenses. I mean, why would you make a big stink about a little thing like that? You must be a big loser (and there's probably something wrong with your balls).
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Not to stray too far off topic with you here Archie, but, I'd be remissed if I didn't mention that trotskyite noodleman and Ukraine...

I think that Prager may have actually been the most concise in a rebuttal to the 'it's not jews' schtick.

https://odysee.com/@Granola_Nazi:9/Culture-Cleaner:7
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We should acknowledge the remarkable corroborating facts, here. One of the primary symptoms of Kallmann Syndrome is cryptorchidism. Radl's excellent article linked above includes this quote about a doctor in 1923 who diagnosed Hitler with cryptorchidism:
The records, taken during a medical exam following Hitler’s arrest over the failed Beer hall putsch in 1923, show that he suffered from “right-side cryptorchidism”, or an undescended right testicle.

Notes written by Dr Josef Steiner Brin, the medical officer at Landsberg prison, state “Adolf Hitler, artist, recently writer” was otherwise “healthy and strong”.
That was only one out of four doctors Radl cites, the other three of which did not note cryptorchidism, from which we can infer that Hitler's case, if it was real, could only have been a mild one. Nonetheless, it seems to be a quite rare disorder (1 in 30,000), so the fact that a medical exam lines up with alleged genetic evidence is pretty good corroboration. Or if they're both fake it's a remarkable coincidence.

Something has to explain why Hitler's case was for the most part asymptomatic. Speculatively, it's possible that Kallman Syndrome is more common than believed but overlooked because it is asymptomatic. Also possible is that the syndrome was more common historically but less of an issue then because of higher testosterone levels, since it is well-known that male test levels have precipitously declined over time. A third possibility is that it was offset by his gigachad genes, as fireofice suggests above. Take your pick.

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It has to be taken separately that the media has sensationalized this story. They've made statements like Hitler "really did have only one ball" (The Telegraph) which is obviously false, "Hitler likely had a micropenis" (NY Post) which is statistically incompetent, and they're also trying to diagnose autism, bipolar, and schizophrenia which is obviously inappropriate from DNA sequencing alone. All of this is pretty standard for journalists, and they fully deserve all the derision for it, but it can be separated from what I presume to be more serious underlying work.

Notably, the same kind of thing happened back in 2010. When I look back at the original Dutch articles written about Jean-Paul Mulders, his statements were fairly tame and science-based. It was all the media reporting, especially in the English-language sphere, that took Mulders's work and claimed Hitler was actually a Jew or an African. Mulders was even responsible for debunking one Jewish story.
With the same research, Mulders was able to demonstrate that Alois Hitler, Adolf's father, was not a bastard but indeed a real Hitler. The story about Hitler's supposed Jewish grandfather, which had been circulating since the 1930s and had led to the most outrageous conspiracy theories, could thus also be relegated to the realm of fantasy.

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So I think it's best if we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. The experts are not a problem so much as the journalists.
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