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Is your nation infected? Subverted by cult-like ideals, ambitions and activities which oppose the national interest?

The normal response to such ambitions and activities is that the patriotic people of the infected nation recognize and then organize and act against their enemies.

What can prevent a nation's people from (1) recognizing and then (2) organizing and acting against [an enemy]?:
  • NOT PERCEPTIVE TO ENEMY COLLECTIVE MISDEEDS OR COHESION
  • HYPER-PERCEPTIVE TO ENEMY COLLECTIVE 'VICTIMHOOD'
  • SYSTEMIC FAVOR FOR ENEMY INTERESTS
An important part of the 'Holocaust' narrative is the part which both revisionists and exterminationists agree is true: that Jews were indeed persecuted and imprisoned, sometimes mistreated terribly. This is important because of what is often overstated or understated in this regard, which significantly shifts the overall picture of which party (Jews or Germans) are more 'guilty' in their overall relationship to (and treatment of) one another by the late 1930s.

For example, when one is entirely unaware of the destructive Marxist organizations and financial and cultural degradation schemes actively implemented by Jewish organizers and masses in Germany pre-WW2, they can interpret Germany's actions against Jews in the 1930s as purely aggressive rather than necessary or defensive. Similarly, when one is unaware of global Jewish efforts to cripple the German economy and sow animosity toward Germany in the 1930s (no doubt beating the drum toward yet another world war), one can interpret retaliatory action like that seen in 'Kristallnacht' as unprovoked and disproportionate.

It is with this lack of historical understanding that nations today could seldom interpret certain Jewish organizations (or patterns thereof) as an enemy to their host nations, even if or when such organizations misbehave in ways that are similar to or even much worse than that of 1930s Germany and prior.

In addition to blindness about enemy misdeeds, the intense perception of enemy suffering (whether true or false) could also prevent a nation's people from recognizing or organizing/acting against an enemy. This hyper-perception of enemy suffering would evoke a natural response of hyper-empathy from compassionate people of good nature. An enemy could no doubt account for this empathy response in-advance and use it against the target nation, in the most sinister of ways.

Without national recognition of the enemy, the enemy can act freely and continue his/their subversive schemes, unopposed. Eventually, the system becomes partial toward the enemy's own objectives and ideals, actively preventing patriotic reclamation of the national order. In effect, the nation's immune system has been effectively shut down, resulting in something of an 'autoimmune disorder' where the nation's systems are used against the nation's people and their interests.

In this way, many have argued it becomes tenable or even likely that the 'Holocaust' narrative sits at the center of an effort to destroy Western nations and, ultimately, to overrun the interests of all people and nations globally.

What is interesting about this possibility is that even if one accepts the 'Holocaust' narrative as true, it still leaves open the possibility that the collective underneath the 'victim' umbrella becomes more of a threat to nations who accept this 'victim' status, should this collective ever aspire toward subversive activities or outcomes.

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Outstanding post.
Callafangers wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2025 9:52 pm In addition to blindness about enemy misdeeds, the intense perception of enemy suffering (whether true or false) could also prevent a nation's people from recognizing or organizing/acting against an enemy. This hyper-perception of enemy suffering would evoke a natural response of hyper-empathy from compassionate people of good nature. An enemy could no doubt account for this empathy response in-advance and use it against the target nation, in the most sinister of ways.

Without national recognition of the enemy, the enemy can act freely and continue his/their subversive schemes, unopposed. Eventually, the system becomes partial toward the enemy's own objectives and ideals, actively preventing patriotic reclamation of the national order. In effect, the nation's immune system has been effectively shut down, resulting in something of an 'autoimmune disorder' where the nation's systems are used against the nation's people and their interests.

In this way, many have argued it becomes tenable or even likely that the 'Holocaust' narrative sits at the center of an effort to destroy Western nations and, ultimately, to overrun the interests of all people and nations globally.
The Holocaust narrative is used primarily to shield Jews as a collective from criticism, but also extends to all minority groups who are viewed as 'oppressed'. The use of this narrative is essentially only used in White European countries, which are forced to accept 'diversity' and 'multiculturalism'. For example, Blacks cry out slavery whenever they are rightly criticized for committing a vastly disproportional amount of violent crime.

More specifically, the Holocaust makes generalizations of groups seen as taboo. This is the reason that people who point out obvious group problems are immediately labeled as a Nazi or a fascist. If, for example, somebody realizes that Blacks commit the majority of violent crime in America and then criticizes them for it, then the parallel (with the Holocaust narrative hammered into our subconscious) of this realization is "well, Hitler blamed ALL of the Jews and that led to a genocide."

The person who made this realization will be called a Nazi. He will be left wondering why, and possibly take offense to it. I believe that the worst thing someone can do in this predicament is to try to convince the accuser that they are not a Nazi. There is nothing they can possibly say to convince someone of this because they have already made up their mind. To the enemy, Nazis deserve not just to be silenced, but to be murdered. Of course, if this person is aware of how the Holocaust narrative is used maliciously, then they will not take offense to the label. This same logic can be used with terms like 'racist', 'transphobe', 'homophobe', etc. It all follows down the pipeline of the Holocaust narrative.

One more thing that is more subtle. Jews work together to ensure that this status quo is upheld. Left-wing Jews will call you a Nazi for group generalizations, while right-wing Jews, such as Ben Shapiro, will push libertarian and individualistic ideologies, which are inherently against collectivism. Both of these views prevent groups from being named and criticized as a whole. Of course, these two groups of Jews are not ideologically aligned with each other, but when push comes to shove, they will act as a collective in their group's best interest. Whites are the only group of people that aren't allowed to collectivize because the last time that they did, they successfully identified the subversive, and the 'Holocaust' happened.

If the Holocaust narrative collapses, then the house of cards falls with it.
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I think this may belong here;

If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Here are some quotes to think on.
Emanuel Celler: [T]he Johnson Act set up what was called superior classes and advocated Nordic supremacy [...] See what the Hitler theory of "superior people" brought us. [...]

Ed Gossett: The gentleman is not contending that our immigration laws embody those principles?

Emanuel Celler: It certainly does [...]

U.S. House of Representatives Subcommittee on Immigration, 1947
Yes, America behaved badly.

America had closed its borders. Millions could have been saved if America had a heart, for the Jews.

Jack Engelhard, Arutz Sheva
In 1965, an immigration bill arrived that Jewish groups could support. [...] Perhaps the most impassioned plea, however, came from a Jewish New York congressman named Leonard Farbstein, who told the House that the act would come too late for the Jews "buried in the mass graves at Auschwitz, Dachau, and Bergen-Belsen" who were denied US visas.

But, Farbstein said, the new law would allow those murdered Jews to "rest easier in their graves" because America may now provide an easier haven to refugees.

Raffi Wineburg, JTA
The American response to news of the Holocaust was shaped by economic concerns, xenophobia, and antisemitism. [... T]he United States permitted entry to more refugees than any other nation. However, thousands more could have been granted US immigration visas had the quotas been filled during this period.

USHMM
While study about the Holocaust is important in and of itself, it is even more important to learn from the Holocaust in terms of promoting global citizenship, human rights, religious tolerance and multiculturalism to ensure that such evil does not occur again.

Zehavit Gross, UN
[T]he commemoration of the Holocaust - as an event which gives meaning - is not only a source of symbolic legitimacy but also of political action and values, such as the rejection of racism, anti-Semitism, and xenophobia.

Lothar Probst, 2003
Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years [we] were in exile there. [...] Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations [...] A[nd] now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won’t be able to atone for.

Baruch Efrati, 2012
The common thread running through seemingly all Jewish thought on the Holocaust is that all European and European-descending countries need to embrace outsiders. The classic sense of nationhood is to be rejected. The will of the people is to be ignored. Because of the Holocaust story, no White country can be permitted to be racially exclusionary in the way that Israel and most of the rest of the world is. We are all held guilty as a collective. We are all sentenced to ethnic erasure in our own homelands.

And they have no subtlety about this at all. I could easily produce a hundred more quotes from prominent Jews like the ones above. But if these stark admissions aren't glaringly obvious enough, it is also impossible to advocate for the sovereignty of Whites without that being equated to Nazism. The accusation of "Nazi" is made in 100% of cases, as if no one had ever thought of service to and protection of their extended kin until 1933. We are expected to forget or condemn the fact that until recently all of our countries were racially exclusionary.

I think the topic title is very appropriate.
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Callafangers wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2025 9:52 pm Is your nation infected? Subverted by cult-like ideals, ambitions and activities which oppose the national interest?
It is not infected, but there is a recognised problem with people falling for cult like hoaxes, such as Holocaust denial/revision.
The normal response to such ambitions and activities is that the patriotic people of the infected nation recognize and then organize and act against their enemies.

What can prevent a nation's people from (1) recognizing and then (2) organizing and acting against [an enemy]?:
  • NOT PERCEPTIVE TO ENEMY COLLECTIVE MISDEEDS OR COHESION
  • HYPER-PERCEPTIVE TO ENEMY COLLECTIVE 'VICTIMHOOD'
  • SYSTEMIC FAVOR FOR ENEMY INTERESTS
We need critical thinking skills, where people are taught to accept nothing, believe nothing, check everything (ABC) and how to go about that. They need to learn about what is evidence, what is not and how not to fall for logical fallacies.
An important part of the 'Holocaust' narrative is the part which both revisionists and exterminationists agree is true: that Jews were indeed persecuted and imprisoned, sometimes mistreated terribly. This is important because of what is often overstated or understated in this regard, which significantly shifts the overall picture of which party (Jews or Germans) are more 'guilty' in their overall relationship to (and treatment of) one another by the late 1930s.
Many Holocaust deniers on X claim that the Jews did not suffer during WWII and their population remained static. If you were to spend any time there, you would see a lot of out right denial of the Holocaust. Revisionism is more nuanced.
For example, when one is entirely unaware of the destructive Marxist organizations and financial and cultural degradation schemes actively implemented by Jewish organizers and masses in Germany pre-WW2, they can interpret Germany's actions against Jews in the 1930s as purely aggressive rather than necessary or defensive. Similarly, when one is unaware of global Jewish efforts to cripple the German economy and sow animosity toward Germany in the 1930s (no doubt beating the drum toward yet another world war), one can interpret retaliatory action like that seen in 'Kristallnacht' as unprovoked and disproportionate.
Many deniers on X do post about supposed Jewish aggression towards Germany, in particular the headline about declaring war. There is indeed a lot of ignorance of the pre-war situation in Germany, especially over basic chronology and who reacted to whom.
It is with this lack of historical understanding that nations today could seldom interpret certain Jewish organizations (or patterns thereof) as an enemy to their host nations, even if or when such organizations misbehave in ways that are similar to or even much worse than that of 1930s Germany and prior.
That is an anti-Semitic trope, Jews are not hosted by the nation they are a citizen of, and they are not an internal threat.
In addition to blindness about enemy misdeeds, the intense perception of enemy suffering (whether true or false) could also prevent a nation's people from recognizing or organizing/acting against an enemy. This hyper-perception of enemy suffering would evoke a natural response of hyper-empathy from compassionate people of good nature. An enemy could no doubt account for this empathy response in-advance and use it against the target nation, in the most sinister of ways.

Without national recognition of the enemy, the enemy can act freely and continue his/their subversive schemes, unopposed. Eventually, the system becomes partial toward the enemy's own objectives and ideals, actively preventing patriotic reclamation of the national order. In effect, the nation's immune system has been effectively shut down, resulting in something of an 'autoimmune disorder' where the nation's systems are used against the nation's people and their interests.

In this way, many have argued it becomes tenable or even likely that the 'Holocaust' narrative sits at the center of an effort to destroy Western nations and, ultimately, to overrun the interests of all people and nations globally.

What is interesting about this possibility is that even if one accepts the 'Holocaust' narrative as true, it still leaves open the possibility that the collective underneath the 'victim' umbrella becomes more of a threat to nations who accept this 'victim' status, should this collective ever aspire toward subversive activities or outcomes.

Has your nation been compromised by 'victim' narratives and/or lies by omission?

If so, call 1-800-HOLOHOAX to request your free trial of our latest product, CULT-BE-GONE! Just three sprays of this proprietary blend of integrity, sincerity, and knowledge will cure even the most severe infections.

Talk to your doctor about CULT-BE-GONE. Side effects include joy, relief, and a sense of purpose.
Anti-Semitism was rife throughout Europe before and during the war. The Nazis received a lot of assistance with their Final Solution policy. If anything, the Holocaust, and how it was supported to one extent or another, but most of the countries in Europe, proves that Jews are more in danger, than a threat.
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Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 11:27 am
Callafangers wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2025 9:52 pm Is your nation infected? Subverted by cult-like ideals, ambitions and activities which oppose the national interest?
It is not infected, but there is a recognised problem with people falling for cult like hoaxes, such as Holocaust denial/revision.
You can't just say "it is not infected", Nessie. Are you saying you have hard proof that no Western nation is being subverted by members of a common ideological strain? Good luck with that.
Nessie wrote:We need critical thinking skills, where people are taught to accept nothing, believe nothing, check everything (ABC) and how to go about that. They need to learn about what is evidence, what is not and how not to fall for logical fallacies.
I made a thread on this, exposing that exterminationists are reliant on fallacies and evasion of critical thinking practices, here: https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=308
Nessie wrote:
An important part of the 'Holocaust' narrative is the part which both revisionists and exterminationists agree is true: that Jews were indeed persecuted and imprisoned, sometimes mistreated terribly. This is important because of what is often overstated or understated in this regard, which significantly shifts the overall picture of which party (Jews or Germans) are more 'guilty' in their overall relationship to (and treatment of) one another by the late 1930s.
Many Holocaust deniers on X claim that the Jews did not suffer during WWII and their population remained static. If you were to spend any time there, you would see a lot of out right denial of the Holocaust. Revisionism is more nuanced.
In my decade plus of exploring Holocaust revisionism, the opinions I have encountered claiming that Jews were not even imprisoned by Germany number exactly zero (0). Nobody says Jews did not suffer at even a single instance. You're likely referring to characterizations based on things like the Auschwitz swimming pool, altogether just highlighting that a narrative of 'total suffering' doesn't appear correct, contrary to what is incessantly portrayed by school curricula, Hollywood movies, etc.
Nessie wrote:Many deniers on X do post about supposed Jewish aggression towards Germany, in particular the headline about declaring war. There is indeed a lot of ignorance of the pre-war situation in Germany, especially over basic chronology and who reacted to whom.
Indeed, knowledge about Jewish warmongering and overall organized aggression against Germany pre-dating WW2 is understated and largely unknown or misunderstood.
Nessie wrote:
It is with this lack of historical understanding that nations today could seldom interpret certain Jewish organizations (or patterns thereof) as an enemy to their host nations, even if or when such organizations misbehave in ways that are similar to or even much worse than that of 1930s Germany and prior.
That is an anti-Semitic trope, Jews are not hosted by the nation they are a citizen of, and they are not an internal threat.
Let's be clear: something being a "trope" does not even entail that it is false, and this is especially true when it comes to so-called 'anti-Semitic' ones. Jews are historically, notoriously loyal to their own interests over those of their host nations, making them an internal threat anytime Jewish interests are at odds with national interests. This interpretation regards Jews as a collective rather than purely as fragmented individuals, which is exactly how they generally regard themselves, evidenced by documented ideology and patterns of behavior (and organizing) across nations and over time.
Nessie wrote:Anti-Semitism was rife throughout Europe before and during the war. The Nazis received a lot of assistance with their Final Solution policy. If anything, the Holocaust, and how it was supported to one extent or another, but most of the countries in Europe, proves that Jews are more in danger, than a threat.
"Anti-Semitism" is a natural, typically-proportionate response to Jewish subversive schemes costing the lives and prosperity of the host nation. The "Nazis" could not have ever acquired so much assistance with any anti-Jewish measures if there was no compelling rationale to their position aligning with the observations and experiences of people of the assisting nations. You can assume these people were fools who bought into lies, but this is a far more strained interpretation than that their persuasion was through compelling evidence and reason.

Your claim that "Jews are more in danger, than a threat" is an absurd and irrelevant statement. Assuming that 'antisemites' are correct, Jews are certainly in danger due to the destructive schemes they repeatedly impose upon global nations. This is self-inflicted danger. The nations subjected to destructive Jewish schemes remain the true victims in this interaction.
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Callafangers wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:19 pm
Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 11:27 am
Callafangers wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2025 9:52 pm Is your nation infected? Subverted by cult-like ideals, ambitions and activities which oppose the national interest?
It is not infected, but there is a recognised problem with people falling for cult like hoaxes, such as Holocaust denial/revision.
You can't just say "it is not infected", Nessie. Are you saying you have hard proof that no Western nation is being subverted by members of a common ideological strain? Good luck with that.
Collective Jewish organisations pose no national threat in the UK. I am not aware of any other nation that is in danger of any kind of collapse, because of Jews.
Nessie wrote:We need critical thinking skills, where people are taught to accept nothing, believe nothing, check everything (ABC) and how to go about that. They need to learn about what is evidence, what is not and how not to fall for logical fallacies.
I made a thread on this, exposing that exterminationists are reliant on fallacies and evasion of critical thinking practices, here: https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=308
Historians use evidence to prove what happened. So-called revisionists cannot do that.
Nessie wrote:
An important part of the 'Holocaust' narrative is the part which both revisionists and exterminationists agree is true: that Jews were indeed persecuted and imprisoned, sometimes mistreated terribly. This is important because of what is often overstated or understated in this regard, which significantly shifts the overall picture of which party (Jews or Germans) are more 'guilty' in their overall relationship to (and treatment of) one another by the late 1930s.
Many Holocaust deniers on X claim that the Jews did not suffer during WWII and their population remained static. If you were to spend any time there, you would see a lot of out right denial of the Holocaust. Revisionism is more nuanced.
In my decade plus of exploring Holocaust revisionism, the opinions I have encountered claiming that Jews were not even imprisoned by Germany number exactly zero (0). Nobody says Jews did not suffer at even a single instance. You're likely referring to characterizations based on things like the Auschwitz swimming pool, altogether just highlighting that a narrative of 'total suffering' doesn't appear correct, contrary to what is incessantly portrayed by school curricula, Hollywood movies, etc.
I am going by those who state there was no Holocaust and those who claim the Jewish population rose slightly, based on the US almanac figure.
Nessie wrote:Many deniers on X do post about supposed Jewish aggression towards Germany, in particular the headline about declaring war. There is indeed a lot of ignorance of the pre-war situation in Germany, especially over basic chronology and who reacted to whom.
Indeed, knowledge about Jewish warmongering and overall organized aggression against Germany pre-dating WW2 is understated and largely unknown or misunderstood.
It is often based on a Daily Express headline! Such is the poor state of evidencing by so-called revisionists.
Nessie wrote:
It is with this lack of historical understanding that nations today could seldom interpret certain Jewish organizations (or patterns thereof) as an enemy to their host nations, even if or when such organizations misbehave in ways that are similar to or even much worse than that of 1930s Germany and prior.
That is an anti-Semitic trope, Jews are not hosted by the nation they are a citizen of, and they are not an internal threat.
Let's be clear: something being a "trope" does not even entail that it is false, and this is especially true when it comes to so-called 'anti-Semitic' ones. Jews are historically, notoriously loyal to their own interests over those of their host nations, making them an internal threat anytime Jewish interests are at odds with national interests. This interpretation regards Jews as a collective rather than purely as fragmented individuals, which is exactly how they generally regard themselves, evidenced by documented ideology and patterns of behavior (and organizing) across nations and over time.
Jews are as much citizens, as anyone else. They do not get "hosted" as if they are guests. Many Jews are half Jewish, or lapsed and there is no evidence that the vast majority of Jews who are citizens of any country, will turn against that country, unless that country turns against them.
Nessie wrote:Anti-Semitism was rife throughout Europe before and during the war. The Nazis received a lot of assistance with their Final Solution policy. If anything, the Holocaust, and how it was supported to one extent or another, but most of the countries in Europe, proves that Jews are more in danger, than a threat.
"Anti-Semitism" is a natural, typically-proportionate response to Jewish subversive schemes costing the lives and prosperity of the host nation. The "Nazis" could not have ever acquired so much assistance with any anti-Jewish measures if there was no compelling rationale to their position aligning with the observations and experiences of people of the assisting nations. You can assume these people were fools who bought into lies, but this is a far more strained interpretation than that their persuasion was through compelling evidence and reason.

Your claim that "Jews are more in danger, than a threat" is an absurd and irrelevant statement. Assuming that 'antisemites' are correct, Jews are certainly in danger due to the destructive schemes they repeatedly impose upon global nations. This is self-inflicted danger. The nations subjected to destructive Jewish schemes remain the true victims in this interaction.
Anti-Semitism comes from hateful people, who believe tropes and love conspiracies.
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Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:37 pm
Collective Jewish organisations pose no national threat in the UK. I am not aware of any other nation that is in danger of any kind of collapse, because of Jews.
Well then I am honored to awaken you to what Jewish organizations have been doing to the UK, Nessie. You should watch this documentary titled The Lobby UK. It is slightly outdated (circa 2018-19, IIRC), but Jewish influences have only expanded since then:



Remember that there are also global media conglomerates which reach well-into the UK, as well as pro-immigration organizations that dilute and pollute culture, etc., all part of global Jewish schemes to overrun the national identity (hence, stability/integrity/etc.) of these nations.
Nessie wrote:
I made a thread on this, exposing that exterminationists are reliant on fallacies and evasion of critical thinking practices, here: https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=308
Historians use evidence to prove what happened. So-called revisionists cannot do that.
Yes, you have already been thoroughly spanked here, anyone clicking my link quoted above can see this. No further questions, your honor.
Nessie wrote:Jews are as much citizens, as anyone else. They do not get "hosted" as if they are guests. Many Jews are half Jewish, or lapsed and there is no evidence that the vast majority of Jews who are citizens of any country, will turn against that country, unless that country turns against them.
People who are traitors are not 'citizens'
People whose foremost loyalty is to an ideology opposing the national interest are traitors
Many Jews have a foremost loyalty to an ideology opposing their host nation's interest
Therefore, many Jews are traitors and not 'citizens'

There's my logic, all spelled out. Show me the fallacy or provide a counterexample. I'll wait.
Nessie wrote: Anti-Semitism comes from hateful people, who believe tropes and love conspiracies.
Yes, we all know you love slogans. Put it on a bumper sticker, Nessie. You'll be praised for it.
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Callafangers wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:45 pm
Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:37 pm
Collective Jewish organisations pose no national threat in the UK. I am not aware of any other nation that is in danger of any kind of collapse, because of Jews.
Well then I am honored to awaken you to what Jewish organizations have been doing to the UK, Nessie. You should watch this documentary titled The Lobby UK. It is slightly outdated (circa 2018-19, IIRC), but Jewish influences have only expanded since then:



Remember that there are also global media conglomerates which reach well-into the UK, as well as pro-immigration organizations that dilute and pollute culture, etc., all part of global Jewish schemes to overrun the national identity (hence, stability/integrity/etc.) of these nations.
It is not working. UK national identity is growing stronger, as protests against failed migration policies increase. Scottish, Welsh and nationalist and republican Irish national identity has always been strong within the UK. English identity is growing, as separate to being British. Even Labour now recognise controlling and restricting immigration is needed, it has to be more strict and illegals deported far quicker.
Nessie wrote:
I made a thread on this, exposing that exterminationists are reliant on fallacies and evasion of critical thinking practices, here: https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=308
Historians use evidence to prove what happened. So-called revisionists cannot do that.
Yes, you have already been thoroughly spanked here, anyone clicking my link quoted above can see this. No further questions, your honor.
Can cannot "spank" me on the evidence, as only I can produce an evidenced chronology of what happened to the Jews during WWII.
Nessie wrote:Jews are as much citizens, as anyone else. They do not get "hosted" as if they are guests. Many Jews are half Jewish, or lapsed and there is no evidence that the vast majority of Jews who are citizens of any country, will turn against that country, unless that country turns against them.
People who are traitors are not 'citizens'
People whose foremost loyalty is to an ideology opposing the national interest are traitors
Many Jews have a foremost loyalty to an ideology opposing their host nation's interest
Therefore, many Jews are traitors and not 'citizens'

There's my logic, all spelled out. Show me the fallacy or provide a counterexample. I'll wait.
All the Jews, half Jews and lapsed Jews in the UK, who have never done anything other than support the UK, as citizens of this country. They obey the laws, pay their taxes, respect and participate in British customs and practices.
Nessie wrote: Anti-Semitism comes from hateful people, who believe tropes and love conspiracies.
Yes, we all know you love slogans. Put it on a bumper sticker, Nessie. You'll be praised for it.
You hate Jews, so expect them to hate you back.
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Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:16 pm
It is not working. UK national identity is growing stronger, as protests against failed migration policies increase. Scottish, Welsh and nationalist and republican Irish national identity has always been strong within the UK. English identity is growing, as separate to being British. Even Labour now recognise controlling and restricting immigration is needed, it has to be more strict and illegals deported far quicker.
The documentary/link is definitely working, I see it embedded within my post. What has most likely happened is that, as you are in the UK, your government has censored the video. Whose position does this circumstance favor? What has your government got to hide, regarding Jewish influences there?
Nessie wrote:
People who are traitors are not 'citizens'
People whose foremost loyalty is to an ideology opposing the national interest are traitors
Many Jews have a foremost loyalty to an ideology opposing their host nation's interest
Therefore, many Jews are traitors and not 'citizens'

There's my logic, all spelled out. Show me the fallacy or provide a counterexample. I'll wait.
All the Jews, half Jews and lapsed Jews in the UK, who have never done anything other than support the UK, as citizens of this country. They obey the laws, pay their taxes, respect and participate in British customs and practices.
Some do, some do not. But those who are close enough to observe subversive Jewish organizing while not participating in it are still not calling attention to those whom are organizing in these ways. Thus, the problem is two-fold: Jews who organize subversively and those who are passive enablers. I would argue the latter bear just as much guilt as the former.

Your point about half-Jews is simply highlighting a complexity that even WW2 Germany struggled with. The question is: if someone has one parent of the national identity and another who is Jewish, where does this person's loyalty lie? It isn't an easy question to answer, but as a rule, this person should be kept under close supervision.
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You hate Jews, so expect them to hate you back.
You seem to be mistaking the egg for the chicken. If Jews sow terror upon the nation(s) I love, it is natural for me to hate them (at least, those who are guilty). I did not ask for this relationship -- they chose it, not me.
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Callafangers wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:24 pm You seem to be mistaking the egg for the chicken. If Jews sow terror upon the nation(s) I love, it is natural for me to hate them (at least, those who are guilty). I did not ask for this relationship -- they chose it, not me.
One day, I was sitting there, just scrolling the net, and there was this guy at a pulpit screaming that I deserved to be erased from the face of the earth along with my family, root and stem, because I am Edom/Amelek. He called my country 'Rome's Successor' and said I was guilty and had to be destroyed.

So I dug in to this, and I found out he wasn't alone and that many orthodox jews preach this. This tangentially led into hearing about how I am an 'idolater' and should be shot attending service while at prayer.

It just kept getting deeper and deeper this hate this set of people has for me.

Then I saw some of these same people spouting this shaking hands with my politicians, I saw them talking to my president. I saw them in the halls of my Congress and Senate.

The more I learned the worse it got. This isn't new, this is old.

I realized, I was at war. I'd never even known I was at war, but, I was all the same. Chosing to expose this undeniable fact is not anti semitism, it is counter semitism.



Now, this film I present here, it isn't perfect, but, there is quite a bit of wheat in it, rather than chaff.

Fangers is 100% correct, exposing that our people are under attack is not hate. It is love of our people and an absolute natural reaction.
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I am not under attack from Jews. They have had no influence over me, my life choices, my wealth, occupation, family, where I live or friends. I come from one of the most powerful and influential countries in the world, which is Christian in its history and heritage. Jewish influence is minimal.
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Tour de Force from Callafangers.

Third degree embarrassment from Nessie.
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Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:03 pm I am not under attack from Jews. They have had no influence over me, my life choices, my wealth, occupation, family, where I live or friends. I come from one of the most powerful and influential countries in the world, which is Christian in its history and heritage. Jewish influence is minimal.
You do understand this is an exemplary fallacy, correct? The fact that it is still possible to make wages and have a family and friends does not challenge in the slightest the notion that your nation's key institutions and policies are being subverted. And the key concern regarding Jewish influences is that they are (1) vastly disproportionate, and (2) aligned toward ideological objectives that are evidently at odds with the best interests of the national bloodlines. You can say the UK is still Christian in its history and heritage but this is less so than has ever been the case for the last millenia, given many major cities now increasingly overrun by foreign occupants (often Muslim, carried in via Jewish organizational initiatives and global activism).

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While the question of Jewish subversive activities is an important one which I think should be discussed rather frankly, it must be emphasized that Jews are not the only group engaged in such activities. Even the NSDAP recognized this, given their stance toward freemasonry, certain Catholic groups, and their application of the concept of 'subhuman' as potentially applicable even to full-blooded Germans. People of poor character (e.g. subject to bribes) or depraved and ambitious ideology exist in many forms, all of which must be understood and guarded against.

The CIA was not fully Jewish, the Allied governments and institutions poisoning the public consciousness during and post WW2 were also not entirely Jewish. Communists are often non-Jewish. Many people participated in subversive campaigns for any number of reasons. I do not mean to portray subversion as an exclusively-Jewish practice... That said, it is when mentioning the Jewish element that the greatest (and most disproportionate) amount of resistance and retaliation is observed. Pointing out communist/freemasonic/etc subversion is generally allowable in any social or even professional setting... but so much as hinting at the notion of Jewish subversion is punished terribly, almost everywhere. This alone warrants special attention to the Jewish element, counteracting the systemic resistance.
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Callafangers wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:55 pm
Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:03 pm I am not under attack from Jews. They have had no influence over me, my life choices, my wealth, occupation, family, where I live or friends. I come from one of the most powerful and influential countries in the world, which is Christian in its history and heritage. Jewish influence is minimal.
You do understand this is an exemplary fallacy, correct? The fact that it is still possible to make wages and have a family and friends does not challenge in the slightest the notion that your nation's key institutions and policies are being subverted. And the key concern regarding Jewish influences is that they are (1) vastly disproportionate, and (2) aligned toward ideological objectives that are evidently at odds with the best interests of the national bloodlines. You can say the UK is still Christian in its history and heritage but this is less so than has ever been the case for the last millenia, given many major cities now increasingly overrun by foreign occupants (often Muslim, carried in via Jewish organizational initiatives and global activism).

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While the question of Jewish subversive activities is an important one which I think should be discussed rather frankly, it must be emphasized that Jews are not the only group engaged in such activities. Even the NSDAP recognized this, given their stance toward freemasonry, certain Catholic groups, and their application of the concept of 'subhuman' as potentially applicable even to full-blooded Germans. People of poor character (e.g. subject to bribes) or depraved and ambitious ideology exist in many forms, all of which must be understood and guarded against.

The CIA was not fully Jewish, the Allied governments and institutions poisoning the public consciousness during and post WW2 were also not entirely Jewish. Communists are often non-Jewish. Many people participated in subversive campaigns for any number of reasons. I do not mean to portray subversion as an exclusively-Jewish practice... That said, it is when mentioning the Jewish element that the greatest (and most disproportionate) amount of resistance and retaliation is observed. Pointing out communist/freemasonic/etc subversion is generally allowable in any social or even professional setting... but so much as hinting at the notion of Jewish subversion is punished terribly, almost everywhere. This alone warrants special attention to the Jewish element, counteracting the systemic resistance.
The Christian UK, with its aristocracy, upper class, wealthy, connected, powerful institutions, many of which have been in place for many centuries, is not at risk from its Jewish citizens. You are an anti-Semite, who grossly exaggerates Jewish influence. Remember, the UK has no denial laws.
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