Criticism of Jews as a Collective (Not Just as Individuals) is Ethical and Warranted

[Wahrheitssucher]

And if you are someone who has believed the official MSM and FBI narrative that Tyler Robinson is definitely the killer, I can only assume you haven’t been paying much attention to the narrative.

I think we can leave this to the justice system of the land…

Uh-hunh!

Do you accept the US “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Germar Rudolf? Of Ernst Zündel? Of John Kiriakou? Of Edward Snowden?
Do you accept the German “justice system of the land‘s” treatment of Ernst Zündel? Of Sylvia Stolz? Of Ursula Haverbeck?
Do you accept the UK’s “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Mark Weber, or of Alison Chabloz? Or of Julian Assange?

Do you accept the “justice system of the land’s” treatment of the accused at Nürnberg?

Do you accept Israel’s “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Adolf Eichmann?

If your answer is ‘no’ on ANY of those, why the double-standard here?
I’m genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

The FBi’s case is falling apart. I want to understand why people still believe anything the MSM and the powers-that-be say about anything other than the sports results!

The supposed confession’ of Tyler is proved to be false. It is a lie!
Tyler did NOT confess.
Neither did his parents ever think he was the person in the photos.
And neither did they EVER think he was guilty. They were all persuaded it was better for him to turn himself in rather than a SWAT team be sent out to take him and the risk he would be killed.
Also the FBI timeline doesn't add up.
Etc., etc.

Nazgul, your logic lacks consistency between a.) analysing the official governmental and MSM-approved jewish holocaust narrative and b.) the official governmental and MSM-approved Kirk killing narrative. In fact your logic and approach is diametrically opposed on each.
You are making many ridiculously false statements.
What’s going down! bro?

[Nazgul]

Do you accept the US “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Germar Rudolf? Of Ernst Zündel? Of John Kiriakou? Of Edward Snowden?
Do you accept the German “justice system of the land‘s” treatment of Ernst Zündel? Of Sylvia Stolz? Of Ursula Haverbeck?
Do you accept the UK’s “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Mark Weber, or of Alison Chabloz? Or of Julian Assange?

Do you accept the “justice system of the land’s” treatment of the accused at Nürnberg?

Do you accept Israel’s “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Adolf Eichmann?

If your answer is ‘no’ on ANY of those, why the double-standard here?
I’m genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

The FBi’s case is falling apart. I want to understand why people still believe anything the MSM and the powers-that-be say about anything other than the sports results!

The supposed confession’ of Tyler is proved to be false. It is a lie!
Tyler did NOT confess.
Neither did his parents ever think he was the person in the photos.
And neither did they EVER think he was guilty. They were all persuaded it was better for him to turn himself in rather than a SWAT team be sent out to take him and the risk he would be killed.
Also the FBI timeline doesn't add up.
Etc., etc.

Nazgul, your logic lacks consistency between a.) analysing the official governmental and MSM-approved jewish holocaust narrative and b.) the official governmental and MSM-approved Kirk killing narrative. In fact your logic and approach is diametrically opposed on each.
You are making many ridiculously false statements.
What’s going down! bro?

You are trolling but I do not mind that so much. I support the Justice system despite flaws. It is the best we can have at the moment. Your antisemitic rhetoric is tiresome.

[Stubble]

I'm going to very politely say that I don't need my opinion dictated to me by Ron. I also reiterate that the assassination of Mr Kirk is not holy h related. I point out that Mr Wraith has started a thread over on RODOH regarding the assassination.

I again point to Adolf Hitler's speech 'Freedom or Slavery' and to his 'Dynamo Plant' speech, and I ask anyone to honestly tell me those words are not a reflection of the world in which we find ourselves today.

jews have done a lot of harm to this country. Demonstrably. They stole the secrets of nuclear fire and shared it with the Soviet. They stole nuclear material from us and they used it to develop their own nuclear weapons program. They point those weapons at 'their greatest allies' in the Sampson option. This list could get very long.

A jew shot George Lincoln Rockwell, a man whose memory I hold in very high regard and whose words ring with truth. I don't blame 'the jews' for 'that jew' however. I also don't blame 'the jews' for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The evidence just isn't there.

Could that change? Sure. I'd need to see evidence though.

Regardless, by degrees, there are people who are responsible for the state of affairs in which we find ourselves today. With regard to the jews involved, they do the holocaust limp and call you absolutely evil if you say you are proud of who you are and want to preserve your way of life. They hold a burning ember of contempt in their mouth for the people they live among as they attempt to manipulate them into ethnic suicide.

They deserve criticism for it, and I have every right to point at HIIAS etc and their outsized footprint in my government, human smuggling (what the call immigration) etc and expose it.

That doesn't mean I have to believe that any time anyone is assassinated, they did it, or somehow jews perpetrated sandy hook, or jews did the Aurora shooting, or jews did the Las Vegas shooting. The American intelligence apparatus is perfectly capable of setting up bowling pins and knocking them down themselves (not to say they offed Kirk either).

There is more than enough evidence to indict jews for the crimes in which they are actively involved, Mayorkas for example, without having to ascribe to them some mystic power where nothing happens that isn't because of jews (Charlie Kirk assassination).

The long and sort of it, if I step on a lego brick in my home, I don't expect that some jew planted that lego there or some jew told my child to put a lego there. The jews don't even enter the equation with that. The sun does not rise and set because the jew says so. Many things have happened and continue to happen without jews.

[Nazgul]

Ich bin ein jüdischer Nationalsozialist.

[HansHill]

+1 Messrs Stubble, Nazgul & CF

@WS i personally believe Israel / Mossad was likely involved in the assassination somehow, however I have no way to prove it, and unless I have missed something, potentially never will. I'm also potentially wrong in my belief, and it simply was a pepped up degenerate.

USofA is very sick with no cure forthcoming, and degenerates running around [redacting] each other kinda does make sense in that context.

As it relates to discussions here, I often thought about suggesting a "Current Affairs" board for topics like this, but now I am glad I didn't because the juice (kek) simply isn't worth the squeeze. CODOH in my opinion is at its strongest when it is discussing the Holocaust first and foremost, NS Germany and WW2 second, and the Jewish Question in a distant third. I say distant because well, you've read this thread.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Do you accept the US “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Germar Rudolf? Of Ernst Zündel? Of John Kiriakou? Of Edward Snowden?
Do you accept the German “justice system of the land‘s” treatment of Ernst Zündel? Of Sylvia Stolz? Of Ursula Haverbeck?
Do you accept the UK’s “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Mark Weber, or of Alison Chabloz? Or of Julian Assange?

Do you accept the “justice system of the land’s” treatment of the accused at Nürnberg?

Do you accept Israel’s “justice system of the land’s” treatment of Adolf Eichmann?

If your answer is ‘no’ on ANY of those, why the double-standard here?
I’m genuinely asking. I’d like to understand.

The FBi’s case is falling apart. I want to understand why people still believe anything the MSM and the powers-that-be say about anything other than the sports results!

The supposed confession’ of Tyler is proved to be false. It is a lie!
Tyler did NOT confess.
Neither did his parents ever think he was the person in the photos.
And neither did they EVER think he was guilty. They were all persuaded it was better for him to turn himself in rather than a SWAT team be sent out to take him and the risk he would be killed.
Also the FBI timeline doesn't add up.
Etc., etc.

Nazgul, your logic lacks consistency between a.) analysing the official governmental and MSM-approved jewish holocaust narrative and b.) the official governmental and MSM-approved Kirk killing narrative. In fact your logic and approach is diametrically opposed on each.
You are making many ridiculously false statements.
What’s going down! bro?

You are trolling but I do not mind that so much.

Ho-hum! Another deceitful attempt at deflection and avoidance from the points and genuine, honest questions raised by me.

I support the Justice system despite flaws. It is the best we can have at the moment.

And yet another dodge.

Your antisemitic rhetoric is tiresome.

And ending with another slanderous ad hominem false allegation.

Nazgul is clearly in denial about numerous things. Which I find fascinating.
1.) in denial that jews operate as ‘collectives’ for perceived jewish self-interests.
E.g. one obvious one being the eight decades long land theft in Palestine with a huge PR propaganda network to portray themselves as victims when they are met with ANY form of resistance, whether peaceful marches, peaceful protests, political boycotts or armed resistance.
They even have a name for their PR propaganda (mass-deception and misinformation programme): ‘hasbara’.
This isn’t an anti-semitic trope. Its a well attested fact that zionist jews are proud of. So denial no.1.

2.) in denial that WHEN jews operating as a collective do unethical, unjust, criminal actions, they definitely do warrant criticism for their ‘collective’ actions (the SUBJECT OF THIS TOPIC-THREAD)

3. in denial that ‘collective’ lies, deceptions and mass-manipulation of public opinion is a particularly jewish-collective trait. Something observed as a generalisation by numerous famous people over centuries. To call that fact ‘anti-semitism’ is a ironically another deceitful dodge and successful jewish manipulation of public opinion. Again, this isn’t conjecture: jewish organisations brag about this ability amongst themselves: as the Mossad motto (‘by way of deception wage war’) demonstrates.

4.) in denial that our judicial systems are actually untrustworthy, corrupt organisations when it comes to administering justice impartially with anything to do with jewish interests. E.g. the draconian punishment for WW2 ‘thought-crimes’ (deceitfully calling it ‘holocaust denial’ for genuine historical research, plus ‘hate-speech’ for identifying jewish deceptions about their ‘collective WW2 experience). Also in denial of the unjust criminalisation and persecution for any exposure of governmental corruption such as happened to John Kiriakou, Ed Snowdon, Julian Assange and now in UK and America for protesting jewish-Zionist mass-murder and supporting Palestinians’ basic human rights.

5.) in denial that Mossad — aka Zionist jews working for land theft and a jew-only lebensraum in the middle-east — are regarded by all governments world-wide as the most active group involved in assassins worldwide.
Ref: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravd ... sinations/

6.) in denial that the Charlie Kirk killing is widely perceived as another zionist hit:

Over the decades, Israel and its Mossad intelligence service had committed an enormous number of political assassinations all around the world, eliminating their real or perceived enemies with unmatched skill and subtlety.
In January 2020, I’d published a very long article on that topic that heavily drew upon Rise and Kill First, Ronen Bergman’s highly authoritative 2018 volume.

But in the last few years, this campaign of Israeli political assassinations had gone into extreme overdrive, successfully striking down such huge numbers of targets that I published an additional article three months ago.
Zionist Israel as the Assassination Nation, June 23, 2025.
Therefore, a few hours after hearing of Kirk’s death, I decided to very gingerly raise these possibilities with someone well situated in conservative circles who personally knew Kirk, and I was shocked by his response. Although I had never mentioned Israel by name, he unequivocally told me that everyone in Kirk’s circle, even including important Trump Administration officials, suspected that Israel had probably killed [him] .
While such beliefs might not necessarily be correct, I was astonished that they were apparently so widespread without even any hints reported anywhere in the mainstream or conservative media.

I recommend reading the whole article for anyone genuinely interested in facts, concealed evidence and intelligent analysis of the facts here.

After [academic John Mearsheimer] was asked about allegations that Israel had been involved in Kirk’s killing, Mearsheimer immediately also brought up the JFK Assassination and the 9/11 Attacks, stating that “a lot of people” believed that Israel was involved in all three of those traumatic American events and that “all sorts of people” thought that Israel was behind the Kirk assassination.
While he never for a moment suggested that he himself subscribed to those incendiary notions, the impact of citing those past examples completely unprompted was quite powerful. I think that six months or a year ago only individuals considered on the extreme ideological fringe would have been willing to make such statements in public interviews. One might also easily suspect that he was employing the classic journalistic technique of putting extremely controversial ideas into play by safely ascribing them to others.

… Other guests were even more direct. The next day former CIA analysts Ray McGovern and Larry Johnson were interviewed on the same subject. McGovern seemed to clearly suspect that the Israelis might have killed Kirk and when Napolitano then asked Johnson whether the Israelis had ever assassinated anyone on American soil, he seemed flustered when the answer he got was “John F. Kennedy”.

During the George W. Bush Administration, former Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski had been a staffer on the National Security Council and then became a leading whistleblower regarding some of the outrageous Neocon actions that led to our disastrous Iraq War. In her interview, she not only suggested that Israel had assassinated Kirk, but she argued that the very high-profile nature of the killing had probably been intended to “send a message” to President Trump.

Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi regarded Netanyahu’s immediate and repeated public denials that he had killed Kirk as effectively amounting to a public confession that he had actually done so.
https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-charlie ... 1-attacks/

CONCLUSION:
Q. How is any of this related to holocaust revision?
A. Because the very same procedures, systems and even organisations that promulgate the holocaust narrative in order to: further zionist interests; justify jewish-collective criminality; shield jewish-collectives from criticism and legal consequences;
are the same ones committing mass-murder and politically-motivated assassinations NOW on an unprecedented scale.

And the ad hominem smear applied to anyone calling attention to these jewish-collective, mass-deception and concealment programmes is the same in both cases.

I’m genuinely amazed that people who have spent years uncovering and analysing the officially promoted deceptions of the WW2 ‘holyH’ narrative can’t see (or are not interested) in this wider perspective.

FINAL WORD:
Well one point of clarity has been achieved by these recent replies here. We now know why Nazgul has brought out the ad hominem a-s smear tactic to deflect from facts he’s uncomfortable with and/or in denial of: he self-identifies as ‘jüdische’.

[Callafangers]

Ich bin ein jüdischer Nationalsozialist.

As complex and contentious as such a position may be, I believe it warrants respect. Wherever I were to find myself genetically, culturally/ethnically, etc., I would stand with what I find to be true and aim for integrity, justice, and a responsible national and global order. I think that is what National Socialism aspires toward, at its core. Only when taken in snippets and without broader context can it be framed as is commonly done (it being chiefly about aggression, supremacist ideals, persecuting 'minorities', etc.).

I think most of us here recognize the situation in the world is not ideal. Echoing HansHill's latest comments, as much as there is to say about the world and its many questionable events, I feel we are best serving the mission toward a more rational (and compassionate) world order by exposing this biggest-of-lies we find milked over and over again in the despicable schemes to subvert nations. The other topics addressed (e.g. assassinations) are important but the huge amount of work still unfinished in Holocaust revisionism speaks for itself, and we're called upon to assist in moving the needle.

[Nazgul]

Ich bin ein jüdischer Nationalsozialist.

As complex and contentious as such a position may be, I believe it warrants respect. Wherever I were to find myself genetically, culturally/ethnically, etc., I would stand with what I find to be true and aim for integrity, justice, and a responsible national and global order. I think that is what National Socialism aspires toward, at its core. Only when taken in snippets and without broader context can it be framed as is commonly done (it being chiefly about aggression, supremacist ideals, persecuting 'minorities', etc.).

I think most of us here recognize the situation in the world is not ideal. Echoing HansHill's latest comments, as much as there is to say about the world and its many questionable events, I feel we are best serving the mission toward a more rational (and compassionate) world order by exposing this biggest-of-lies we find milked over and over again in the despicable schemes to subvert nations. The other topics addressed (e.g. assassinations) are important but the huge amount of work still unfinished in Holocaust revisionism speaks for itself, and we're called upon to assist in moving the needle.

Thank you for your understanding.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Quite frankly, anyone who tries to bury exposure of the colossal crimes of jewish-collectives*
that are happening NOW in our own times — and on a daily basis — does NOT deserve anyone’s respect for doing THAT!!!

And Nazgul has just done exactly that.

Plus he used the disgusting, deeply reprehensible, intellectually lazy, low tactic of REPEATEDLY trying to obscure compelling evidence of jewish-collectives’ involvement in numerous high-profile murders and assassinations by using the FALSE ‘anti-semite’ smear / slander.

I suggest to ALL readers here at CODOH that no-one should be respected for stooping to that canard.

Plus, if Nazgul doesn’t retract it and apologise for it, then they will not only NOT be getting my respect, but he will have inadvertently PROVED THE POINT. (Oh, the irony).
Viz. that people who self-identify as members of the elite, abstract tribe DEFINITELY DO gang together and lie about anyone who exposes any of the multitude of machiavellian machinations by ‘JEWISH COLLECTIVES’!

[*i.e. that is not an attack on ALL jews, but is specifically referencing large collectives of people who are united in nefarious activities by their self-identification as being members of an abstract, world-wide, elite tribe of eternal victims]

[HansHill]

"bury exposure"

Didn't he start a new thread of RODOH to discuss it?

[Wahrheitssucher]

"bury exposure"

Didn't he start a new thread of RODOH to discuss it?

Not according to him. He wrote he started a thread to discuss me.

“I started a thread at RODOH to discuss this sad young man…”

[HansHill]

"bury exposure"

Didn't he start a new thread of RODOH to discuss it?

Not according to him. He wrote he started a thread to discuss me.

“I started a thread at RODOH to discuss this sad young man…”

I assumed "sad young man" was the shooter they were discussing?

[Stubble]

The 'sad young man' is the Tyler Robinson fellow. For clarity and continuity.

I've seen the thread, it is VERY clear.

[Wahrheitssucher]

The 'sad young man' is the Tyler Robinson fellow. For clarity and continuity.

I've seen the thread, it is VERY clear.

Ok. Then I misunderstood and was in error …on that point.
I stand corrected. I acknowledge I was wrong about that.

But I stand by everything else said:
1. Nazgul tried to close down discussion here with a false a-s ad hominem slander:
2. he tried to close down this discussion here by moving it to a site with virtually no traffic/readership;
3. he continued to propagate FALSE msm, trump-governmental and FBI narratives prematurely declaring that Tyler is the self-confessed shooter.
4. he falsely characterised a highly probable zionist patsy as a ‘sad young man’.
5. he tried to shut down a discussion of all the assassinations and political killings that look like were the work of JEWISH COLLECTIVES.

SUMMARY: He is a person self-identifying as ‘jewish’ who felt it was his duty to assist the false narrative that is being used to divide America and justify erosion of civil liberties around effectively a public execution that according to someone in Kirk's entourage, everybody within his team thinks Israel was behind.
If anyone here doesn’t think that is both revealing and troublesome, I respectfully suggest YOU haven’t yet understood the wider perspective of holyH promotion that my post tried to raise.

[Stubble]

Well, I called Tyler >colorful expletives< and I also mentioned this isn't the thread for that particular can of worms. Here we continue to be though, ruminating on the public assassination of Charlie Kirk, without all the facts in front of us, and relying on pure conjecture.

Personally, I don't think a 160 yard shot is particularly hard with an '06. I still need to see the projectile. I suspect a true hollow point given the film I've seen showing the expansion cavity and the report I've read talking about the bullet fragmenting inside the spine and blowing out 6 vertebrae.

I find no fault with the FBI sequence of events.

The rifle was broken down in the fellows pants, half on both sides, you can see the scope bulge on his right side in a few of the security frames when he bends correctly.

He accessed the roof through a service door. This would have thrown an alarm unless the alarm was disabled.

The shooter reassembled the weapon and laid on the towel and took his shot. After Charlie fell out of his seat, he didn't cycle the bolt and left the brass in the pipe.

He rolled the rifle up on the towel and then did his exfiltration. The rifle can be observed in the towel during his decent from the roof and as he walks to cross the street.

He was in discord chats with people who wrote songs about the shooting prior to the event and expressed foreknowledge on social media platforms.

This list can get very long.

Sometimes things really are just this simple.

I don't see a 'jewish conspiracy' here and if it weren't for Netanyahu immediately yelling Israel didn't do it, I would lend the idea absolutely 0 credence.

Currently, I want evidence, so, on other platforms I am asking questions and seeking answers. I'm not doing that here because the shooting is not even tangentially related to the Holy H.