Sobibor Mass Graves?

[Nessie]

And how do you want to sell us on mass murder?

The corroborating evidence that mass murder took place.

If the bodies turned to ash, then show them.

There are plenty of photos of cremated remains found at Sobibor. Mattogno also reported on forensic testing by the Polish in 1945, that confirmed human remains.

We won't accept Caroline's argument that she didn't find all the bones of a single body and then went around claiming to have found a mass grave.

The geophysical survey she ran, found large pits next to the memorials, in areas of the camp (TII) identified as having mass graves, by the eyewitnesses.

When you lot just want to deny the evidence, of course you give yourself the impression that there is a lack of evidence for mass graves.

[Keen]

An important note here:

The Belzec myth stands on kola's "findings" yet the jews want to put Kola's "findings" at Sobibor down the memory hole.

And there's something else that many people don't know. Years ago the PBS show NOVA had a program about the archaeological / geophysical "investigation" of Sobibor shot, edited and ready to air. They had even begun to air the trailer for the show. Then Greg Gerdes started asking questions about the info in the trailer and was encouraging people to watch the show when it aired. Then suddenly, suprise suprise, the trailer was pullled and the show never aired and it has been put down the memory hole as well.

[Keen]

When you lot just want to deny the evidence, of course you give yourself the impression that there is a lack of evidence for mass graves.

What a retard. I don't know what else to say about this low IQ cult member. Just plain retarded.

I encourage everyone who participates in this thread to respond to the retard with this set of questions everytime it chimes in with it's lies:

4 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 24 alleged Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question: _?_.

9 - List all of the Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: _?_.

* "Grave" numbers can be found here: viewtopic.php?p=15633#p15633

14 - List all of the Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: _?_.

19 - List all of the Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: _?_.

24 - Of the 24 alleged Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: _?_.

[Keen]

Yoram Haimi:

Graves 1 and 2 are not mass graves.

https://codoh.com/library/document/prel ... 3-May2014/

But they are still shown as mass graves on maps.

It also looks like the jews are now claiming that there are only 22 "huge mass graves" at Sobibor.

So what is 250,000 divided by 22?

11, 364

But the best they can do is this: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11 ... 391739.jpg

[Keen]

Let's locate those 250,000 missing jews that the tards say were resettled in Sobibor

+ "Mass grave" #1: (Haimi: "Graves one and two are not mass graves.") - https://static-cdn.toi-media.com/www/up ... 24x640.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

+ "Mass grave" #2: (Haimi: "Grave 2... did not constitute a mass grave.")

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

"Mass grave" #3/4: ("Mass graves" 3 and 4 are now considered one "grave")

"Mass grave" #5:

"Mass grave" #6:

"Mass grave" #7:

+ "Mass grave" #8/15: ("Mass graves" 8 and 15 are now considered one "grave") - (Haimi: "This grave [15] is similar to grave #1... [Which Haimi admitts is not a mass grave.] The northern part of the grave is deeper: 2.5 meters in depth and it lacks the remains of bones... Grave No. 8... is 1.80 meters in depth")

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

"Mass grave" #9:

"Mass grave" #10:

"Mass grave" #11:

+"Mass grave" #12: 6 skeletons - https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11 ... 391739.jpg

+ "Mass grave" #13: 1 skeleton - https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11 ... 391739.jpg

+ "Mass grave" #14: 1 skeleton

+ "Mass grave" #16: 2 skeletons

"Mass grave" #17:

"Mass grave" #18:

"Mass grave" #19:

"Mass grave" #20:

"Mass grave" #21:

+ "Mass grave" #22: (Haimi: "The area of Camp III is dominated by the ash mound... the mound of ashes passes directly over Grave No. 6.")
(The "ash mound" - https://infocenters.co.il/gfh/multimedi ... _1_web.jpg )

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 1 / one - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

TOTAL NUMBER OF "HUGE MASS GRAVES" COUNTED TO DATE: 8

TOTAL NUMBER OF jEWS ACCOUNTED FOR TO DATE: 11

AVERAGE NUMBER OF jEWS IN EACH COUNTED GRAVE: 1.375

NUMBER OF jews STILL MISSING: 249,989

AVERAGE NUMBER OF jEWS - ACCORDING TO THE TARDS - WHO SHOULD BE FOUND IN EACH OF THE REMAINING 12 "HUGE MASS GRAVES" - 20,832

[Stubble]

What of it fella's, where's the balance? Where's the 'clusters of bodies in wax fat transformation'?

They, miss 'em?

[Keen]

I don't see the remains of 250,000 jews at Sobibor.

If the remains of 250,000 jews really were at Sobibor - I would see it.

Therefore, there are no remains of 250,000 jews at Sobibor.

*
I don't see the remains of 250,000 jews at Sobibor.

If the remains of 250,000 jews really were at Sobibor, I'm 100% certain that the jews would not only be ready, willing and able to show them to me, but they would be shoving my nose in it.

But I only see the remains of 10 jews at Sobibor.

Therefore, I am 100% certain that the unsubstantiated allegation that the remains of 250,000 jews currently lie in 20 "huge mass graves" at Sobibor is a bald faced lie.

[Keen]

By examining each “scientifically proven mass grave” allegation separately, an intelligent person can easily
see just how utterly vacuous and criminally fraudulent this transparent archaeological hoax really is.

So let's try to locate those 250,000 jews that are fraudulently alleged to be buried in Sobibor, shall we?

First, here are the maps that show the fraudulently alleged "archaeologically proven huge mass graves" of Sobibor:

Map one: https://postimg.cc/8sL2bvXB

Map two: https://postimg.cc/gxpV26B7

Note: "Grave" #18 is not shown in the maps. (Maybe it has "magically disappeared" along with all the jews?)

NOTE: The average number of jews that should be buried in each of the 20 fraudulently alleged
"huge mass graves" - IF - the Sobibor holocaust story is true, is: 12,500

1 = "Mass grave" #1: (Haimi: "Graves one and two are not mass graves... The fill [of "grave" 1] is composed of... sand")
Photo: https://static-cdn.toi-media.com/www/up ... 24x640.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

2 = "Mass grave" #2: (Haimi: "At a depth of 3 meters we again encountered ground water... Grave 2... did not constitute a mass grave.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/XNkqPtNv/Sobibor2.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

3 = "Mass grave" #3/4: ("Mass graves" 3 and 4 are now considered one "grave") - (Haimi: "Bones and hair were discovered in Grave No. 3... Our investigations [of "grave" #4] uncovered over 2000 bone fragments")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L4Y33QcN/Sobibor3of3and4.jpg
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/tgvFhFDK/Sobibor4of3and4.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

4 = "Mass grave" #5: (Haimi: "Grave No. 5, two meters in depth, contained the remains of unburnt bones and hair.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L82PykQq/Sobiborgrave5.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

5 = "Mass grave" #6: (Haimi: "The eastern and western boundaries of Grave No. 6 were uncovered, revealing burnt bones... The asphalt sidewalk leading visitors to the mound of ashes passes directly over Grave No. 6.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/R0DrHbtw/Sobibor6.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

6 = "Mass grave" #7: (Haimi: "Grave No. 7 cancelled out the crematorium.")
Photo: https://postimg.cc/XZB0LZmf

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

7 = "Mass grave" #8/15: ("Mass graves" 8 and 15 are now considered one "grave") - (Haimi: "This grave [15] is similar to grave #1... it lacks the remains of bones... Grave No. 8... is 1.80 meters in depth. It contained three layers of human bones.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/Xvfpv4Fr/Sobibor8and15.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

8 = "Mass grave" #9: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

9 = "Mass grave" #10: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

10 = "Mass grave" #11: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

11 = "Mass grave" #12: 6 skeletons
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/B6NTySCs/xdum9skl.png

12 = "Mass grave" #13: 1 skeleton
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/prXwbdbB/Sobiborsi ... ephoto.jpg

13 = "Mass grave" #14: 1 skeleton
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/dtKQppRD/20250913-232757.jpg

14 = "Mass grave" #16: 2 skeletons
Photo:https://i.postimg.cc/GhcwkCJP/20250913-233406.jpg

15 = "Mass grave" #17: (Haimi: object 5681 served as a well that eventually was used as grave No. 17.)
Photo:

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

16 = "Mass grave" #18: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

17 = "Mass grave" #19: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

18 = "Mass grave" #20: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

19 = "Mass grave" #21: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

20 = "Mass grave" #22: (Haimi: "The area of Camp III is dominated by the ash mound")
Photo: https://infocenters.co.il/gfh/multimedi ... _1_web.jpg )

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 1 / one - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

TOTAL NUMBER OF "HUGE MASS GRAVES" COUNTED TO DATE: 13

TOTAL NUMBER OF jEWS ACCOUNTED FOR TO DATE: 11

AVERAGE NUMBER OF jEWS IN EACH COUNTED GRAVE: .85

NUMBER OF jEWS STILL MISSING: 249,989

AVERAGE NUMBER OF jEWS WHO SHOULD BE FOUND IN EACH OF THE 7 REMAINING
"HUGE MASS GRAVES" - IF - THE SOBIBOR hOLOCAUST STORY IS TRUE - 35,713

Note: The lying POS who insist that the 20 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Sobibor really do contain the remains
of 250,000 jews have not only been invited, but encouraged to submit photos that substantiate their absurd allegations.

This is the BEST that they can do. (And they do even worse when it comes to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary and Treblinka II.) Now you know why the jews have had to get laws passed criminalizing any public doubts about their transparent cognitive illusions.

And don't forget, there are thousands and thousands of dollars that the liars and frauds could earn - IF - the
fraudulent Sobibor holocaust story that they shamelessly peddle were true: http://thisisaboutscience.com/

[Keen]

There are plenty of photos of cremated remains found at Sobibor... When you lot just want to deny the evidence, of course you give yourself the impression that there is a lack of evidence for mass graves.

Let's see those photos then.

Let's see the very best photo that proves the existence of cremated reamins for each one of the 19 alleged "huge mass graves" that you got.

What are you waiting for Sergay?

What are you so afraid of?

[Keen]

Nessie:

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps.

There are plenty of photos of cremated remains found at Sobibor.

I can point to them in the ground.

[Keen]

Nessie:

There are plenty of photos of cremated remains found at Sobibor.

Nessie, we need photos of human remains for Sobibor "huge mass graves"

#9, #10, #11, #17, #18, #19, #20 & #21.

For a person who never misses an opportunity to allege that the "evidence" for the existence of mass graves is irrefutable, you sure are being quiet here.

Nessie:

There are plenty of photos of cremated remains found at Sobibor.

Then what are you waiting for Nessie?

What are you so afraid of?

[Keen]

I'm bumping this to show my work to date.

By examining each “scientifically proven mass grave” allegation separately, an intelligent person can easily
see just how utterly vacuous and criminally fraudulent this transparent archaeological hoax really is.

So let's try to locate those 250,000 jews that are fraudulently alleged to be buried in Sobibor, shall we?

First, here are the maps that show the fraudulently alleged "archaeologically proven huge mass graves" of Sobibor:

Map one: https://postimg.cc/8sL2bvXB

Map two: https://postimg.cc/gxpV26B7

Note: "Grave" #18 is not shown in the maps. (Maybe it has "magically disappeared" along with all the jews?)

NOTE: The average number of jews that should be buried in each of the 20 fraudulently alleged
"huge mass graves" - IF - the Sobibor holocaust story is true, is: 12,500

1 = "Mass grave" #1: (Haimi: "Graves one and two are not mass graves... The fill [of "grave" 1] is composed of... sand")
Photo: https://static-cdn.toi-media.com/www/up ... 24x640.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

2 = "Mass grave" #2: (Haimi: "At a depth of 3 meters we again encountered ground water... Grave 2... did not constitute a mass grave.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/XNkqPtNv/Sobibor2.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

3 = "Mass grave" #3/4: ("Mass graves" 3 and 4 are now considered one "grave") - (Haimi: "Bones and hair were discovered in Grave No. 3... Our investigations [of "grave" #4] uncovered over 2000 bone fragments")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L4Y33QcN/Sobibor3of3and4.jpg
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/tgvFhFDK/Sobibor4of3and4.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

4 = "Mass grave" #5: (Haimi: "Grave No. 5, two meters in depth, contained the remains of unburnt bones and hair.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L82PykQq/Sobiborgrave5.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

5 = "Mass grave" #6: (Haimi: "The eastern and western boundaries of Grave No. 6 were uncovered, revealing burnt bones... The asphalt sidewalk leading visitors to the mound of ashes passes directly over Grave No. 6.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/R0DrHbtw/Sobibor6.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

6 = "Mass grave" #7: (Haimi: "Grave No. 7 cancelled out the crematorium.")
Photo: https://postimg.cc/XZB0LZmf

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

7 = "Mass grave" #8/15: ("Mass graves" 8 and 15 are now considered one "grave") - (Haimi: "This grave [15] is similar to grave #1... it lacks the remains of bones... Grave No. 8... is 1.80 meters in depth. It contained three layers of human bones.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/Xvfpv4Fr/Sobibor8and15.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

8 = "Mass grave" #9: (Haimi: ???) This "huge mass grave" is just a tiny dot on the map, and is so small that apparently, it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

9 = "Mass grave" #10: (Haimi: ???) This "huge mass grave" is just a tiny dot on the map, and is so small that apparently, it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" grave even exists..

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

10 = "Mass grave" #11: (Haimi: ???) This "huge mass grave" is just a tiny dot on the map, and is so small that apparently, it doesn't even merit a mention in the literature.
Photo: The reality deniers can't even produce a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" grave even exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

11 = "Mass grave" #12: 6 skeletons
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/B6NTySCs/xdum9skl.png

12 = "Mass grave" #13: 1 skeleton
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/prXwbdbB/Sobiborsi ... ephoto.jpg

13 = "Mass grave" #14: 1 skeleton
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/dtKQppRD/20250913-232757.jpg

14 = "Mass grave" #16: 2 skeletons
Photo:https://i.postimg.cc/GhcwkCJP/20250913-233406.jpg

15 = "Mass grave" #17: (Haimi: "Object 5681 served as a well that eventually was used as grave No. 17.")
Photo: There isn't even a photo that proves that this alleged "scientifically proven" grave exists.

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

16 = "Mass grave" #18: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

17 = "Mass grave" #19: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

18 = "Mass grave" #20: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

19 = "Mass grave" #21: (Haimi: ???)
Photo:

20 = "Mass grave" #22: (Haimi: "The area of Camp III is dominated by the ash mound")
Photo: https://infocenters.co.il/gfh/multimedi ... _1_web.jpg )

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 1 / one - unless and until a reality denier can prove otherwise.

TOTAL NUMBER OF "HUGE MASS GRAVES" COUNTED TO DATE: 16

TOTAL NUMBER OF jEWS ACCOUNTED FOR TO DATE: 11

AVERAGE NUMBER OF jEWS IN EACH COUNTED GRAVE: .69

NUMBER OF jEWS STILL MISSING: 249,989

AVERAGE NUMBER OF jEWS WHO SHOULD BE FOUND IN EACH OF THE 4 REMAINING
"HUGE MASS GRAVES" - IF - THE SOBIBOR hOLOCAUST STORY IS TRUE - 62,497

Note: The lying POS who insist that the 20 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Sobibor really do contain the remains
of 250,000 jews have not only been invited, but encouraged to submit photos that substantiate their absurd allegations.

This is the BEST that they can do. (And they do even worse when it comes to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary and Treblinka II.) Now
you know why the jews have had to get laws passed criminalizing any public doubts about their transparent cognitive illusions.

And don't forget, there are thousands and thousands of dollars that the liars and frauds could earn - IF - the
fraudulent Sobibor holocaust story that they shamelessly peddle were true: http://thisisaboutscience.com/

[Stubble]

You missed the pony tail in grave #5. Apparently, that counts as a 'huge mass grave'.

[Keen]

You missed the pony tail in grave #5. Apparently, that counts as a 'huge mass grave'.

4 = "Mass grave" #5: (Haimi: "Grave No. 5, two meters in depth, contained the remains of unburnt bones and hair.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L82PykQq/Sobiborgrave5.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

[Stubble]

You missed the pony tail in grave #5. Apparently, that counts as a 'huge mass grave'.

4 = "Mass grave" #5: (Haimi: "Grave No. 5, two meters in depth, contained the remains of unburnt bones and hair.")
Photo: https://i.postimg.cc/L82PykQq/Sobiborgrave5.jpg

* We will give this "grave" a count of - 0 / zero - unless and until a reality denier can substantiate Haimi's unsubstantiated allegation.

My mistake, you did pop that one in there.