A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

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bombsaway wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:14 am The mere fact that Malkinia was a stop, does not necessarily mean there was disembarking there, so this is not direct evidence, just as the mere fact of Jews being delivered to "Treblinka" doesn't mean they were killed there.
Well said bombsaway.

There would have to be massive amounts of physical evidence that corroberated the allegations of mass burial, right?
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bombsaway wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:52 pm If we're talking just about arrivals to Treblinka camp (wherever you may imagine it to be), the Hoefle telegram specifies "recoded arrivals" to Treblinka, 700k.
700,000?

bombsaway, do you deny that the USHMM alleges that 925,000 jews were murdered and buried at Treblinka II?
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Nessie wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:49 am Revisionist standards of evidencing are so poor, that their theories would fail even at a school level of scrutiny.
Says the low IQ liar who claims that this photo of a few bones:

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is "evidence" that the remains of 925,000 jews are buried at T II.

I thought all the jews were magically disappeared via burning of the corpses?

These must not be jewish bones then, huh Nessie?

What would you think if the U.S. treasury were to claim that this photo:

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was "evidence" that all the gold alleged to be in Fort Knox was really there?
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bombsaway wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:25 am You could prove all of this if you just went there like Eric Hunt did.
And this is what Eric found at Treblinka:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6d0dRJBEaibD/
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I am not sure if this document has already been shown here, but if not, it's definitely worth discussing:
TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NO-063 PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 450a

TWO MEMORANDA BY GLOBOCNIK DESIGNATED AS "ENCLOSURES": (a) ORDERS ON HAND OF THE LABOR CAMPS IN THE LUBLIN DISTRICT AS OF 3 NOVEMBER 1943; (b) PROVISIONAL REPORT OF THE CASH OPERATION "REINHARDT," AS OF 15 DECEMBER 1943

Enclosure 1 Orders on Hand

Of the Shops of the SS Labor Camp in the District of Lublin on 3 November 1943 I. Total orders on hand according to shops.

1. Ostindustrie G.m.b.H., Lub-
lin [Eastern Industry Ltd., Lublin]

2. Deutsche Ausruestungs-
werke, Werke Lublin [German Equipment Works Plant Lublin] . . .

3. Textilwerk [Textile Works]
Poniatowa

4. Pelzwerk [Fur Works]
Trawniki

Zl. 5,552,700.00 [see] Annex 1
Zl. 7,989,000.00 [see] Annex 2
Zl. 13,000,000.00 [see] Annex 3
Zl. 4,536,000.00 [see] Annex 4
Zl. 31,077,700.00 1

II. These total orders on hand fall in the following production
groups :

1. Wood Zl. 5,728,000.00
2. Metal Zl. 4,171,000.00
3. Textiles Zl. 10,338,200.00
4. Leather Zl. 1,970,000.00
5. Furs Zl. 4,816,000.00
6. Others 2 Zl. 4,054,500.00
Zl. 31,077,700.00

1 Since these were almost exclusively orders for the processing of goods supplied to us, these orders on hand represent mainly wages and overhead expenses. The real value of the manufacture, if produced on our own account, that is if we ourselves supply the material, would therefore have been at least 50 percent higher.

2 Under other production groups [sonstige Fertigungsgruppen] are combined, among others, production of peat and/or generator coke; the only roofing-paper factory in the Lublin district; two watch repair shops; one brush factory; the largest bristle-processing plant of the Government General; basket- and straw- weaving plants; printing shop; production of concrete parts for the construction of barracks.

[Signed] Globocnik
Volume 5 (p. 554): https://archive.org/details/TrialsOfWar ... olCouncil/

31,000,000 zlotys in 1943 is something in the range of hundreds of millions of USD worth today, adjusting for inflation.
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There was a huge economic motive to murdering Jews, to steal their property and not have to accommodate them.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 6:07 am There was a huge economic motive to murdering Jews, to steal their property and not have to accommodate them.
Yea but the documents don't show this, Nessie. The documents show that Reinhardt was an economic operation, possibly used for transit and the like (also documented); not a 'gassing' site.

All you present are liars, during and after the war. Sad.
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Callafangers wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 6:59 am
Nessie wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 6:07 am There was a huge economic motive to murdering Jews, to steal their property and not have to accommodate them.
Yea but the documents don't show this, Nessie. The documents show that Reinhardt was an economic operation, possibly used for transit and the like (also documented); not a 'gassing' site.
The documents, you refer to, record the scale of the theft, which included underwear and gold from teeth. That is more consistent with the evidenced mass gassings, not the unevidenced resettlement.
All you present are liars, during and after the war. Sad.
You cannot find a single eyewitness who you believe, who worked in an AR camp.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 6:07 am There was a huge economic motive to murdering Jews, to steal their property and not have to accommodate them.
Strawman.

Who says the Germans "accommodated" the jews?

Nessie:
You cannot find a single eyewitness who you believe, who worked in an AR camp.
Every single person who allegedly "witnessed" mass graves in an AR camp was lying.

Every. Single. One.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 2:44 pm
The documents, you refer to, record the scale of the theft, which included underwear and gold from teeth. That is more consistent with the evidenced mass gassings, not the unevidenced resettlement.
How many underwear? How many teeth? And were the underwear clean or dirty? Boxers, tighty-whities? Thongs?
Nessie wrote:You cannot find a single eyewitness who you believe, who worked in an AR camp.
This is because locations of minimal interest framed as being of paramount importance to an allegation are likely to have almost all of the claims surrounding it be for purposes of the framing.

There isn't much documented testimony floating around about my local Wal-Mart's electronics section. But you can bet that if the Soviets claim there is a mass execution happening there, there will be LOTS, all in favor of these claims.
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Re: A New Revisionist Interpretation of Operation Reinhardt

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Callafangers wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 9:54 pm
Nessie wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 2:44 pm
The documents, you refer to, record the scale of the theft, which included underwear and gold from teeth. That is more consistent with the evidenced mass gassings, not the unevidenced resettlement.
How many underwear? How many teeth? And were the underwear clean or dirty? Boxers, tighty-whities? Thongs?
Since the mass theft of all personal possessions, is consistent with killing, not resettlement, it is no surprise you minimise the significance of that evidence.

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Nessie wrote:You cannot find a single eyewitness who you believe, who worked in an AR camp.
This is because locations of minimal interest framed as being of paramount importance to an allegation are likely to have almost all of the claims surrounding it be for purposes of the framing.
Well over a million people are recorded as having been transported to the AR camps and there were over 100 known workers and staff, but you cannot find a single eyewitness who you believe.
There isn't much documented testimony floating around about my local Wal-Mart's electronics section. But you can bet that if the Soviets claim there is a mass execution happening there, there will be LOTS, all in favor of these claims.
You are coming up with stupid excuses for not having any evidence.
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Nessie wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:06 am Well over a million people are recorded as having been transported to the AR camps
Nessie,
#1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The USHMM alleges that 600,000 jews were killed in Belzec, 250,000 jews were killed in Sobibor and 925,000 jews were killed in Treblinka II; and Yad Vashem alleges that 300,000 jews were killed in Chelmno and 70,000 jews were killed in Ponary - ??
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