Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)

[Keen]

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

The [2.145 million] killed at those camps, were buried there... Mass graves... are evidence by... physical remains.

Right. And we are supposed to be proving how many people are in each one of those huge mass graves by presenting the physical evidence that we both know is there. We are supposed to be proving that "resettlemnt" is impossible because the jews couldn't have been "resettled" after they were killed and buried. We can't prove that if we can't even say that x number of jews have been proven to be in any one particular mass grave.

Belzec turned out to be a bust. How about jumping in here Nessie, and helping your partner out as we move on to Chelmno?

We have been challenged to show Stubble EXACTLY where the jews went. Let's get getrdone, shall we?

[Stubble]

I asked Grok:

Q: "Can it be said that the remains of at least 100 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in any of the 33 alleged Belzec graves?"

A: "No, it cannot be said that the remains of at least 100 Jews have been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to currently lie in any specific one of the 33 mass graves at Belzec... these are extrapolations based on volume, not conclusive forensic or scientific proof of a specific number like 100 individuals in any one grave... Thus, no single grave meets the threshold of conclusive proof for containing at least 100 Jewish remains.

Q: "Can it be said that the remains of at least 6 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in any of the 33 alleged Belzec graves?"

A: "No, it cannot be said that the remains of at least 6 Jews have been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to currently lie in any specific one of the 33 mass graves at Belzec... no specific grave has a verified count of individuals, even for a number as low as 6... Thus, no single grave meets the threshold of conclusive proof for containing at least 6 Jewish remains."

Stubble, would you mind if we forgot about Belzec for a while and move on to Chelmno?

Huh? Yea, sure bud, no problem.

There are some bone chips there. Some decedents may have been processed in the animal incinerator there. Process would have been slow. Mattogno was nice enough to publish a 'Holocaust Handbook' that covers this.

So far as actual bodies being discovered on site there, so far as I know, the number is 0.

[Keen]

I asked Grok:

Q: "Can it be said that the remains of at least 100 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in any of the 33 alleged Belzec graves?"

A: "No, it cannot be said that the remains of at least 100 Jews have been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to currently lie in any specific one of the 33 mass graves at Belzec... these are extrapolations based on volume, not conclusive forensic or scientific proof of a specific number like 100 individuals in any one grave... Thus, no single grave meets the threshold of conclusive proof for containing at least 100 Jewish remains.

Q: "Can it be said that the remains of at least 6 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in any of the 33 alleged Belzec graves?"

A: "No, it cannot be said that the remains of at least 6 Jews have been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to currently lie in any specific one of the 33 mass graves at Belzec... no specific grave has a verified count of individuals, even for a number as low as 6... Thus, no single grave meets the threshold of conclusive proof for containing at least 6 Jewish remains."

Stubble, would you mind if we forgot about Belzec for a while and move on to Chelmno?

Huh? Yea, sure bud, no problem.

There are some bone chips there. Some decedents may have been processed in the animal incinerator there. Process would have been slow. Mattogno was nice enough to publish a 'Holocaust Handbook' that covers this.

So far as actual bodies being discovered on site there, so far as I know, the number is 0.

Not true.

It has been proven that the remains of 300,000 jews are buried in 21 mass graves there.

And my partner Nessie and I are going to prove that it has been proven.

And you can take that to the bank!

Edited to add:

BTW Stubble, Nessie and I would like to appologize to you for claiming that we could prove that 600,000 jews were buried in 33 huge mass graves at Belzec. We alleged that we could prove that it was impossible for those 600,000 jews to have been resettled elsewhere. We failed to do so. And we also failed to refute https://thisisaboutscience.com/ opening statement of fact. So yeah, they could have been resettled elsewhere, and yeah, we didn't prove that any one grave at Belzec contains so-much-as 6 people. It hurts to admit it, but there it is.

But we will get you on Chelmno by god!

[Stubble]

Edited to add:

BTW Stubble, Nessie and I would like to appologize to you for claiming that we could prove that 600,000 jews were buried in 33 huge mass graves at Belzec. We alleged that we could prove that it was impossible for those 600,000 jews to have been resettled elsewhere. We failed to do so. And we also failed to refute https://thisisaboutscience.com/ opening statement of fact. So yeah, they could have been resettled elsewhere, and yeah, we didn't prove that any one grave at Belzec contains so-much-as 6 people. It hurts to admit it, but there it is.

Some Sveen Day

https://odysee.com/@UncleSvenAgain:3/BelzecCase:9

[Keen]

OK, Chelmno.

Here's what my partner Nessie and I are going to shove down your throat Stubble:

The CONCLUSIVE archaeological / forensic / scientific - PROOF - that refutes, with 100% certainty, the revisionist claim that 300,000 jews were NOT settled in Chelmno.

When Nessie and I are done with you, I hope you have the courage, integrity and character to appologize to us like we appologized to you for not being able to show you evidence that a single jew was settled at Belzec.

Nessie, I'm going to let you take the lead here - give you a chance to redeem yoursef after your embarrasing Belzec failure.

And just a reminder here Stubble:

Nessie:

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps [except Belzec] and Chelmno.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

Give it to 'em Nessie!

[Nessie]

I want to bump this thread, just to continue to ask, 'Where'd they goed'?

The question has been answered. Millions were arrested and killed, whilst millions avoided arrest and feld, and a few hundred thousand of those arrested survived till liberation, by escaping, or in the camps, or being able to buy freedom.

[Keen]

The question has been answered.

I'm sorry Nessie, but as partners, we have to make make sure that all of our statements of fact are 100% accurate.

The question that needs to be answered at this time is:

If 300,000 jews were resettled into 21 individual settlements at Chelmno, then how many jews are in each individual settlement?

[Hektor]

Where'd they go?

Good question, it would be great if we could find them, wouldn't it. You however, don't seem to be looking.

Instead, we are told that the remains of millions are in holes in the ground in Poland. Holes that are now and have been for years being covered in concrete, bare twisted rebar and jagged rocks.

Long ago the orthodoxy settled on it as a presupposed fact that millions of jews were murdered, buried, dug up, cremated and then reburied.
....

Allegedly, millions of Jews are missing, but nobody bothers to look for them or search them. Instead it is assumed apriori that they've been gassed or killed otherwise.

[Nessie]

Where'd they go?

Good question, it would be great if we could find them, wouldn't it. You however, don't seem to be looking.

Instead, we are told that the remains of millions are in holes in the ground in Poland. Holes that are now and have been for years being covered in concrete, bare twisted rebar and jagged rocks.

Long ago the orthodoxy settled on it as a presupposed fact that millions of jews were murdered, buried, dug up, cremated and then reburied.
....

Allegedly, millions of Jews are missing, but nobody bothers to look for them or search them. Instead it is assumed apriori that they've been gassed or killed otherwise.

Part of the circumstantial evidence for the mass killings, is how millions of Jews disappeared from Nazi records, at certain specific places. The Nuremberg race laws, which were applied in all occupied countries, required the identification, arrest and imprisonment of Jews in camps or ghettos. Jews were an enemy on a par with partisans and Communists, and Nazi policy was to rid them from occupied Europe.

For millions of Jews, arrested 1939-44, records of their existence end at the AR camps, Chelmno or on arriving at Birkenau. Others vanish after they were sent to the ghetto at Riga, or from the Warsaw ghetto, during the rebellion. The entire Jewish population of Kyiv disappeared at Babi Yar.

By 1944, the last ghetto at Lodz had closed. The population of A-B in 1944, was smaller than in 1943. The displaced persons agencies, after the war, only dealt with a few hundred thousand Jews, out of millions of displaced people. Every country occupied or aligned to the Nazis reported drops in the population of Jewish citizens. Two exceptions were Denmark and Finland, who refused to cooperate with the arrests. The more cooperative an occupied country was, the more Jews they reported as failed to return after the war.

A lot of work has been put into tracing agencies, identifying people for compensation claims and gathering evidence to establish what happened to arrested Jews. So-called revisionists do not want to admit to that.

[Stubble]

Where'd they go?

Good question, it would be great if we could find them, wouldn't it. You however, don't seem to be looking.

Instead, we are told that the remains of millions are in holes in the ground in Poland. Holes that are now and have been for years being covered in concrete, bare twisted rebar and jagged rocks.

Long ago the orthodoxy settled on it as a presupposed fact that millions of jews were murdered, buried, dug up, cremated and then reburied.
....

Allegedly, millions of Jews are missing, but nobody bothers to look for them or search them. Instead it is assumed apriori that they've been gassed or killed otherwise.

That seems to be the long and short of it.

[Nessie]

Where'd they go?

Good question, it would be great if we could find them, wouldn't it. You however, don't seem to be looking.

Instead, we are told that the remains of millions are in holes in the ground in Poland. Holes that are now and have been for years being covered in concrete, bare twisted rebar and jagged rocks.

Long ago the orthodoxy settled on it as a presupposed fact that millions of jews were murdered, buried, dug up, cremated and then reburied.
....

Allegedly, millions of Jews are missing, but nobody bothers to look for them or search them. Instead it is assumed apriori that they've been gassed or killed otherwise.

That seems to be the long and short of it.

The only people, not interested in looking for them, are so-called revisionists. There are various archives, such as Bad Arolsen, which have the specific task of looking for victims and survivors.

[Keen]

Part of the circumstantial evidence for the mass killings, is how millions of Jews disappeared

If the remains of 2.145 million jews are buried in "huge mass graves" at B, C, P, S & TII, like you and other retards like you allege they are, then they did not "disappear." The fact is, there is more "circumstantial evidence" that the jews were abducted by ailiens than there is for the retarded mass burial lie that retards like you peddle.

[Keen]

The only people, not interested in looking for them, are so-called revisionists.

Nessie, you are a retarded, lying POS.

Stubble and I are looking for the 250,000 "missing jews" that you say were resettled in Sobibor - viewtopic.php?p=15633#p15633

We've discovered 9 of them so far.

And not one low IQ reality denier has stepped in and tried to help.

[Stubble]

Well, I've actually been looking for them in German wartime documents. I had always assumed some sizable percentage, like 10%, had indeed been buried at the Bug River camps based off of purported grave size.

Upon reading the reports from the excavation of Sobibor, I am no longer even considering a number in that region or that 'mass grave space' as we have been lead to believe, indeed exists.

Kola's findings were dead wrong on Sobibor. Belzec is now covered in concrete, rebar and jagged rocks, so, I guess we won't get a definitive answer on that one.

I will find these jews, something the orthodoxy has absolutely, definitively, refused to do, and continues to refuse to do.

No one on the orthodox side is interested in actually finding these missing persons, and they never have been.

[Nessie]

Well, I've actually been looking for them in German wartime documents.

To find the Jews sent to the death camps, you would need Nazi documentation that recorded mass transports from those camps to other places, or that recorded an ever-increasing Jewish population in the camps and ghettos 1939-44, such that by 1944, there were 5 to 6 million of them, at least. We both know no such documents exist.

I had always assumed some sizable percentage, like 10%, had indeed been buried at the Bug River camps based off of purported grave size.

Upon reading the reports from the excavation of Sobibor, I am no longer even considering a number in that region or that 'mass grave space' as we have been lead to believe, indeed exists.

Kola's findings were dead wrong on Sobibor. Belzec is now covered in concrete, rebar and jagged rocks, so, I guess we won't get a definitive answer on that one.

I will find these jews, something the orthodoxy has absolutely, definitively, refused to do, and continues to refuse to do.

No one on the orthodox side is interested in actually finding these missing persons, and they never have been.

Bad Arolsen, previously called the International Tracing Service.

https://arolsen-archives.org/en/

"The largest archive on victims and survivors of Nazi persecution.

USHMM

https://www.ushmm.org/remember/resource ... ctim-names

"The Museum’s Database of Holocaust Survivor and Victim Names contains records on people persecuted during World War II under the Nazi regime including Jews, Roma and Sinti, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Soviet prisoners of war, persons with disabilities, political prisoners, trade union leaders, "subversive" artists, those Catholic and Lutheran clergy who were seen as opponents of the regime, resisters, Jehovah's Witnesses, male homosexuals, and criminal offenders, among others."

JewishGen

https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/

"JewishGen's Holocaust Database is a unique and critically valuable collection of databases which contain information about Holocaust victims and survivors. As of May 2025, more than 6 million records are available in this continually updated collection, which includes Camp Records, Transport Lists, Name Lists, and a multitude of of other record types."

World Jewish Relief.

https://www.worldjewishrelief.org/what- ... qsQAvD_BwE

"For decades, World Jewish Relief’s Case Files were lost and forgotten, until a chance discovery revealed a treasure trove of documents detailing the extraordinary help the charity gave to Jews fleeing Nazi persecution. Now, we are returning these documents to families, revealing fascinating details of your family history.

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