Where'd they go?
Good question, it would be great if we could find them, wouldn't it. You however, don't seem to be looking.
Instead, we are told that the remains of millions are in holes in the ground in Poland. Holes that are now and have been for years being covered in concrete, bare twisted rebar and jagged rocks.
Long ago the orthodoxy settled on it as a presupposed fact that millions of jews were murdered, buried, dug up, cremated and then reburied.
To support this gruesome hypothesis, in lieu of locating the remains of the dead, the orthodoxy leans of flawed census and extrapolation of statistics based on them.
The same people who lied about soap made from corpses, a cottage industry of goods made from human skin, nazi gas chambers at the Eiffel Tower, at Dachau and various other places pose the question 'Where'd they go?' As they fervently refuse to look for them to resolve that nagging question.
From now on, whenever I am asked, where'd they go, the response I will be giving is, exactly, where'd they go?
Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
The Polish war crimes commission organised excavations and site surveys of the AR camps and Chelmno in 1945, gathering evidence of huge areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains. Due to grave robbing, by people searching for the jewellery the Jews had swallowed before they were gassed and war memorabilia, the sites were memorialised in the 1960s, but only TII was covered. After the collapse of the SU, the sites were variously excavated again in the 1990s, 2000s and they have all now been covered over.
The c1.6 million killed at those camps, were buried there and remains cremated. It does not matter that revisionists cannot believe that, or work out grave densities, or how the pyres functioned. Mass graves, the pyres and the numbers killed are evidence by eyewitnesses, documents and the physical remains.
The c900,000 murdered in the gas chambers at A-B, had their remains largely dumped in nearby rivers, or spread about fields, or buried, so even harder to identify or quantify.
Again, it does not matter that revisionists cannot believe mass gassings and cremations were possible.
The c1.6 million killed at those camps, were buried there and remains cremated. It does not matter that revisionists cannot believe that, or work out grave densities, or how the pyres functioned. Mass graves, the pyres and the numbers killed are evidence by eyewitnesses, documents and the physical remains.
The c900,000 murdered in the gas chambers at A-B, had their remains largely dumped in nearby rivers, or spread about fields, or buried, so even harder to identify or quantify.
Again, it does not matter that revisionists cannot believe mass gassings and cremations were possible.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
Where are the other 10,000,000?
Just granting your numbers out of hand as accurate (they aren't) where are the rest Nessie?
Just granting your numbers out of hand as accurate (they aren't) where are the rest Nessie?
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
It doesn't matter if non-believers don't believe in abductions therefore aliens exist. Unbelievable. 
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
They went to the camps. There they were killed. The uncomfortable fact you avoid, in making your comparison, is that hypothesis is orders magnitude better evidenced than the one you subscribe to, by any reasonable historical standard.
You should do an A-B comp
Revisionists attest to resettlement using things like Herman Kruk's diary, in which he relays a rumor of dutch Jews passing through Belarus, but later corrects to say it was just their furniture, they were killed prior. Of your post 1942 evidence, when the killing plan of Jews in central and Western Europe was decided on, all of that confirms the orthodox hypothesis more than your own. Kruk's diary is an example.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
30+ million people died in Europe in WW2. Where did they go? Do we need to dig up graves in battlefields in DNA test? What of Soviet crimes? Those graves, such as at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butovo_firing_range have not been not even been excavated, much less DNA tested. I think they may have used GPS at Butovo, which is claimed to be the largest Soviet killing center. Double standards much?
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
There is evidence as to the whereabouts of Jews who emigrated to places such as the UK and Palestine and saw out the war there. We know where the Danish and Finnish Jews spent the war, along with many Norwegians who escaped to Sweden. We also know about many French Jews, who were not arrested and saw out the war in France. Each European country has evidence as to how many of their Jewish citizens, who had been arrested by the Nazis, returned home at the end of the war and how many were dealt with by the Displaced Persons agencies and emigrated to the USA, Australia and Israel.
The big gap, are the 5-6 million Jews arrested by the Nazis, whose whereabouts is not known by 1944, let alone 1945. They disappear whilst in Nazi custody. can you find them?
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
I want to bump this thread, just to continue to ask, 'Where'd they goed'?
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
And then what? Did their bodies magically disappear?
If the evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then the claim is obviously false.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
Stubble, you may have noticed that I have come to my senses and stopped denying that 2.145 million jews were murdered and buried in 100 huge mass graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. I could no longer live with myself being on the dark side with "revisionism."
So you ask: "Exactly, where'd they go"?
Well, me and Nessie are about to answer that question. In fact, we will not be just "answering" it, we will be shoving the truth down deniers throats. We will be rubbing their noses in their lies and denial. If deniers have any shame, we will be shaming them like they've never been shamed before. We will flog them with the truth till they beg us to stop. And if you Stubble, have any courage, integrity or character, you will join us in exposing this truth that has been kept secret for far too long.
Why don't you stop your evil denying ways and join me and Nessie (and most likely bombsaway as well) on the side of truth and justice and end this question of "where did they go" once and for all?
Let me end by asking you a question that I hope you have the guts to answer:
The remains of no less than _?_ jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in Belzec grave #1.
If the evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then the claim is obviously false.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
1.6 million? Nessie, if we are going to be partners and show Stubble EXACTLY where the jews went, we have to get our numbers straight.
Since we've teamed up, we have been using these figures:
Let's stay consistant here partner, and let's give Stubble "exactly" what he's asking for.Belzec: 600,000
Chelmno: 300,000
Ponary: 70,000
Sobibor: 250,000
Treblinka II: 925,000
Total: 1.45 million.
Stubble seems to be afraid of answering a simple question. I"m not suprised, since deniers tend to clam up when cornered. But his silence does not prevent us from giving him what he wants.
OK Stubble, you want the truth? Can you handle the truth? We'll start with Belzec, and me and Nessie will fill in the blanks for you. (You are going to rue the day you challenged us!)
Grave #1 - _?_ ("Can it be said that the remains of at least 1,000 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in Belzec grave #1?" Chat gpt: "No—it cannot be conclusively said that the remains of at least 1,000 Jews lie in Belzec Grave #1, based solely on archaeological, forensic, or scientific evidence.")
Grave #2 - _?_ ("Can it be said that the remains of at least 1,000 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in Belzec grave #2?" Chat gpt: "No—it cannot be conclusively said that the remains of at least 1,000 Jews lie in Belzec Grave #2, based solely on archaeological, forensic, or scientific evidence.")
Grave #3 - _?_ ("Can it be said that the remains of at least 1,000 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in Belzec grave #3?" Chat gpt: "No—it cannot be conclusively said that the remains of at least 1,000 Jews lie in Belzec Grave #3, based solely on archaeological, forensic, or scientific evidence.")
Grave #4 - _?_ ("Can it be said that the remains of at least 1,000 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in Belzec grave #4?" Chat gpt: "No—it cannot be conclusively said that the remains of at least 1,000 Jews lie in Belzec Grave #4, based solely on archaeological, forensic, or scientific evidence.")
Grave #5 - _?_ (This isn't going as planned. I'm going to wait for Nessie to tell us the true figure for this grave and the rest of them.)
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Total: _?_
If the evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then the claim is obviously false.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
Ummm, Nessie, pro tip. We shouldn't be using the word "disappear."
Oh, BTW, I could use a little help here partner!
If the evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then the claim is obviously false.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
I wouldn't get too cocky if I were you mister.
Just wait till my partner Nessie gets here. He'll sort this all out and shove the truth down you throat!
We know that the following is true, because my partner DOES NOT LIE!!!
Nessie:
All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.
Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.
I can point to them in the ground.
If the evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then the claim is obviously false.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
Correction on a previous post.
I said I had asked Chat gpt, but it was Copilot. I gave it a rest and asked Copilot again and got a different response:
I asked ChatGPT:
I asked Grok:
I said I had asked Chat gpt, but it was Copilot. I gave it a rest and asked Copilot again and got a different response:
Q: Which of the 33 mass graves of Belzec has been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to contain the most human remans?
Copilot answer: "Thanks for the clarification—you're asking for the specific grave at Belzec that has been conclusively proven through archaeological or forensic investigation to contain the most human remains, not just the largest or most concentrated.
Based on the most detailed excavation records, particularly those from the 1997–1999 investigations led by Professor Andrzej Kola, the grave that fits your criteria is: Grave #20. Grave #20 stands out as the most conclusively proven to contain the largest quantity of human remains.
Q: Can it be said that the remains of at least 500 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in Belzec grave #20?
Copilot answer: "No, it cannot be conclusively stated—in archaeological, forensic, or scientific terms—that the remains of at least 500 Jews currently lie in Belzec grave #20."
I asked ChatGPT:
Q: Which of the 33 mass graves of Belzec has been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to contain the most human remans?
ChatGPT answer: "Ah, I see—thanks for clarifying! You’re asking about the specific mass grave at Belzec that has been scientifically and conclusively proven to contain the most human remains.
In terms of definitive archaeological, forensic, and scientific evidence, Grave Pit No. 1 is the most well-documented and conclusively proven grave in terms of containing a large volume of human remains."
Q: Can it be said that the remains of at least 500 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in Belzec grave #1?
ChatGPT answer: "You’re asking whether it can be stated that the remains of at least 500 Jews have been scientifically and conclusively proven to lie in Belzec grave pit No. 1."
No—that precise statement cannot be made."
I asked Grok:
Q: Which of the 33 mass graves of Belzec has been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to contain the most human remans?
Groks answer: "None of the 33 mass graves at Belzec has been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to contain the most human remains... no conclusive evidence identifies any single grave as containing the most human remains."
Q: Can it be said that the remains of at least 500 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in any of the 33 alleged Belzec graves?
Grok: "No, it cannot be said that the remains of at least 500 Jews have been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to currently lie in any specific one of the 33 mass graves at Belzec."
If the evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then the claim is obviously false.
Re: Where'd They Go? (An inverted question from exterminationists)
I asked Grok:
Stubble, would you mind if we forgot about Belzec for a while and move on to Chelmno?
Q: "Can it be said that the remains of at least 100 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in any of the 33 alleged Belzec graves?"
A: "No, it cannot be said that the remains of at least 100 Jews have been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to currently lie in any specific one of the 33 mass graves at Belzec... these are extrapolations based on volume, not conclusive forensic or scientific proof of a specific number like 100 individuals in any one grave... Thus, no single grave meets the threshold of conclusive proof for containing at least 100 Jewish remains.
Q: "Can it be said that the remains of at least 6 jews have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently lie in any of the 33 alleged Belzec graves?"
A: "No, it cannot be said that the remains of at least 6 Jews have been archaeologically, forensically, scientifically, or conclusively proven to currently lie in any specific one of the 33 mass graves at Belzec... no specific grave has a verified count of individuals, even for a number as low as 6... Thus, no single grave meets the threshold of conclusive proof for containing at least 6 Jewish remains."
Stubble, would you mind if we forgot about Belzec for a while and move on to Chelmno?
If the evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then the claim is obviously false.