The bombsaway / Nessie vs Keen debate on the resettlement issue

[Keen]

bombsaway:

The issue with revisionism is not that you haven't proven "resettlement" comprehensively or in its entirety, it's that you haven't evidenced a single aspect of it.

Keen:

We will start this debate with bombsaway telling us all where he thinks the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up.

Go ahead bombsaway.

We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the jews were resettled.

[Keen]

Bro the thread is apparently "on the resettlement issue" but what Keen is asking me about has nothing to do with resettlement, because obviously I don't think resettlement happened. This is why I think you guys are deranged.

Seriously?!?!?

You seriously think that?

Bro, he’s asking you to explain where YOU believe ‘they’ went.

That is a question he knows how bombsaway will answer.

That’s OBVIOUSLY NOT asking you to discuss “resettlement”.

Which means you are accidentally revealing the true intent Keen has, which is to discuss mass graves, not resettlement.

You really didn’t understand that?
I’m genuinely amazed if you really couldn’t comprehend such a simple thing.

I assume Keen is anticipating you will say ‘they’ went into the ground at specific places.

Obviously, and that will then result in a series of questions from Keen about the mass graves.

And I also assume he has questions prepared for this reply from you.

If you as a long-time holocaust believer, defender and debater, genuinely did NOT understand this, then as someone interested in human psychology I suggest YOUR response above has only two explanations.
And I think these apply to ANYONE and EVERYONE who has become familiar with the actual details of the holocaust narrative yet continue to deny the blatant flaws and physical impoosibilities that form the core of its story.
The two explanations are these.
Your avoidance in order to defend the racist, anti-German, atrocity propaganda of the mass-gassing ‘holocaust’ allegation, is derived from either:
a.) limited intellectual capacity (stupid)
or
b.) devious debating tactic (dishonest).

(Both related to psychology (your preferred subject). )

It usually is a combination of both a.) and b.)
In your case, I don’t think a.) applies, so conclude it is b.).

You are showing limited understanding of Keen's supposed debates and deferring back to your preferred tactic of questioning the intellect of your opponent.

Keen has already done enough to prove he is not interested in a genuine debate. He wants to control and for people to answer his questions only.

As long as the craven liar Nessie is chiming in here, let's ask him to do the same:

Nessie, go ahead and tell us all where your think the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up.

We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the jews were resettled.

Go ahead Nessie.

[Keen]

Keen has already done enough to prove he is not interested in a genuine debate.

Nessie, If you can show me exactly were one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up - deal?

[Keen]

Your [Nessie] avoidance in order to defend the racist, anti-German, atrocity propaganda of the mass-gassing ‘holocaust’ allegation, is derived from either:
a.) limited intellectual capacity (stupid)
or
b.) devious debating tactic (dishonest).

(Both related to psychology (your preferred subject). )

It usually is a combination of both a.) and b.)
In your case, I don’t think a.) applies, so conclude it is b.).

I say it's mostly due to a lmited intellectual capacity.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Your [Nessie] avoidance in order to defend the racist, anti-German, atrocity propaganda of the mass-gassing ‘holocaust’ allegation, is derived from either:
a.) limited intellectual capacity (stupid)
or
b.) devious debating tactic (dishonest).

Both related to psychology (your preferred subject).

It usually is a combination of both a.) and b.)
In your case, I don’t think a.) applies, so conclude it is b.).

I say it's mostly due to a limited intellectual capacity.

I was referring to Bombsaway.

The person you named has over many years demonstrated not just b.) but that they have deep mental problems.

DEFINITION:
Someone who has a severely disordered mind, cannot discern reality and who is unable to think clearly and sensibly, can be described as insane.

That definition applies to the person you named. They have shown over many years that they are quite unable to discern reality regarding the shoah shibbolith.

[Nessie]

Keen knows that bombsaway and I say that the vast majority of Jews transported to the AR camps, Chelmno and Ponary, were murdered and buried at those places, in mass graves, that were then subject to exhumations, cremations and reburial.

He wants to concentrate on that and not answer any questions about supposed resettlement. He then states "We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the Jews were resettled.", which applies to him as well. So, now he knows where we say the Jews went, before we can progress, he needs to state specific locations where Jews were resettled.

In the same way we can say c800,000 were buried at TII, c90,000 at Ponary, etc, he needs to say that so many Jews were settled at and give the locations. Unless he does that, there cannot be any debate on resettlement. I expect him to fail and become abusive.

[Keen]

Keen knows that bombsaway and I say that the vast majority of Jews transported to the AR camps, Chelmno and Ponary, were murdered and buried at those places, in mass graves, that were then subject to exhumations, cremations and reburial.

He wants to concentrate on that and not answer any questions about supposed resettlement. He then states "We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the Jews were resettled.", which applies to him as well. So, now he knows where we say the Jews went, before we can progress, he needs to state specific locations where Jews were resettled.

In the same way we can say c800,000 were buried at TII, c90,000 at Ponary, etc, he needs to say that so many Jews were settled at and give the locations. Unless he does that, there cannot be any debate on resettlement. I expect him to fail and become abusive.

Nessie, If you can show me exactly were one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up - deal?

Now let's watch as Nessie squirms and tries to avoid what he has been challenged to do.

[Keen]

In the same way we can say c800,000 were buried at TII

Notice how Nessie says "were" and not are.

That's his "magically disappearing jew theory" language.

Nessie, is it - True. - or - False. - that the USHMM alleges that 925,000 jews ARE currently buried at Treblinka?

[Keen]

Your [Nessie] avoidance in order to defend the racist, anti-German, atrocity propaganda of the mass-gassing ‘holocaust’ allegation, is derived from either:
a.) limited intellectual capacity (stupid)
or
b.) devious debating tactic (dishonest).

Both related to psychology (your preferred subject).

It usually is a combination of both a.) and b.)
In your case, I don’t think a.) applies, so conclude it is b.).

I say it's mostly due to a limited intellectual capacity.

I was referring to Bombsaway.

The person you named has over many years demonstrated not just b.) but that they have deep mental problems.

DEFINITION:
Someone who has a severely disordered mind, cannot discern reality and who is unable to think clearly and sensibly, can be described as insane.

That definition applies to the person you named. They have shown over many years that they are quite unable to discern reality regarding the shoah shibbolith.

[Wahrheitssucher]

In the same way we can say c800,000 were buried at TII

Notice how Nessie says "were" and not ‘are’.

That's his "magically disappearing jew theory" language.

Oh yes!
How fascinating.

A freudian slip, perhaps. A subliminal admission that this HolyH believer actually KNOWS in reality they ‘are’ not there.

Well spotted!

[Nessie]

In the same way we can say c800,000 were buried at TII

Notice how Nessie says "were" and not ‘are’.

That's his "magically disappearing jew theory" language.

Oh yes!
How fascinating.

A freudian slip, perhaps. A subliminal admission that this HolyH believer actually KNOWS in reality they ‘are’ not there.

Well spotted!

From the same post;

"Keen knows that bombsaway and I say that the vast majority of Jews transported to the AR camps, Chelmno and Ponary, were murdered and buried at those places, in mass graves, that were then subject to exhumations, cremations and reburial."

[Nessie]

Keen knows that bombsaway and I say that the vast majority of Jews transported to the AR camps, Chelmno and Ponary, were murdered and buried at those places, in mass graves, that were then subject to exhumations, cremations and reburial.

He wants to concentrate on that and not answer any questions about supposed resettlement. He then states "We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the Jews were resettled.", which applies to him as well. So, now he knows where we say the Jews went, before we can progress, he needs to state specific locations where Jews were resettled.

In the same way we can say c800,000 were buried at TII, c90,000 at Ponary, etc, he needs to say that so many Jews were settled at and give the locations. Unless he does that, there cannot be any debate on resettlement. I expect him to fail and become abusive.

Nessie, If you can show me exactly were one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up - deal?

Now let's watch as Nessie squirms and tries to avoid what he has been challenged to do.

The first question was, from the OP;

"We will start this debate with bombsaway telling us all where he thinks the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up."

Keen then edited and added me into the thread and asked;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14708#p14708

"Nessie, go ahead and tell us all where your think the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up.

We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the jews were resettled.

Go ahead Nessie."

He did not wait for an answer to that and in the next post demanded;

"Nessie, If you can show me exactly were one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up - deal?"

I answered the original question here;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14758#p14758

"Keen knows that bombsaway and I say that the vast majority of Jews transported to the AR camps, Chelmno and Ponary, were murdered and buried at those places, in mass graves, that were then subject to exhumations, cremations and reburial."

I then pointed out that he had said;

"We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the Jews were resettled."

This is a thread, he started about resettlement. But, as predicted, he is being dishonest, his intention was never to discuss resettlement. His intention is to, yet again, in yet another thread, discuss the burials, or alleged lack of them.

"Nessie, If you can show me exactly were one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up - deal?"

He demands control of the so-called debate and he will keep it about burials, not resettlement. This is why debate is not possible with him.

"Now let's watch as Nessie squirms and tries to avoid what he has been challenged to do."

I see you constantly squirming to avoid actual debate, that you do not have control over, where you also answer questions. You have started a thread on resettlement. You said it is not possible to have a debate without knowing where Jews were resettled. But he squirms and runs away from answering his own question. So, again;

"We can't have a debate on the resettlement issue if we don't know where you think the Jews were resettled."

How can we debate resettlement, if we don't know where you think the Jews were resettled?

[Keen]

Keen knows that bombsaway and I say that the vast majority of Jews transported to the AR camps, Chelmno and Ponary, were murdered and buried at those places, in mass graves... So, now he knows where we say the Jews went... In the same way we can say c800,000 were buried at TII, c90,000 at Ponary, etc...

Nessie, do you deny that the USHMM alleges that 925,000 jews were murdered and buried at T II?

Are you saying that 125,000 jews that were sent to T II were ressetled someplace other than T II (you use the term "vast majority - so you are admitting that at least some jews were resettled), or are you saying that the USHMM is lying?

Nessie:

He did not wait for an answer to that and in the next post demanded;

"Nessie, If you can show me exactly where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up - deal?"

The key words here Nessie, are: "show me exactly."

I don't see any evidence at all that even one jew was resettled at TII, and I don't recall you ever showing me exactly where you say the jews ended up at T II.

Nessie, did you show me exactly where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Now let's watch poor Nessie squirm even more!

[Keen]

Nessie:

I can point to them [the resettled jews] in the ground at Treblinka II.

Right, you keep saying that, but you never do.

Except for this:



Is that some of your "800,000 resettled jews" of T II?

Was that your response to this challenge of mine to you:

"Nessie, If you can show me exactly where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up - deal?"

?

Isn't it funny how there are lots of bones of unknown origin, but no human skulls in that photo? Maybe the jews that were resettled to T II had magically disappearing skulls? That would explain why no human teeth have ever been discovered at T II, wouldn't it?

BTW Nesie, we are still waiting for you to answer some questions here:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14775#p14775

What are you waitng for?

What are you so afraid of?

[Keen]

Nessie;

He demands control of the so-called debate and he will keep it about burials, not resettlement.

Not true Nessie.

If you can show me exactly where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up.

Now let's watch poor Nessie squirm!