The bombsaway / Nessie vs Keen debate on the resettlement issue

[Keen]

The impetus for this thread came from this:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14576#p14576

We will start this debate with bombsaway telling us all where he thinks the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up.

Then I will ask him some questions.

Then I will tell everyone where I think they ended up.

Then he can ask me some questions.

When we get our foundation of fundamental facts built, we will then have a real debate on the issue.

All questions must be relevant to the issue and there will be no dodging.

Hopefully this will be a real debate and bombsaway wont chicken out and run away like Nessie and Confused jew have.

So go ahead and start bombsaway.

[Keen]

You're not afraid of agreeing to the no dodging of relevant questions rule here, are you bombsaway?

You're not afraid of real debate like Nessie and Confused jew are, are you bombsaway?

[bombsaway]

I think you know my answers to these questions. What do you think happened to those Jews who passed through those camps?

[Keen]

I think you know my answers to these questions. What do you think happened to those Jews who passed through those camps?

I haven't asked you a single question yet - other than these:

You're not afraid of agreeing to the no dodging of relevant questions rule here, are you bombsaway?

You're not afraid of real debate like Nessie and Confused jew are, are you bombsaway?

Questions will come later. This is how our debate will start:

We will start this debate with bombsaway telling us all where he thinks the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up.

Then I will ask him some questions.

Then I will tell everyone where I think they ended up.

Then he can ask me some questions.

When we get our foundation of fundamental facts built, we will then have a real debate on the issue.

Go ahead bombsaway.

You're not afraid to tell us where you think the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up, are you?

[Keen]

Mmmmm. Here we have someone who comes to a debate forum and makes statements like these:

The issue with revisionism is not that you haven't proven "resettlement" comprehensively or in its entirety, it's that you haven't evidenced a single aspect of it ... It's why I think you guys are pathological. You're not properly grappling with the enormous flaws in your belief system, which is a sign of derangement of some kind. By grappling, I mean writing about it, formalizing research and arguments.

Then cravenly refuses to tell us his resettlement argument.

What are you waiting for bombsaway?

What are you so afraid of?

You're not afraid of the no dodging rule of this thread, are you?

[bombsaway]

eh I don't hold you in high enough esteem to answer questions which I've already answered. if you donate to a charity of my choice (Gaza relief) I'll do it

or answer my question about what you think happened, which I haven't heard from you yet

[Keen]

eh I don't hold you in high enough esteem to answer questions which I've already answered. if you donate to a charity of my choice (Gaza relief) I'll do it

Gaza relief??? What the hell are you talking about?

Let's get back on track here bombsaway:

We will start this debate with bombsaway telling us all where he thinks the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up.

Then I will ask him some questions.

Then I will tell everyone where I think they ended up.

Then he can ask me some questions.

When we get our foundation of fundamental facts built, we will then have a real debate on the issue.

Go ahead bombsaway.

[Keen]

You're not afraid of agreeing to the no dodging of relevant questions rule here, are you bombsaway?

[Keen]

Oh come on now bombsaway. Are you telling me that you can come on this site and say this:

The issue with revisionism is not that you haven't proven "resettlement" comprehensively or in its entirety, it's that you haven't evidenced a single aspect of it . For instance, if you could point to records of food/fuel/supplies being delivered en masse to settlement zones (as exists for ghettos) this would be an aspect of it. But there's zip. There aren't even any rumors or second hand information. There's no transport records or witness testimonies that evidence the transport, again like there is to the Reinhardt camps/Chelmno/Auschwitz. Zeros across the board.

It's why I think you guys are pathological. You're not properly grappling with the enormous flaws in your belief system, which is a sign of derangement of some kind. By grappling, I mean writing about it, formalizing research and arguments.

Then not tell us where you think the jews who were sent to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II ended up?

And refuse to engage in real debate on a debate forum?

What kind of cowardly POS are you?

You're afraid of agreeing to the no dodging of relevant questions rule here, aren't you bombsaway?

Here's bombsaway, doing his best Nessie / Confused jew imitation:

[bombsaway]

lol the point of my quote there is that revisionists can scrutinize the other side but can't handle scrutiny of their positions. And you are showing exactly that right now, have fun

[Wahrheitssucher]

…the point of my quote there is that revisionists can scrutinize the other side but can't handle scrutiny of their positions.
And you are showing exactly that right now…

Wow!
No, that’s clearly not what is happening.

You made a statement.
Keen called you on it and challenged you to a genuine debate, BASED UPON the allegation of YOUR STATEMENT.
And you have run from his challenge.

You are again claiming the EXACT OPPOSITE of reality to be true.

Keen challenged YOU, in order to “scrutinise” the credibility of YOUR position.
And you ducked out immediately.

CONCLUSION: again it looks like you have psychological issues if you genuinely think anyone believes your complete reversal of what just occurred.

[bombsaway]

…the point of my quote there is that revisionists can scrutinize the other side but can't handle scrutiny of their positions.
And you are showing exactly that right now…

Wow!
No, that’s clearly not what is happening.

You made a statement.
Keen called you on it and challenged you to a genuine debate, BASED UPON the allegation of YOUR STATEMENT.
And you have run from his challenge.

You are again claiming the EXACT OPPOSITE of reality to be true.

Keen challenged YOU, in order to “scrutinise” the credibility of YOUR position.
And you ducked out immediately.

CONCLUSION: again it looks like you have psychological issues if you genuinely think anyone believes your complete reversal of what just occurred.

Bro the thread is apparently "on the resettlement issue" but what Keen is asking me about has nothing to do with resettlement, because obviously I don't think resettlement happened. This is why I think you guys are deranged.

[Nessie]

Keen has made himself clear, he will ask the questions, they must be answered to his satisfaction, he will control everything and avoid answering any questions and the result is not a debate.

[Wahrheitssucher]

…the point of my quote there is that revisionists can scrutinize the other side but can't handle scrutiny of their positions.
And you are showing exactly that right now…

Wow!
No, that’s clearly not what is happening.

You made a statement.
Keen called you on it and challenged you to a genuine debate BASED UPON the allegation of YOUR STATEMENT.
And you have run from his challenge.

You are again claiming the EXACT OPPOSITE of reality to be true.

Keen challenged YOU, in order to “scrutinise” the credibility of YOUR position.
And you ducked out immediately.

CONCLUSION: again it looks like you have psychological issues if you genuinely think anyone believes your complete reversal of what just occurred.

Bro the thread is apparently "on the resettlement issue" but what Keen is asking me about has nothing to do with resettlement, because obviously I don't think resettlement happened. This is why I think you guys are deranged.

Seriously?!?!?

You seriously think that?

Bro, he’s asking you to explain where YOU believe ‘they’ went.
That’s OBVIOUSLY NOT asking you to discuss “resettlement”.

You really didn’t understand that?
I’m genuinely amazed if you really couldn’t comprehend such a simple thing.

I assume Keen is anticipating you will say ‘they’ went into the ground at specific places.
And I also assume he has questions prepared for this reply from you.

If you as a long-time holocaust believer, defender and debater, genuinely did NOT understand this, then as someone interested in human psychology I suggest YOUR response above has only two explanations.
And I think these apply to ANYONE and EVERYONE who has become familiar with the actual details of the holocaust narrative yet continue to deny the blatant flaws and physical impoosibilities that form the core of its story.
The two explanations are these.
Your avoidance in order to defend the racist, anti-German, atrocity propaganda of the mass-gassing ‘holocaust’ allegation, is derived from either:
a.) limited intellectual capacity (stupid)
or
b.) devious debating tactic (dishonest).

(Both related to psychology (your preferred subject). )

It usually is a combination of both a.) and b.)
In your case, I don’t think a.) applies, so conclude it is b.).

[Nessie]

Wow!
No, that’s clearly not what is happening.

You made a statement.
Keen called you on it and challenged you to a genuine debate BASED UPON the allegation of YOUR STATEMENT.
And you have run from his challenge.

You are again claiming the EXACT OPPOSITE of reality to be true.

Keen challenged YOU, in order to “scrutinise” the credibility of YOUR position.
And you ducked out immediately.

CONCLUSION: again it looks like you have psychological issues if you genuinely think anyone believes your complete reversal of what just occurred.

Bro the thread is apparently "on the resettlement issue" but what Keen is asking me about has nothing to do with resettlement, because obviously I don't think resettlement happened. This is why I think you guys are deranged.

Seriously?!?!?

You seriously think that?

Bro, he’s asking you to explain where YOU believe ‘they’ went.

That is a question he knows how bombsaway will answer.

That’s OBVIOUSLY NOT asking you to discuss “resettlement”.

Which means you are accidentally revealing the true intent Keen has, which is to discuss mass graves, not resettlement.

You really didn’t understand that?
I’m genuinely amazed if you really couldn’t comprehend such a simple thing.

I assume Keen is anticipating you will say ‘they’ went into the ground at specific places.

Obviously, and that will then result in a series of questions from Keen about the mass graves.

And I also assume he has questions prepared for this reply from you.

If you as a long-time holocaust believer, defender and debater, genuinely did NOT understand this, then as someone interested in human psychology I suggest YOUR response above has only two explanations.
And I think these apply to ANYONE and EVERYONE who has become familiar with the actual details of the holocaust narrative yet continue to deny the blatant flaws and physical impoosibilities that form the core of its story.
The two explanations are these.
Your avoidance in order to defend the racist, anti-German, atrocity propaganda of the mass-gassing ‘holocaust’ allegation, is derived from either:
a.) limited intellectual capacity (stupid)
or
b.) devious debating tactic (dishonest).

(Both related to psychology (your preferred subject). )

It usually is a combination of both a.) and b.)
In your case, I don’t think a.) applies, so conclude it is b.).

You are showing limited understanding of Keen's supposed debates and deferring back to your preferred tactic of questioning the intellect of your opponent.

Keen has already done enough to prove he is not interested in a genuine debate. He wants to control and for people to answer his questions only.