The Keen vs Confused jew debate

[bombsaway]

This thread jack really should stop bombs, and we should really move this to a 6,000,000 thread.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, preferably in a new thread, but, didn't you use Hilberg saying 6,000,000 in an argument the other day? I mean, just a few weeks ago even.

Now it is 'Hilberg used a lower number'.

So far as how many jews died in the shoah, I'm not done counting, hell, I still haven't stopped finding Hungarian jews.

Nope, I never would have said that, and if I did, it was a mistake, because I know Hilberg used a lower number.

This "diversion" is relevant to the OP's challenged but sure, respond in another thread.

*1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; “You shall return minus six million” is - JEWISH PROPHECY - that has allegedly been fulfilled via the “jewish holocaust of WWII” - ??

*2 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The persecution and extermination of 6 million jews was repeatedly mentioned in the media for years - PRIOR TO WORLD WAR II - ??

These are problematic questions and I'm telling you guys why.

[Stubble]

New thread;

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=412

Again, my apologies for engaging in the derailment, I didn't expect this tangent to travel as far as it did or to unmoore the thread to the degree that it did. I expected a slight drift of maybe a half a dozen posts, tops. It shows no sign of stopping or slowing however, so, this train will be stopping at another station.

[Keen]

Again, my apologies for engaging in the derailment

No worries, Cj is afraid to debate anyway.

He knows that by answering the "60 simple questions that expose the holocaust archaeology hoax" he defeats himself from the get go.

[Keen]

Looking at the first 3 questions...

OK, let's look at them:

*1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; “You shall return minus six million” is - JEWISH PROPHECY - that has allegedly been fulfilled via the “jewish holocaust of WWII” - ??

*2 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The persecution and extermination of 6 million jews was repeatedly mentioned in the media for years - PRIOR TO WORLD WAR II - ??

*3 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; In 1933 - JEWS DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY - ??

https://thisisaboutscience.com/

[Keen]

IMO Keen vs Nessie is the more compelling match-up.

It's on.

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=421

[Keen]

This is my Super Bowl.

Just imagine if a super bowl bound team were so afraid of getting their asses kicked that they didn't even show up for the big game. Imagine how disgusted people would be in all the players on that team, especially after all the members of the team had been talking shit for days prior to chickening out and cravenly refusing to play.

[Keen]

After a lengthy delay, the debate will now get started as CJ and I establish "a well organized starting point" and "a base level of understanding" by answering the following questions:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=11213#p11213

But I did notice that the number of questions (which were taken directly from the http://thisisaboutscience.com/ website, is now 66. So we will answer all "66 simple questions that expose the holocaust archaeology hoax"

PART ONE:

*1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; “You shall return minus six million” is - JEWISH PROPHECY - that has allegedly been fulfilled via the “jewish holocaust of WWII” - ??

My answer is: True.

CJ's answer is: ??

As a reminder (from the OP):

The debate centers around how many of the 100 fraudulently alleged / insinuated - mass graves / cremation pits - of Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II - that CJ can conclusively prove have been scientifically proven to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of at least 21 people.

I say he can't prove even one.

[Keen]

As a boost to CJ's confidence, I asked chat gpt the following:

Q: Of the 100 fraudulently alleged / insinuated - mass graves / cremation pits - of Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II, how many have been conclusively proven to contain the remains of at least 21 people?

A: The mass graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor, and Treblinka II have been extensively investigated by archaeologists and forensic experts, and the evidence overwhelmingly supports the existence of large-scale burial and cremation sites at each location.

Belzec

Excavations between 1997 and 2000 led by Professor Andrzej Kola identified 33 mass graves.

Soil core samples revealed meters-thick layers of human ashes, charred remains, and unburned bones.

One trench alone contained a 3-meter-thick layer of human ash, indicating the remains of hundreds, if not thousands, of individuals.

Sobibor

Archaeological teams uncovered mass graves and cremation pits containing human remains and artifacts.

Excavations revealed burned bones and ash layers, consistent with mass cremation practices.

Treblinka II

Though much of the site was destroyed by the Nazis, forensic surveys have identified mass burial areas and cremation pits.

Ground-penetrating radar and soil analysis confirmed the presence of large quantities of human remains, though exact counts are difficult due to the cremation process.

Chelmno and Ponary

At Chelmno, remains have been found in burial pits and cremation sites used during the camp’s operation.

Ponary, used primarily for mass shootings, has documented mass graves containing the remains of thousands of victims.

In short, multiple graves at these sites have been conclusively proven to contain the remains of far more than 21 individuals—often numbering in the hundreds or thousands. The notion that only a handful of remains have been found is not supported by credible archaeological or forensic evidence2.

[Keen]

Here's another confidence booster for you CJ:

Nessie:

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

The geophysical survey work has identified rectangular pits with straight edges and ramps at TII.

The sheer volume of evidence for mass graves at TII... Mass graves are proven.

By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

I can point to them in the ground.

There are 11 at Treblinka II:

G32, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53 & 54.

https://vnnforum.com/attachment.php?att ... 4614037jpg.

[Keen]

And let's add some statements of fact about mass graves that CJ alleged earlier:

...Multiple archaeological studies using ground-penetrating radar, core sampling, and forensic documentation have confirmed thousands of kilograms of human remains, ash pits, mass graves, and cremation sites across all five camps.

In Belzec alone, 33 mass graves were documented with ash layers up to 5 meters thick. Bone fragments, teeth, fatty tissue residue. Remains estimated to represent hundreds of thousands of individuals. No attempt was made to fully exhume or count complete skeletons — that wasn’t the goal.

In Treblinka II, Dr. Caroline Sturdy Colls found over a dozen grave shafts identified with GPR. Bone fragments, burned tissue, and human remains confirmed on-site. Some remains were directly exposed in core samples or accidental surface erosion.

There were mass graves confirmed in Sobibor. Thousands of human bone fragments, ash, and teeth recovered. One 2014 excavation found over 50kg of human bones in a single pit.

...At some sites, archaeologists found a handful of intact or partially preserved skeletons in areas that had not yet been cremated.

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=10738#p10738

Now let's return to the goal of establishing "a well organized starting point" and "a base level of understanding":

*1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; “You shall return minus six million” is - JEWISH PROPHECY - that has allegedly been fulfilled via the “jewish holocaust of WWII” - ??

Keen's answer is: True.

CJ's answer is: ??

[ConfusedJew]

PART ONE:

*1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; “You shall return minus six million” is - JEWISH PROPHECY - that has allegedly been fulfilled via the “jewish holocaust of WWII” - ??

My answer is: True.

CJ's answer is: ??

As a reminder (from the OP):

I'm not going to play this stupid game but the phrase "You shall return minus six million" cannot be found any Jewish scripture prophecy or ancient rabbinic teaching.

“You shall return” appears in Deuteronomy 30:3 where God promises that the Jewish people will return to their land after exile however nothing in that passage does it mention the disappearance of people, let along six million.

Deuteronomy 30:3 (Hebrew and English)
Hebrew (partial verse):
וְשָׁב ה׳ אֱלֹהֶיךָ אֶת שְׁבוּתְךָ וְרִחֲמֶךָ, וְשָׁב וְקִבֶּצְךָ מִכָּל-הָעַמִּים...

English (JPS translation):
“Then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and take you back in love. He will bring you together again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you.”

I'm not going to entertain anything beyond this or even respond in this thread anymore.

[Keen]

I'm not going to entertain anything beyond this or even respond in this thread anymore.

Look at the lying coward run away!



As soon as you ask a jew to establish "a well organized starting point" and "a base level of understanding" for a debate, they tuck tail and run for the hills!



And the confused self chosen one is gone.

Just imagine, a guy who alleges the following on a debate forum:

Confused jew:

Multiple archaeological studies using ground-penetrating radar, core sampling, and forensic documentation have confirmed thousands of kilograms of human remains, ash pits, mass graves, and cremation sites across all five camps.

In Belzec alone, 33 mass graves were documented with ash layers up to 5 meters thick. Bone fragments, teeth, fatty tissue residue. Remains estimated to represent hundreds of thousands of individuals. No attempt was made to fully exhume or count complete skeletons — that wasn’t the goal.

In Treblinka II, Dr. Caroline Sturdy Colls found over a dozen grave shafts identified with GPR. Bone fragments, burned tissue, and human remains confirmed on-site. Some remains were directly exposed in core samples or accidental surface erosion.

There were mass graves confirmed in Sobibor. Thousands of human bone fragments, ash, and teeth recovered. One 2014 excavation found over 50kg of human bones in a single pit.

At some sites, archaeologists found a handful of intact or partially preserved skeletons in areas that had not yet been cremated.

Cravenly refuses to debate - cravenly refuses to even try to substantiate just a tiny fraction of his allegations.

Oh well, it's just further proof that the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the one hundred graves / cremation pits in question at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II, in which verified human remains have been tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, is THIS SOBIBOR GRAVE:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11 ... 391739.jpg

[Keen]

Very confused jew:

There were mass graves confirmed in Sobibor. Thousands of human bone fragments, ash, and teeth recovered.

Really? Well then:

4 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 24 alleged Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question: _?_.



Run Forrest - RUN!

[Keen]

I'm not going to entertain anything beyond this or even respond in this thread anymore.

[Keen]

I'm not going to play this stupid game

What's wrong Confused jew - don't you get paid when you get played?

Here's Confused jew when things aren't going too well for him at the hasbara office: