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bombsaway wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:45 am Where does Blobel specify how much fuel was used - you say a "few gallons of diesel"
He doesn't, of course. He specifies almost nothing at all about the procedure, which is suspicious.

The qualitative description given in his June 18 affidavit is that it was "material needed to burn the bodies", and that "the bodies were drenched/covered with fuel/inflammable material". If we take this at its most favorable, we could suppose that the pit was filled with gas such that the bodies were actually immersed in it. Putting aside whether this is a reasonable use of fuel during wartime, would it actually work for cremation?
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Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:45 am
bombsaway wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:45 am Where does Blobel specify how much fuel was used - you say a "few gallons of diesel"

He doesn't, of course. He specifies almost nothing at all about the procedure, which is suspicious.

The qualitative description given in his June 18 affidavit is that it was "material needed to burn the bodies", and that "the bodies were drenched/covered with fuel/inflammable material". If we take this at its most favorable, we could suppose that the pit was filled with gas such that the bodies were actually immersed in it. Putting aside whether this is a reasonable use of fuel during wartime, would it actually work for cremation?
He does not specify that initial fuel was the only fuel used.

Stubble, how can you test something like this? Maybe you can test the straw man version, oh god.

This is just madness. One guy thinks it's some great mark against me when I call his acquaintance a friend, these other guys are placing imaginary bets on my ethnicity. Meanwhile the fate of the world is at stake.
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Bombsaway, you know what amazes me the most, I know you are being 'serious'.

:clown:

2 jerry cans, of diesel. Burned for 2 days straight.

It's ok though, at Treblinka they didn't even waste the diesel. They used the women as kindling.

And at Auschwitz, they just loaded some straw and newspaper in the Kremas, no coal required, self burning bodies.

You can't find any of 'em because they were all Aktion 1005'd.

It's the perfect crime, except one thing, we know they killed 6,000,000 jews because they are missing.

We might not have mass graves, the testimony might not make sense, and a lot of stuff might be physically impossible (like cremations of >1,000,000 people without changing any refractory brick at Auschwitz Birkenau), but, that doesn't matter, because we knew the Germans had killed 6,000,000 jews even before Hitler took power...

'Remember Us'...
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were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:45 am
2 jerry cans, of diesel. Burned for 2 days straight.
Your post is about Blobel right? Did he mention this?
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I'll see if I can find him saying it. It's always 2 cans though, we've all seen this movie, so many times. What Bombsaway, you think they opened the dump valve on a truck and filled the pit to the brim.

How you gonna light that?..
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Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:50 am I'll see if I can find him saying it. It's always 2 cans though, we've all seen this movie, so many times. What Bombsaway, you think they opened the dump valve on a truck and filled the pit to the brim.

How you gonna light that?..
Like I said, he never even stated the initial fuel was the only fuel used. This is madness, Stubble.
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Didn't state they went up there with fuel in a container or a fire hose and poured it on an open flame neither, but, if they had, thered be some medical reports, of that I can assure you.

Use your damn head Bombsaway. Nobody 'added liquid fuel' to the fire.

What, they waited till it went out over and over again for 48 hours and he failed to mention that part?
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Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:01 am Didn't state they went up there with fuel in a container or a fire hose and poured it on an open flame neither, but, if they had, thered be some medical reports, of that I can assure you.

Use your damn head Bombsaway. Nobody 'added liquid fuel' to the fire.

What, they waited till it went out over and over again for 48 hours and he failed to mention that part?
There would have been medical reports for the Jewish sk squirting gas on the fire. Necessarily?

Blobel.used a flamethrower at chelmno btw, that's documented and testified to
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Has anyone here tried lighting diesel fuel by hand?
Of the four million jews under German control, six million died and five million survived!
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You are legit going to stand there and try to defend this testimony?

This reminds me of you telling me the dead at Treblinka II could be 'buried under the trees' and thus not surveyed with GPR.

On the collaborative witness maps, 3 of them so far, they call out 4 pits. What, they forgot to mark all the other grave space outside the 'extermination area' or to mention going outside the fence to bring the bodies back to the pyres?

I might be incredulous, but you must be unscrupulous.

Any seed of doubt you can plant you run around with like Johnny appleseed Bombsaway.

'They wouldn't have had medical reports for sonderkommando'...That's as may be, but, I don't think they would have let them get burned up with the fuel trying to put it on smoldering pits of dead bodies neither. At least not over and over again...
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borjastick wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:10 am Has anyone here tried lighting diesel fuel by hand?
Yes, I use diesel in my burn barrels.
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You cannot work out how the pyres were possible. Therefore, they did not happen.

My proposal would be for so-called revisionists to be trained in the skills needed to conduct a historical/criminal investigation, with a course in logic thrown in.
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Nessie wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:31 am You cannot work out how the pyres were possible. Therefore, they did not happen.

My proposal would be for so-called revisionists to be trained in the skills needed to conduct a historical/criminal investigation, with a course in logic thrown in.
Nessie, this isn't a pyre. It's a pit a guy threw some fuel in that burned for 2 days.

I'm surprised it wasn't '8 crazy nights'
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bombsaway wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:19 pm…Witnesses can also misspeak. You guys are batty
bombsaway wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:07 am This is just madness. One guy thinks it's some great mark against me when I call his acquaintance a friend…
Erm… No, you still haven’t understood. The point was not that you made a fairly innocent and insignificant false assumption. It was that this demonstrated you have an inability to correctly process and comprehend fairly simple information. An inability that you were unaware of and — now that it has been shown to you — are in D E N I A L of.

Do you understand THIS observation by Charles Darwin: “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge”?

RELEVANCE: You have shown that you don’t understand numerous points that others here are patiently explaining to you. Yet remarkably, you think your understanding is superior to theirs. PLUS you have concluded that they are “batty” and suffering from a “madness”.

Do you see?

You are suffering from Dunning-Kruger syndrome.
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Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:33 am
Nessie wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:31 am You cannot work out how the pyres were possible. Therefore, they did not happen.

My proposal would be for so-called revisionists to be trained in the skills needed to conduct a historical/criminal investigation, with a course in logic thrown in.
Nessie, this isn't a pyre. It's a pit a guy threw some fuel in that burned for 2 days.

I'm surprised it wasn't '8 crazy nights'
Your proposal is that your incredulity should be considered as having evidential value, and if you cannot work out how something was possible, that is evidence to prove it did not happen.

What makes you so important, that your incredulity should be considered as proof?
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